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Jim, February 24th 05 02:25 PM

( OT ) REPUBLICANS, BLOGGERS AND GAYS, OH MY!
 
More info from another republican shill

By Ann Coulter (best hold your crucifix as you read this)

In response to the public disgrace and ruin of New York Times editor
Howell Raines, CBS anchor Dan Rather and CNN news director Eason Jordan,
liberals are directing their fury at the blogs. Once derided as people
sitting around their living rooms in pajamas, now obscure writers for
unknown Web sites are coming under more intensive background checks than
CIA (news - web sites) agents.

Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter



The heretofore-unknown Jeff Gannon of the heretofore-unknown "Talon
News" service was caught red-handed asking friendly questions at a White
House press briefing. Now the media is hot on the trail of a gay escort
service that Gannon may have run some years ago. Are we supposed to like
gay people now, or hate them? Is there a Web site where I can go to and
find out how the Democrats want me to feel about gay people on a
moment-to-moment basis?

Liberals keep rolling out a scrolling series of attacks on Gannon for
their Two Minutes Hate, but all their other charges against him fall
apart after three seconds of scrutiny. Gannon's only offense is that he
may be gay.

First, liberals claimed Gannon was a White House plant who received a
press pass so that he could ask softball questions -- a perk reserved
for New York Times reporters during the Clinton years. Their proof was
that while "real" journalists (like Jayson Blair) were being denied
press passes, Gannon had one, even though he writes for a Web site that
no one has ever heard of -- but still big enough to be a target of
liberal hatred! (By the way, if writing for a news organization with no
viewers is grounds for being denied a press pass, why do MSNBC reporters
have them?)

On the op-ed page of The New York Times, Maureen Dowd openly lied about
the press pass, saying: "I was rejected for a White House press pass at
the start of the Bush administration, but someone with an alias, a tax
evasion problem and Internet pictures where he posed like the 'Barberini
Faun' is credentialed?"

Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows
that dyspeptic, old Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president.
Still, it would be suspicious if Dowd were denied a press pass while
someone from "Talon News" got one, even if he is a better reporter.

But Dowd was talking about two different passes without telling her
readers (a process now known in journalism schools as "Dowdification").
Gannon didn't have a permanent pass; he had only a daily pass. Almost
anyone can get a daily pass -- even famed Times fantasist Maureen Dowd
could have gotten one of those. A daily pass and a permanent pass are
altogether different animals. The entire linchpin of Dowd's column was a
lie. (And I'm sure the Times' public editor will get right on Dowd's
deception.)

Finally, liberals expressed shock and dismay that Gannon's real name is
"James Guckert." On MSNBC's "Hardball," Chris Matthews introduced the
Gannon scandal this way: "Coming up, how did a fake news reporter from a
right-wing Web site get inside the White House press briefings and
presidential news conferences?"

Reporter David Shuster then gave a report on "the phony alias Guckert
used to play journalist" -- as opposed to the real name Shuster uses to
play journalist. (You can tell Schuster is a crackerjack journalist
because he uses phrases like "phony alias.") With all the subtlety of a
gay-bashing skinhead, Matthews spent the rest of the segment seeing how
many times he could smear Gannon by mentioning "HotMilitaryStuds.com"
and laughing.

Any day now, Matthews will devote entire shows to exposing Larry
Zeigler, Gerald Riviera and Michael Weiner -- aka Larry King, Geraldo
Rivera and Matthews' former MSNBC colleague Michael Savage. As a
newspaper reporter, Wolf Blitzer has written under the names Ze'ev
Blitzer and Ze'ev Barak. The greatest essayist of modern times was Eric
Blair, aka George Orwell. The worst essayist of modern times is "TRB" of
The New Republic.

Air America radio host and "Nanny" impersonator "Randi Rhodes" goes by a
fake name, and she won't even tell people what her real last name is.
(She says for "privacy reasons." That name must be a real doozy.) As
Insideradio.com describes Rhodes, she refuses "to withhold anything from
her listeners" and says conservatives "are less likely to share such
things." How about sharing your name, Randi? We promise not to laugh.

