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Calif Bill February 27th 05 04:16 AM

Save Yourself, Save a Jew?
 
Get your med's adjusted.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...[i]
Save A Jew, Save Yourself!

Sixty-five million Evangelicals can't be wrong.

By Mark Ames

IF YOU'RE A JEW, put the paper down now, run to your door and lock it.
If some beaming Ned Flanders type with a big helpful smile on his face
rings your doorbell and says, "Is there a Jew in this house I can hug?"
advise him to vacate the premises immediately, or you will sic upon him
Baal, your starving Rhodesian Ridgeback.

Whatever you do, do not invite the Christian Zionist into your house.
Because as much as he claims to love you and all of your fellow
tribesmen, it's a different kind of love than you might expect. More
like the love that the Manson Family had for Sharon Tate and her party
guests.

Ned and about 65 million other fellow American Evangelical cultists love
Jews for one simple reason: They hope to bundle every [Jew] up,
air-freight them to the West Bank and East Jerusalem (once those areas
have been cleansed of Muslims), and use the Jews as bait to bring upon
the Rapture, as kindling in the Apocalypse, the final battle that will
bring Jesus back to Earth. None of this can happen until every last Jew
is penned into the occupied territories-and the Jews won't get there
unless the far-right runs Israel and America. Currently 65 million
American cultists are using everything in their power, from prayer to
politics, to make this Helter Skelter scenario come true.

Under this Evangelical "end of days" scenario, there's some good news
and some bad news, depending on which cult you belong to.

First, the good news: The Rapture be bery-bery-good to Evangelical
Christians. When that day arrives, they all get sucked up to heaven-
body, clothes, mobile phones and all. Here is a stunning description of
the Rapture in Evangelical cult leader Michael D. Evans' new bestseller,
The American Prophecies (Warner Faith Books, $18.95):

magine for a moment sixty-five million Americans vanishing in the
twinkling of an eye-people flying planes, driving cars, steering ships,
driving trains and subways, manning nuclear power stations and nuclear
silos, navigating submarines filled with nuclear missiles, and so on.
Realize, also, if that happened today, it would take our president.]


If you sense that Evans actually enjoys the thought of nuclear chaos for
those of us left behind, you're absolutely right. Here is his "Dear
Santa" holocaust wish-list, in gradated order: "Yes, this is my hope.
Not that the terrorists get us, nor even that we side with Israel in the
final battle (though I would greatly prefer that to option one!), but
that God gets us—all of us."

Note that Evans, like all Evangelicals, wouldn't mind it if terrorists
got us—it's just that he prefers that God get us first. All of us.

Nuclear weapons and President George W. Bush—and Jews—are the only
earthly things that Evans and his fellow Evangelical cultists genuinely
love. The nukes above all. More than once Evans quotes the lines in
Zechariah that Evangelicals believe prophesy a nuclear holocaust: "Their
flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet/Their eyes shall
dissolve in their sockets/And their tongues shall dissolve in their
mouths." (Zechariah 14:12)

A few years after the Rapture comes the Apocalypse. This is the bad-news
part of the Evangelical equation, for some people anyway—the part of the
buddy flick where the one buddy says to the other, "Sorry friend, it was
either you or me."

The funny thing about The American Prophecies is that while Evans quotes
extensively from Zechariah, he leaves out the one passage that every
Evangelical secretly prays for:

And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith Jehovah, two
parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left
therein. And I will bring the third part into the fire, and will refine
them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried.
(Zechariah 13:8, 9)

In other words, two-thirds of the world's Jews, now crammed into the
dusty West Bank, go to the woodchipper, and the surviving third (or
perhaps as few as 144,000, depending on how you read your Bible) gets
forcibly converted to Evangelical Christianity. Number nine, number nine…

This is why Jews should beware. Michael Evans and the 23 percent of the
American population he represents need a Greater Israel in order to get
sucked up into God's DustBuster. But to get to the "end of days," they
need the Jews' cooperation. Which is probably why Evans left this part
of the script out of his book. Today, Evangelicals' strategy is
something like this: "Hey, maybe we've been scaring the Jews away all
these years, with pogroms and quotas and stuff. Maybe if we act all
nice, they'll come out from under the bed and go to Judea and Samara.
Heeeeere Jew-ie Jew-ie. Nice Jewie!"....