Democrats in Congress actually demanded that an independent prosecutor
investigate how Gannon got into White House press conferences while
writing under an invented name. How did Gary Hartpence, Billy Blythe and
John Kohn (Gary Hart, Bill Clinton (news - web sites) and John Kerry
(news - web sites)) run for president under invented names? Admittedly,
these men were not reporters for the prestigious "Talon News" service;
they were merely Democrats running for president.

Liberals keep telling us the media isn't liberal, but in order to
retaliate for the decimation of major news organizations like The New
York Times, CBS News and CNN, all they can do is produce the scalp of an
obscure writer for an unknown conservative Web page. And unlike Raines,
Rather and Jordan, they can't even get Gannon for incompetence on the
job. (Also unlike Raines, Rather and Jordan, Gannon has appeared on TV
and given a series of creditable interviews in his own defense, proving
our gays are more macho than their straights.)

Gannon didn't write about gays. No "hypocrisy" is being exposed.
Liberals' hateful, frothing-at-the-mouth campaign against Gannon
consists solely of their claim that he is gay.

JimH February 24th 05 02:36 PM

What is your purpose in posting this crap here? This is a boating NG with
maybe an audience of 200 folks. Do you really think you are going to change
anyone's opinion or make any sort of impact by posting this crap here?

If you are deadset on changing things your time would be better spent than
posting your crap here.



[email protected] February 24th 05 04:54 PM

Why stir thing up? Oh well.

At least a cut n' paste is on a more adult level than a picture of a
couple of hillbillies standing outside a single wide, some childish
assertion that it represents another poster's wedding picture, and four
grammar school pig-pilers chiming in on a gang-bang attack post. Bad as
this is, that was the low point of the week so far.


JimH February 24th 05 04:55 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Why stir thing up? Oh well.

At least a cut n' paste is on a more adult level than a picture of a
couple of hillbillies standing outside a single wide, some childish
assertion that it represents another poster's wedding picture, and four
grammar school pig-pilers chiming in on a gang-bang attack post. Bad as
this is, that was the low point of the week so far.


And basskisser was one who should have been respected here Chuck? He earned
every bit of that piece of satire I posted, and you know it.



JimH February 24th 05 05:05 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
Why stir thing up? Oh well.

At least a cut n' paste is on a more adult level than a picture of a
couple of hillbillies standing outside a single wide, some childish
assertion that it represents another poster's wedding picture, and four
grammar school pig-pilers chiming in on a gang-bang attack post. Bad as
this is, that was the low point of the week so far.


And basskisser was one who should have been respected here Chuck? He
earned every bit of that piece of satire I posted, and you know it.


BTW Chuck....next time you throw an insult at me be man enough to mention my
name.

I also need to remind you of a rule you set for the forum which you seem to
constantly break:

Chuck's rule #4. No personal attacks. (I don't want to hear "but Mom, he
started it".)



Yep I broke it....but the guy was well deserving of everything I threw at
him.



But why are *you* breaking your own rule?



Don White February 24th 05 05:31 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

BTW Chuck....next time you throw an insult at me be man enough to mention

my
name.

I also need to remind you of a rule you set for the forum which you seem

to
constantly break:

Chuck's rule #4. No personal attacks. (I don't want to hear "but Mom, he
started it".)



Yep I broke it....but the guy was well deserving of everything I threw at
him.

But why are *you* breaking your own rule?



This is rich! You have the gall to call another poster on the carpet for
breaking an agreement. I can't decide if you are suffering some kind of
dementia,,or are a natural born liar.



JimH February 24th 05 05:37 PM


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...

BTW Chuck....next time you throw an insult at me be man enough to mention

my
name.

I also need to remind you of a rule you set for the forum which you seem

to
constantly break:

Chuck's rule #4. No personal attacks. (I don't want to hear "but Mom, he
started it".)



Yep I broke it....but the guy was well deserving of everything I threw at
him.

But why are *you* breaking your own rule?