More... http://www.nypress.com/17/41/news&columns/feature.cfm



The idiot Bush, of course, is an Evangelical.




Doug Kanter February 27th 05 01:05 PM

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Get your med's adjusted.


He's just pointing out what's walking among us, disguised as normal, Billy
boy. Question: Can you call people wackos if they represent more than "X"
percent of the population?



Tuuk February 27th 05 01:05 PM

krause

you dumb german,, if it isn't Bush, if it isn't jews, it is those smarter
than you,, it is always someone you hate. Except for your puppets here who
keep egging you on.

No wonder your own children left you krause, just as you said yourself. No
wonder your first two wives left you, and your newest one is 20 years your
junior. No wonder your old lady had to be shipped to the east no wait the
west coast of florida to be stuffed as far away as possible.

krause, you are not the brightest star in the sky are ya,,,,,











"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...[i]
Save A Jew, Save Yourself!

Sixty-five million Evangelicals can't be wrong.

By Mark Ames

IF YOU'RE A JEW, put the paper down now, run to your door and lock it. If
some beaming Ned Flanders type with a big helpful smile on his face rings
your doorbell and says, "Is there a Jew in this house I can hug?" advise
him to vacate the premises immediately, or you will sic upon him Baal,
your starving Rhodesian Ridgeback.

Whatever you do, do not invite the Christian Zionist into your house.
Because as much as he claims to love you and all of your fellow tribesmen,
it's a different kind of love than you might expect. More like the love
that the Manson Family had for Sharon Tate and her party guests.

Ned and about 65 million other fellow American Evangelical cultists love
Jews for one simple reason: They hope to bundle every [Jew] up,
air-freight them to the West Bank and East Jerusalem (once those areas
have been cleansed of Muslims), and use the Jews as bait to bring upon the
Rapture, as kindling in the Apocalypse, the final battle that will bring
Jesus back to Earth. None of this can happen until every last Jew is
penned into the occupied territories-and the Jews won't get there unless
the far-right runs Israel and America. Currently 65 million American
cultists are using everything in their power, from prayer to politics, to
make this Helter Skelter scenario come true.

Under this Evangelical "end of days" scenario, there's some good news and
some bad news, depending on which cult you belong to.

First, the good news: The Rapture be bery-bery-good to Evangelical
Christians. When that day arrives, they all get sucked up to heaven- body,
clothes, mobile phones and all. Here is a stunning description of the
Rapture in Evangelical cult leader Michael D. Evans' new bestseller, The
American Prophecies (Warner Faith Books, $18.95):

magine for a moment sixty-five million Americans vanishing in the
twinkling of an eye-people flying planes, driving cars, steering ships,
driving trains and subways, manning nuclear power stations and nuclear
silos, navigating submarines filled with nuclear missiles, and so on.
Realize, also, if that happened today, it would take our president.]


If you sense that Evans actually enjoys the thought of nuclear chaos for
those of us left behind, you're absolutely right. Here is his "Dear Santa"
holocaust wish-list, in gradated order: "Yes, this is my hope. Not that
the terrorists get us, nor even that we side with Israel in the final
battle (though I would greatly prefer that to option one!), but that God
gets us—all of us."

Note that Evans, like all Evangelicals, wouldn't mind it if terrorists got
us—it's just that he prefers that God get us first. All of us.

Nuclear weapons and President George W. Bush—and Jews—are the only earthly
things that Evans and his fellow Evangelical cultists genuinely love. The
nukes above all. More than once Evans quotes the lines in Zechariah that
Evangelicals believe prophesy a nuclear holocaust: "Their flesh shall
dissolve while they stand on their feet/Their eyes shall dissolve in their
sockets/And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths." (Zechariah
14:12)

A few years after the Rapture comes the Apocalypse. This is the bad-news
part of the Evangelical equation, for some people anyway—the part of the
buddy flick where the one buddy says to the other, "Sorry friend, it was
either you or me."

The funny thing about The American Prophecies is that while Evans quotes
extensively from Zechariah, he leaves out the one passage that every
Evangelical secretly prays for:

And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith Jehovah, two parts
therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And
I will bring the third part into the fire, and will refine them as silver
is refined, and will try them as gold is tried. (Zechariah 13:8, 9)

In other words, two-thirds of the world's Jews, now crammed into the dusty
West Bank, go to the woodchipper, and the surviving third (or perhaps as
few as 144,000, depending on how you read your Bible) gets forcibly
converted to Evangelical Christianity. Number nine, number nine…

This is why Jews should beware. Michael Evans and the 23 percent of the
American population he represents need a Greater Israel in order to get
sucked up into God's DustBuster. But to get to the "end of days," they
need the Jews' cooperation. Which is probably why Evans left this part of
the script out of his book. Today, Evangelicals' strategy is something
like this: "Hey, maybe we've been scaring the Jews away all these years,
with pogroms and quotas and stuff. Maybe if we act all nice, they'll come
out from under the bed and go to Judea and Samara. Heeeeere Jew-ie Jew-ie.
Nice Jewie!"....



More... http://www.nypress.com/17/41/news&columns/feature.cfm



The idiot Bush, of course, is an Evangelical.




Calif Bill February 27th 05 07:22 PM

Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Get your med's adjusted.


He's just pointing out what's walking among us, disguised as normal, Billy
boy. Question: Can you call people wackos if they represent more than "X"
percent of the population?





Calif Bill February 27th 05 07:23 PM

Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it is everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

Get your med's adjusted.



He's just pointing out what's walking among us, disguised as normal,

Billy
boy. Question: Can you call people wackos if they represent more than

"X"
percent of the population?



Billyboy either doesn't want to admit or won't recognize the fact that
tens of millions of people on his side of the political fence believe
that kind of religious crapola, and among their number is one George W.
Bush.




Doug Kanter February 28th 05 03:10 AM

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.


Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their hallucinations?



Doug Kanter February 28th 05 03:11 AM

Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.


Let me confirm this: You're saying there are 65 million people who believe
this rapture bull****, and that's OK with you?



thunder February 28th 05 03:24 AM

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 03:11:15 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.


Let me confirm this: You're saying there are 65 million people who believe
this rapture bull****, and that's OK with you?


65 million? Damn, I thought we were winning the war on drugs.


Calif Bill February 28th 05 05:14 AM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.


Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of

loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions of loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be competant?



Calif Bill February 28th 05 05:16 AM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.


Let me confirm this: You're saying there are 65 million people who believe
this rapture bull****, and that's OK with you?



As I said 65 million people? You better get a reality check also.



Doug Kanter February 28th 05 12:22 PM


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.


Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of

loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



DSK February 28th 05 12:25 PM

Calif Bill" wrote ...
Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.



Doug Kanter wrote:
Let me confirm this: You're saying there are 65 million people who believe
this rapture bull****, and that's OK with you?


Of course... he apparently believes it too, despite his claims of being
a "moderate Democrat."

DSK


Doug Kanter February 28th 05 12:26 PM


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.


Let me confirm this: You're saying there are 65 million people who
believe
this rapture bull****, and that's OK with you?



As I said 65 million people? You better get a reality check also.



You're a slippery devil. It's not worth my time to even guess at the actual
number, or read backward. The issue is THE BELIEF these people hold, and
that they are willing to manipulate politics to support that belief. Basing
your voting on belief in a war or bad grammar is one thing. Basing it on
religion puts you in the category of "get measured for a straightjacket".



DSK February 28th 05 12:27 PM

Calif Bill wrote:
Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not the
President, as they did not vote for him?


Back in the '90s there were millions of people who insisted that Clinton
was not *their* President. That is fact.

I have not heard anybody say that Bush isn't their President... is this
the new buzzword from hate-spew radio?

DSK


John H February 28th 05 01:06 PM

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 03:10:39 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.


Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their hallucinations?


I sure hope there aren't millions running around who believe that 65 millions
are running around believing this rapture nonsense. Then we'd *really* have a
problem!