This is rich! You have the gall to call another poster on the carpet for
breaking an agreement. I can't decide if you are suffering some kind of
dementia,,or are a natural born liar.



You obviously missed the point Don....the rule was set by Chucky, not me.
Yes, I broke the rule. But he made the rule, not me, and he broke it.

Understand now?

Good.

Now go back to enjoying your freedoms.....freedoms earned for you by our men
and women in uniform...the same ones you despise.



bb February 24th 05 05:41 PM

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:31:04 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

I can't decide if you are suffering some kind of
dementia,,or are a natural born liar.


I haven't seen any evidence to suggest it can't be both.

bb

Don White February 24th 05 05:53 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...


You obviously missed the point Don....the rule was set by Chucky, not me.
Yes, I broke the rule. But he made the rule, not me, and he broke it.

Understand now?

Good.

Now go back to enjoying your freedoms.....freedoms earned for you by our

men
and women in uniform...the same ones you despise.



Jim...you know very well I was refering to 'our' agreement.



jps February 24th 05 05:53 PM

In article , says...
What is your purpose in posting this crap here? This is a boating NG with
maybe an audience of 200 folks. Do you really think you are going to change
anyone's opinion or make any sort of impact by posting this crap here?

If you are deadset on changing things your time would be better spent than
posting your crap here.


I'm sure Jim assumes you worship Ann Coulter based on the off-topic
views you regularly contribute to this group.

jps

P.Fritz February 24th 05 05:55 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
Why stir thing up? Oh well.

At least a cut n' paste is on a more adult level than a picture of a
couple of hillbillies standing outside a single wide, some childish
assertion that it represents another poster's wedding picture, and four
grammar school pig-pilers chiming in on a gang-bang attack post. Bad as
this is, that was the low point of the week so far.


And basskisser was one who should have been respected here Chuck? He
earned every bit of that piece of satire I posted, and you know it.


Why am I not surprised he is defending asslicker?







JimH February 24th 05 05:58 PM


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...


You obviously missed the point Don....the rule was set by Chucky, not me.
Yes, I broke the rule. But he made the rule, not me, and he broke it.

Understand now?

Good.

Now go back to enjoying your freedoms.....freedoms earned for you by our

men
and women in uniform...the same ones you despise.



Jim...you know very well I was refering to 'our' agreement.



Sorry, but you broke it once you started to 'dis our men and women in
uniform.



jps February 24th 05 05:59 PM

In article , says...

Now go back to enjoying your freedoms.....freedoms earned for you by our men
and women in uniform...the same ones you despise.


Another simple-minded assertion by JimH.

Black and white worlds are easy to comprehend for the intellectually
challenged.

jps

Don White February 24th 05 06:16 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...


Sorry, but you broke it once you started to 'dis our men and women in
uniform.

I see. You're one of those guys who changes the rules as you move along..
I haven't 'dissed' any men or women in uniform...just Bert. I've got two
nieces and a nephew's wife in the Canadian Military. I don't want the family
on my case too...it's bad enough in here.



[email protected] February 24th 05 06:24 PM

P. Fritz wote:

Why am I not surprised he is defending asslicker?

*****************

Perhaps because you lack the noodles to realize I'm not "defending"
anybody.

Funny, I didn't even mention bass's name in my comment.
Nor did I mention yours, or JimH's.....but you guys sure knew who I was
talking about (and came out swinging) when I remarked about childish
behavior, didn't you?

Posting the photo was a stupid stunt. It reminds me of grade school,
where kids draw funny, distorted pictures of one another and hold them
up to the class to try to get a laugh. The first guy
doesn't know any better and this sort of behavior typifies his
"contributions" to the NG. The three or four guys who piled on
apparently don't know any better, either. If the shoe fits, wear it
proudly. If not, don't sweat it. But save all the "it was a right,
adult, or justified thing to do" nonsense for like-minded little
bullies who hide behind computers and design entire threads around
personal attacks.


JimH February 24th 05 06:29 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...
P. Fritz wote:

Why am I not surprised he is defending asslicker?

*****************

Perhaps because you lack the noodles to realize I'm not "defending"
anybody.