It's bad enough there are a few in rec.boats who seem to believe in the 65
million.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H February 28th 05 01:38 PM

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:22:03 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of

loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.


Just as pertinent to anything, however!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H February 28th 05 01:39 PM

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:26:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.

Let me confirm this: You're saying there are 65 million people who
believe
this rapture bull****, and that's OK with you?



As I said 65 million people? You better get a reality check also.



You're a slippery devil. It's not worth my time to even guess at the actual
number, or read backward. The issue is THE BELIEF these people hold, and
that they are willing to manipulate politics to support that belief. Basing
your voting on belief in a war or bad grammar is one thing. Basing it on
religion puts you in the category of "get measured for a straightjacket".


The fact that you believe that 65 million believe this is what's scary!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H February 28th 05 01:41 PM

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:27:17 -0500, DSK wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not the
President, as they did not vote for him?


Back in the '90s there were millions of people who insisted that Clinton
was not *their* President. That is fact.

I have not heard anybody say that Bush isn't their President... is this
the new buzzword from hate-spew radio?

DSK


There 've been some of the less enlightened on this NG who have, in fact, stated
just that!
John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Doug Kanter February 28th 05 02:30 PM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:22:03 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.


Just as pertinent to anything, however!


Go get more coffee, John. Pertinent to anything? Anything???



Doug Kanter February 28th 05 02:31 PM


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not the
President, as they did not vote for him?


Back in the '90s there were millions of people who insisted that Clinton
was not *their* President. That is fact.

I have not heard anybody say that Bush isn't their President... is this
the new buzzword from hate-spew radio?

DSK


Actually, I say it all the time, since it is true.



Doug Kanter February 28th 05 02:33 PM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:26:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.

Let me confirm this: You're saying there are 65 million people who
believe
this rapture bull****, and that's OK with you?



As I said 65 million people? You better get a reality check also.



You're a slippery devil. It's not worth my time to even guess at the
actual
number, or read backward. The issue is THE BELIEF these people hold, and
that they are willing to manipulate politics to support that belief.
Basing
your voting on belief in a war or bad grammar is one thing. Basing it on
religion puts you in the category of "get measured for a straightjacket".


The fact that you believe that 65 million believe this is what's scary!


The numbers don't matter. You know that. If they have the president's ear,
it's a problem. We already meddle too much in the Middle East because of
natural resources and egotistical reasons. Adding a wacko religion to our
motives is simply not acceptable.



DSK February 28th 05 03:43 PM

I have not heard anybody say that Bush isn't their President... is this
the new buzzword from hate-spew radio?



Doug Kanter wrote:
Actually, I say it all the time


I stand corrected then

... since it is true.


While it pains me to tell you this... George W. Bush Jr is indeed your
President... and mine... I hope the damage is only temporary.

DSK


John H February 28th 05 03:57 PM

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:33:17 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:26:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.

Let me confirm this: You're saying there are 65 million people who
believe
this rapture bull****, and that's OK with you?



As I said 65 million people? You better get a reality check also.



You're a slippery devil. It's not worth my time to even guess at the
actual
number, or read backward. The issue is THE BELIEF these people hold, and
that they are willing to manipulate politics to support that belief.
Basing
your voting on belief in a war or bad grammar is one thing. Basing it on
religion puts you in the category of "get measured for a straightjacket".


The fact that you believe that 65 million believe this is what's scary!


The numbers don't matter. You know that. If they have the president's ear,
it's a problem. We already meddle too much in the Middle East because of
natural resources and egotistical reasons. Adding a wacko religion to our
motives is simply not acceptable.


I'm not the one who is tossing the 65 million number around as though it is
gospel! Seems to me you've been confirming the hell out of that number!!!!

Now, if you *believe* that Bush is being influenced by these folks in such a way
that he will soon start lobbing nukes around the world so he can enjoy a
'rapture', then I think you should invest in a bomb shelter, get in it, and stay
off your computer. Someone is probably recording everything you say.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H February 28th 05 03:58 PM

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:30:45 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:22:03 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.


Just as pertinent to anything, however!


Go get more coffee, John. Pertinent to anything? Anything???