Funny, I didn't even mention bass's name in my comment.
Nor did I mention yours, or JimH's.....but you guys sure knew who I was
talking about (and came out swinging) when I remarked about childish
behavior, didn't you?

Posting the photo was a stupid stunt. It reminds me of grade school,
where kids draw funny, distorted pictures of one another and hold them
up to the class to try to get a laugh. The first guy
doesn't know any better and this sort of behavior typifies his
"contributions" to the NG. The three or four guys who piled on
apparently don't know any better, either. If the shoe fits, wear it
proudly. If not, don't sweat it. But save all the "it was a right,
adult, or justified thing to do" nonsense for like-minded little
bullies who hide behind computers and design entire threads around
personal attacks.


Lighten up Chucky. Then go find a sense of humor. It was all in good fun.
And the guy was well deserving of the joke.

As I said before if you are going to slam me at least be man enough to
direct it to me by stating my name.

And start using some self discipline by obeying the rules *you* set for this
NG.



John H February 24th 05 06:53 PM

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:25:22 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

More info from another republican shill

By Ann Coulter (best hold your crucifix as you read this)

In response to the public disgrace and ruin of New York Times editor
Howell Raines, CBS anchor Dan Rather and CNN news director Eason Jordan,
liberals are directing their fury at the blogs. Once derided as people
sitting around their living rooms in pajamas, now obscure writers for
unknown Web sites are coming under more intensive background checks than
CIA (news - web sites) agents.

Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter



The heretofore-unknown Jeff Gannon of the heretofore-unknown "Talon
News" service was caught red-handed asking friendly questions at a White
House press briefing. Now the media is hot on the trail of a gay escort
service that Gannon may have run some years ago. Are we supposed to like
gay people now, or hate them? Is there a Web site where I can go to and
find out how the Democrats want me to feel about gay people on a
moment-to-moment basis?

Liberals keep rolling out a scrolling series of attacks on Gannon for
their Two Minutes Hate, but all their other charges against him fall
apart after three seconds of scrutiny. Gannon's only offense is that he
may be gay.

First, liberals claimed Gannon was a White House plant who received a
press pass so that he could ask softball questions -- a perk reserved
for New York Times reporters during the Clinton years. Their proof was
that while "real" journalists (like Jayson Blair) were being denied
press passes, Gannon had one, even though he writes for a Web site that
no one has ever heard of -- but still big enough to be a target of
liberal hatred! (By the way, if writing for a news organization with no
viewers is grounds for being denied a press pass, why do MSNBC reporters
have them?)

On the op-ed page of The New York Times, Maureen Dowd openly lied about
the press pass, saying: "I was rejected for a White House press pass at
the start of the Bush administration, but someone with an alias, a tax
evasion problem and Internet pictures where he posed like the 'Barberini
Faun' is credentialed?"

Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows
that dyspeptic, old Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president.
Still, it would be suspicious if Dowd were denied a press pass while
someone from "Talon News" got one, even if he is a better reporter.

But Dowd was talking about two different passes without telling her
readers (a process now known in journalism schools as "Dowdification").
Gannon didn't have a permanent pass; he had only a daily pass. Almost
anyone can get a daily pass -- even famed Times fantasist Maureen Dowd
could have gotten one of those. A daily pass and a permanent pass are
altogether different animals. The entire linchpin of Dowd's column was a
lie. (And I'm sure the Times' public editor will get right on Dowd's
deception.)

Finally, liberals expressed shock and dismay that Gannon's real name is
"James Guckert." On MSNBC's "Hardball," Chris Matthews introduced the
Gannon scandal this way: "Coming up, how did a fake news reporter from a
right-wing Web site get inside the White House press briefings and
presidential news conferences?"

Reporter David Shuster then gave a report on "the phony alias Guckert
used to play journalist" -- as opposed to the real name Shuster uses to
play journalist. (You can tell Schuster is a crackerjack journalist
because he uses phrases like "phony alias.") With all the subtlety of a
gay-bashing skinhead, Matthews spent the rest of the segment seeing how
many times he could smear Gannon by mentioning "HotMilitaryStuds.com"
and laughing.