Yeah, anything.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Doug Kanter February 28th 05 04:16 PM


"DSK" wrote in message
...
I have not heard anybody say that Bush isn't their President... is this
the new buzzword from hate-spew radio?



Doug Kanter wrote:
Actually, I say it all the time


I stand corrected then

... since it is true.


While it pains me to tell you this... George W. Bush Jr is indeed your
President... and mine... I hope the damage is only temporary.

DSK


Nah...not really. If Bush-1 had been reelected, I could've been comfortable
with him even if I disagreed with some of his ideas. But, when a politician
steps over a certain line, I disown them. If I was in the military, GWB came
to my base for a photo op, and my CO said "We need you to shake hands with
him for the cameras", I'd choose latrine duty or prison if that was the
penalty for refusing to obey the order.



DSK February 28th 05 04:23 PM

Doug Kanter wrote:
Nah...not really. If Bush-1 had been reelected, I could've been comfortable
with him even if I disagreed with some of his ideas. But, when a politician
steps over a certain line, I disown them.


Maybe so, but that doesn't change the facts on the ground. It didn't
change anything for the Clinton-haters.

Just think, if the National & American Leagues hadn't been so squeamish
about letting a Jesus-babbling ex-drunk be Commissioner of Baseball, we
wouldn't have to suffer GWB as President of the whole country.

DSK


Calif Bill February 28th 05 09:42 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

Calif Bill" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.

Let me confirm this: You're saying there are 65 million people who
believe
this rapture bull****, and that's OK with you?



As I said 65 million people? You better get a reality check also.




You're a slippery devil. It's not worth my time to even guess at the

actual
number, or read backward. The issue is THE BELIEF these people hold, and
that they are willing to manipulate politics to support that belief.

Basing
your voting on belief in a war or bad grammar is one thing. Basing it on
religion puts you in the category of "get measured for a

straightjacket".




Please. You're confusing Calif Bile.


Yup, I am confused. first you people state 65 million, then you state
something else. Damn, just like jimcomma. Can not keep the debate
straight.



Calif Bill February 28th 05 09:48 PM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of

loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not

the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies waiting the
rapture.



Calif Bill February 28th 05 09:51 PM


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill" wrote ...
Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.



Doug Kanter wrote:
Let me confirm this: You're saying there are 65 million people who

believe
this rapture bull****, and that's OK with you?


Of course... he apparently believes it too, despite his claims of being
a "moderate Democrat."

DSK


I am a moderate democrat and voted Libertarian in the last election. Could
not stand Kerry. As to my religion, do not believe in the Rapture and just
believe there is something up there. Look at the world and Universe and
tell me where it came from.



Doug Kanter February 28th 05 09:53 PM


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not

the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies waiting the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Calif Bill February 28th 05 10:03 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not

the
President, as they did not vote for him?



Back in the '90s there were millions of people who insisted that Clinton
was not *their* President. That is fact.

I have not heard anybody say that Bush isn't their President... is this
the new buzzword from hate-spew radio?

DSK



You mean the, not their.

Bush is the president, but he's not my president.


My point made.



Calif Bill March 1st 05 04:11 AM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their

hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not

the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be

competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies waiting the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



Calif Bill March 1st 05 04:12 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.

Let me confirm this: You're saying there are 65 million people who
believe
this rapture bull****, and that's OK with you?



As I said 65 million people? You better get a reality check also.




You're a slippery devil. It's not worth my time to even guess at the


actual

number, or read backward. The issue is THE BELIEF these people hold,

and
that they are willing to manipulate politics to support that belief.


Basing

your voting on belief in a war or bad grammar is one thing. Basing it

on
religion puts you in the category of "get measured for a


straightjacket".



Please. You're confusing Calif Bile.



Yup, I am confused. first you people state 65 million, then you state
something else. Damn, just like jimcomma. Can not keep the debate
straight.



How many evangelicals who believe the crap under discussion do you think
there are, Bill?


I do not know or care. But you and yours are the ones stating 65 mm. Up to
you to defend your position!



Calif Bill March 1st 05 04:13 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..

Calif Bill" wrote ...
Yeah. 65 million people. You better get a reality check also.