Any day now, Matthews will devote entire shows to exposing Larry
Zeigler, Gerald Riviera and Michael Weiner -- aka Larry King, Geraldo
Rivera and Matthews' former MSNBC colleague Michael Savage. As a
newspaper reporter, Wolf Blitzer has written under the names Ze'ev
Blitzer and Ze'ev Barak. The greatest essayist of modern times was Eric
Blair, aka George Orwell. The worst essayist of modern times is "TRB" of
The New Republic.

Air America radio host and "Nanny" impersonator "Randi Rhodes" goes by a
fake name, and she won't even tell people what her real last name is.
(She says for "privacy reasons." That name must be a real doozy.) As
Insideradio.com describes Rhodes, she refuses "to withhold anything from
her listeners" and says conservatives "are less likely to share such
things." How about sharing your name, Randi? We promise not to laugh.

Democrats in Congress actually demanded that an independent prosecutor
investigate how Gannon got into White House press conferences while
writing under an invented name. How did Gary Hartpence, Billy Blythe and
John Kohn (Gary Hart, Bill Clinton (news - web sites) and John Kerry
(news - web sites)) run for president under invented names? Admittedly,
these men were not reporters for the prestigious "Talon News" service;
they were merely Democrats running for president.

Liberals keep telling us the media isn't liberal, but in order to
retaliate for the decimation of major news organizations like The New
York Times, CBS News and CNN, all they can do is produce the scalp of an
obscure writer for an unknown conservative Web page. And unlike Raines,
Rather and Jordan, they can't even get Gannon for incompetence on the
job. (Also unlike Raines, Rather and Jordan, Gannon has appeared on TV
and given a series of creditable interviews in his own defense, proving
our gays are more macho than their straights.)

Gannon didn't write about gays. No "hypocrisy" is being exposed.
Liberals' hateful, frothing-at-the-mouth campaign against Gannon
consists solely of their claim that he is gay.


Damn, Jimcomma, where did you find an honest article?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H February 24th 05 06:56 PM

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:59:34 -0800, jps wrote:

In article , says...

Now go back to enjoying your freedoms.....freedoms earned for you by our men
and women in uniform...the same ones you despise.


Another simple-minded assertion by JimH.

Black and white worlds are easy to comprehend for the intellectually
challenged.

jps


I guess old man Descartes was a pretty binary kind of guy also, huh?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

[email protected] February 24th 05 07:01 PM

Don White wrote:

This is rich! You have the gall to call another poster on the carpet
for
breaking an agreement. I can't decide if you are suffering some kind
of
dementia,,or are a natural born liar.

***********

Consider the second possibility.

If you check the archives, you'll discover that I *never* posted this
group of f'd up "rules" that JimH keeps attributing to me. He either
believes his own bullcrap, or is insulting the intelligence of the rest
of the NG, en masse, by figuring that constantly repeating a falsehood
will somehow make it seem real. Oh well, why not? Works for Rush
Limbaugh et al, doesn't it?

I'd rather be branded as a breaker of a "rule" I never set, than
self-exposed as a liar without
principles of any sort. How fricking twisted, to base a series of
attacks on some person based your own lie and as if it were a factual
event. A brain is a waste when awarded to a man without a conscience.


P.Fritz February 24th 05 07:08 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
P. Fritz wote:

Why am I not surprised he is defending asslicker?

*****************

Perhaps because you lack the noodles to realize I'm not "defending"
anybody.

Funny, I didn't even mention bass's name in my comment.
Nor did I mention yours, or JimH's.....but you guys sure knew who I was
talking about (and came out swinging) when I remarked about childish
behavior, didn't you?

Posting the photo was a stupid stunt. It reminds me of grade school,
where kids draw funny, distorted pictures of one another and hold them
up to the class to try to get a laugh. The first guy
doesn't know any better and this sort of behavior typifies his
"contributions" to the NG. The three or four guys who piled on
apparently don't know any better, either. If the shoe fits, wear it
proudly. If not, don't sweat it. But save all the "it was a right,
adult, or justified thing to do" nonsense for like-minded little
bullies who hide behind computers and design entire threads around
personal attacks.


Lighten up Chucky. Then go find a sense of humor. It was all in good
fun. And the guy was well deserving of the joke.


What is grade school is the way liebrals like chuck and crew point fingers
at everyone else for the very things they are guilty of.


As I said before if you are going to slam me at least be man enough to
direct it to me by stating my name.

And start using some self discipline by obeying the rules *you* set for
this NG.










JimH February 24th 05 07:08 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Don White wrote:

This is rich! You have the gall to call another poster on the carpet
for
breaking an agreement. I can't decide if you are suffering some kind
of
dementia,,or are a natural born liar.

***********

Consider the second possibility.

If you check the archives, you'll discover that I *never* posted this
group of f'd up "rules" that JimH keeps attributing to me.


Sure you did. They may not have been specifically listed as rule #1, #2,
etc. but you listed them to me when posting about things you don't like that
I (and others) do here from time to time. All I did was number them.

Here they are again Chuck. You may want to study and abide by them....they
are, after all, *your* rules.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chuck's rule #1. No name calling. (Chuck, you can start by dropping the
childish change of my
last name.)



Chuck's rule #2. No discussions about people No politics. No religion.
No
union talk. No talk about war. Boat talk only.


Chuck's rule #3. Serious boating discussion only. No joking around about
anything
related to boats or anything else. One must remain focused and serious when
discussing boating.


Chuck's rule #4. No personal attacks. (I don't want to hear "but Mom, he
started it".)



Chuck's rule #5. A contributor to rec.boats is rated only on the percentage
of boating related topics he/she contributes to the NG. In order to be
considered a contributor one must be 100% on topic with no side bars on non
related items. See rule #3. Chuck Gould will be the ultimate judge as to
ones rating.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++





Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd. February 24th 05 08:05 PM

How was the picture any different than you calling others "grammar school
pig-pillers?


wrote in message
oups.com...
Why stir thing up? Oh well.

At least a cut n' paste is on a more adult level than a picture of a
couple of hillbillies standing outside a single wide, some childish
assertion that it represents another poster's wedding picture, and four
grammar school pig-pilers chiming in on a gang-bang attack post. Bad as
this is, that was the low point of the week so far.




JimH February 24th 05 08:14 PM

Do as Chucky says.....not as he does. ;-)


"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
How was the picture any different than you calling others "grammar school
pig-pillers?


wrote in message
oups.com...
Why stir thing up? Oh well.

At least a cut n' paste is on a more adult level than a picture of a
couple of hillbillies standing outside a single wide, some childish
assertion that it represents another poster's wedding picture, and four
grammar school pig-pilers chiming in on a gang-bang attack post. Bad as
this is, that was the low point of the week so far.






jps February 24th 05 08:48 PM

In article .com,
says...
Don White wrote:

This is rich! You have the gall to call another poster on the carpet
for
breaking an agreement. I can't decide if you are suffering some kind
of
dementia,,or are a natural born liar.

***********

Consider the second possibility.

If you check the archives, you'll discover that I *never* posted this
group of f'd up "rules" that JimH keeps attributing to me. He either
believes his own bullcrap, or is insulting the intelligence of the rest
of the NG, en masse, by figuring that constantly repeating a falsehood
will somehow make it seem real. Oh well, why not? Works for Rush
Limbaugh et al, doesn't it?

I'd rather be branded as a breaker of a "rule" I never set, than
self-exposed as a liar without
principles of any sort. How fricking twisted, to base a series of
attacks on some person based your own lie and as if it were a factual
event. A brain is a waste when awarded to a man without a conscience.



A perfect description of behavior by the current inhabitants of the
White House.

jps

jps February 24th 05 08:53 PM

In article ,
says...

What is grade school is the way liebrals like chuck and crew point fingers
at everyone else for the very things they are guilty of.


When you finally graduate from the elementary school system (I expect
you're probably shaving already) you'll have learned proper grammar.