Doug Kanter wrote:

Let me confirm this: You're saying there are 65 million people who


believe

this rapture bull****, and that's OK with you?


Of course... he apparently believes it too, despite his claims of being
a "moderate Democrat."

DSK



I am a moderate democrat


Ha! You're way out there on the right.



Only to one who is so out of touch to the way left.



John H March 1st 05 01:32 PM

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:11:05 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their

hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be

competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies waiting the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?


I think, in their eyes, nothing matters except the tone of the post. If it's
anti-Bush, it's good.

When will they ever learn... when will they ever learn?


Doug Kanter March 1st 05 02:52 PM


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it
is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their

hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is
not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be

competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies waiting the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



1) Nobody can accurately determine the number.
2) If there were just eleven, but they had the president's ear, they'd be
dangerous.
3) You know there are millions. The proof? Nobody buys television time to
address a tiny audience. Turn on your TV on Sunday morning.



John H March 1st 05 03:08 PM

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:52:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it
is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their

hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is
not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be

competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies waiting the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



1) Nobody can accurately determine the number.
2) If there were just eleven, but they had the president's ear, they'd be
dangerous.
3) You know there are millions. The proof? Nobody buys television time to
address a tiny audience. Turn on your TV on Sunday morning.


Is it your contention, Doug, that Bush is now going to start lobbing nukes
around the world to experience the 'rapture' called for by these 'loonies' who
'have his ear'?

How was the 65 million number picked, Doug? If you started off talking about 11
loonies, would you get the reaction you desired?



Doug Kanter March 1st 05 07:09 PM


"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:52:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it
is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and
are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their
hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions
of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is
not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be
competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies waiting
the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



1) Nobody can accurately determine the number.
2) If there were just eleven, but they had the president's ear, they'd be
dangerous.
3) You know there are millions. The proof? Nobody buys television time to
address a tiny audience. Turn on your TV on Sunday morning.


Is it your contention, Doug, that Bush is now going to start lobbing nukes
around the world to experience the 'rapture' called for by these 'loonies'
who
'have his ear'?

How was the 65 million number picked, Doug? If you started off talking
about 11
loonies, would you get the reaction you desired?



I have no idea how the number was picked. I simply tagged onto someone
else's message. You have nothing better to do. Read backwards through the
discussion.

As far as Bush, he doesn't need to lob nukes to be dangerous. Let's turn the
question around: You don't want religious fanatics determining political
policy in the Arab countries, right? What about here? Do you want them
wielding the same influence here?



Calif Bill March 1st 05 07:52 PM


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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and it
is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and

are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their

hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions

of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is
not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions

of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be

competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies waiting

the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



1) Nobody can accurately determine the number.
2) If there were just eleven, but they had the president's ear, they'd be
dangerous.
3) You know there are millions. The proof? Nobody buys television time to
address a tiny audience. Turn on your TV on Sunday morning.



Now it is probably millions? Get your facts somewhat straight before
posting, and people may pay attention to you.



Doug Kanter March 1st 05 08:21 PM


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Harrythenut does not want to admit he lost the election, and
it
is
everyone
else in the country that is wrong.

Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are
millions
of
loonies
walking around who actually believe this rapture nonsense, and

are
willing
to manipulate politics here and overseas to fit their
hallucinations?



Does your comment somehow negate the fact that there are millions

of
loonies walking around who actually believe the President Bush is
not
the
President, as they did not vote for him? That there are millions

of
loonies
walking around who actually believe the Sen. Kerry would be
competant?



That has nothing to do with the original subject of this thread.



Makes as much sense as you stating there are 65 mm loonies waiting

the
rapture.



Simple, for you:

The
Number
Doesn't
Matter



Oh, now it does not matter?



1) Nobody can accurately determine the number.
2) If there were just eleven, but they had the president's ear, they'd be
dangerous.
3) You know there are millions. The proof? Nobody buys television time to
address a tiny audience. Turn on your TV on Sunday morning.



Now it is probably millions? Get your facts somewhat straight before
posting, and people may pay attention to you.



Is this really the best you can do? Fixate on a number which nobody can
accurately determine?




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