....for the very things of which they (themselves) are guilty.

Good luck in your continuing studies.

jps

jps February 24th 05 08:55 PM

In article ,
says...


Damn, Jimcomma, where did you find an honest article?


More proof that you're a complete ****in' idiot.

She's makin' money off your stupidity as are 1% of the population.

jps

Jim, February 24th 05 09:25 PM

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...



Damn, Jimcomma, where did you find an honest article?



More proof that you're a complete ****in' idiot.

She's makin' money off your stupidity as are 1% of the population.

jps


By now, almost everyone's heard of Jeff Gannon/James Guckert. He's the
fake reporter with a false name given all-too-real press credentials by
the White House. He's known for asking biased, leading questions during
press briefings before finally being exposed a month ago as a right-wing
operative with no journalism experience, a fake name, and a shady past.
There are some serious ethical, professional and national security
issues at stake. Now, "Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) is circulating a
letter among his colleagues that asks President Bush to launch an
investigation
(
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/..._id=1000816326)
" into how Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without
any journalistic qualifications. Durbin and other concerned lawmakers
are adding their voices to a previous investigation request by Sen.
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), as well as a subpoena request by two leaders of
the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, Reps. John Conyers (D-MI) and Louise
Slaughter (D-NY), who want federal prosecutors to gain access to a
record Gannon kept of his time over the past two years. Here are some
basic questions that must be answered by the White House:



HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK? Most White House journalists have what is called a
"hard pass," a permanent pass obtained after undergoing a rigorous FBI
background check
(http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...ert/print.html) .
Gannon skipped over that step. Instead, as Salon's Eric Boehlert
explains, "the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass." Now, day passes are special
exceptions that are "designed for temporary use by out-of-town reporters
who need access to the White House, not for indefinite use
(http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...non/print.html)
by reporters." If the background check is necessary for reporters with
extended access to the White House, why were the rules circumvented for
Gannon? Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day"
passes, as Gannon did for years?



HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED? Bush Press Secretary Scott McClellan
admitted the White House gave Gannon his first day press pass in
February 2003
(http://199.249.170.220/eandp/news/ar..._id=1000808705)
.. The problem: His "publication," Talon News, didn't exist until April 2003.



BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS? Talon News is
the brainchild (http://mediamatters.org/items/200501280006) of a
Republican activist from Texas, Bobby Eberle. Eberle, who runs the aptly
named "GOPUSA," told the New York Times he created Talon News because he
wanted to quietly construct a news service with a conservative slant:
"if someone were to see 'GOPUSA,' there's an instant built-in bias
(http://199.249.170.220/eandp/news/ar..._id=1000808705)
there." In denying Gannon a pass, the congressional press office
pointed out Gannon was unable to show that "Talon News has any paid
subscribers
(http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...non/print.html) ."
They also found that while actual working reporters can show their
principal income comes from reporting stories for publication in actual
news services, Talon's "paying a single reporter a 'stipend' does not
meet the intent of the rule." As the Washington Post's Dana Milbank put
it, Gannon was "representing a phony media company
(http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/arts/20rich.html) that doesn't
really have any such thing as circulation or readership."



HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME? Jeff
Gannon's real name is James Guckert. (He told Wolf Blitzer that he
changed his name because "Jeff Gannon" was easier to pronounce.)
Although all applications for White House press passes are supposed to
be thoroughly vetted, White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan said
he was unaware (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/arts/20rich.html)
that Gannon was using an alias. His predecessor, Ari Fleischer, also
pleads ignorance
(http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1000807754)
.. Gannon signed in to the White House each day as "Jeff Guckert,"
(http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...10/wbr.01.html) a name
which did not match his pass -- yet no one seemed to thing that was
strange. In fact, no one at the White House seems overly concerned with
what amounts to a stunning national security breach.



WHAT IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE? Jeff Gannon has
been interviewed by FBI agents who are investigating another security
breach in the White House, namely, the leaking of CIA agent Valerie
Plame's name to the press. So far, Gannon has been coy, giving "
conflicting signals
(http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/..._id=1000816326)
, over many months, concerning whether he saw a secret document or
merely knew about it from other sources." Today he says he never really
saw the memo, he'd only read about it in the Wall Street Journal. Reps.
Conyers and Slaughter are asking Patrick Fitzgerald, the lead prosecutor
in the Plame investigation, to subpoena the journal Gannon kept over the
past two years to find out what Gannon actually knew, and when.

[email protected] February 24th 05 09:42 PM

Dr. Jonathan Shmithers asked:

How was the picture any different than you calling others "grammar
school
pig-pillers?


*********************

How can you be so obtuse?

The comment about grammar school pig-pilers was an opinion expressed
about a deliberate behavior exhibited in this forum.

To gratify a sick, twisted, predatory sense of "humor", one of your
crew posted a photo (so full of stereoypes it almost had to be staged)
and claimed "This is the recent wedding photo for so and so." In fact,
the predatory personality felt the idea was so inspired it deserved an
entire thread of its own.

An easily predicted group of folks jumped on the sick, twisted,
predatory bandwagon with celebratory high fives and gratuitous reach
arounds.

What portion of the previous two paragraphs would you care to factually
refute?

Now let's address the photo, as you're asking how posting the photo
compares to expressing an opinion that doing so was juvenile. Unlike
the activites upon which I based my opinion, all of which were easily
observable in the NG, the photo was not based in fact or reality. It
was, as I have said, the internet equivalent of a grade school drawing
with distorted features and some poor *******'s name penciled in below.

The hillbillie picture thread didn't say a thing about the guy it was
purported to represent, but it spoke volumes about the guy who launched
the thread and the easily led group of hypocritical psychophant
pile-ons unable to distinguish between adult or juvenile behaviors.


John H February 24th 05 10:15 PM

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:25:28 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...



Damn, Jimcomma, where did you find an honest article?



More proof that you're a complete ****in' idiot.

She's makin' money off your stupidity as are 1% of the population.

jps


By now, almost everyone's heard of Jeff Gannon/James Guckert. He's the
fake reporter with a false name given all-too-real press credentials by
the White House.


He's the one who asked the only literate question at the press briefing, to wit:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

You gotta love it!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JimH February 24th 05 10:28 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Dr. Jonathan Shmithers asked:

How was the picture any different than you calling others "grammar
school
pig-pillers?


*********************

How can you be so obtuse?

The comment about grammar school pig-pilers was an opinion expressed
about a deliberate behavior exhibited in this forum.

To gratify a sick, twisted, predatory sense of "humor", one of your
crew posted a photo (so full of stereoypes it almost had to be staged)
and claimed "This is the recent wedding photo for so and so." In fact,
the predatory personality felt the idea was so inspired it deserved an
entire thread of its own.

An easily predicted group of folks jumped on the sick, twisted,
predatory bandwagon with celebratory high fives and gratuitous reach
arounds.

What portion of the previous two paragraphs would you care to factually
refute?

Now let's address the photo, as you're asking how posting the photo
compares to expressing an opinion that doing so was juvenile. Unlike
the activites upon which I based my opinion, all of which were easily
observable in the NG, the photo was not based in fact or reality. It
was, as I have said, the internet equivalent of a grade school drawing
with distorted features and some poor *******'s name penciled in below.

The hillbillie picture thread didn't say a thing about the guy it was
purported to represent, but it spoke volumes about the guy who launched
the thread and the easily led group of hypocritical psychophant
pile-ons unable to distinguish between adult or juvenile behaviors.



A five minute google search turned up these Chucky classics:

=============================================
Will I continue to respond to childish name calling and personal insult? Not
for long.



Name calling and personal attack? Desperate, fearful acts that betray a weak
personality.



As you're not an extreme idiot, I'm genuinely surprised you would lump *all*
of
any group into a single category.



Are you as much an idiot as a wise ass, xxxxx?



Ah, whatsa matter xxxxxx? The big bad discussion get so cereberal for ya
that
you're left with no recourse except launching unprovoked personal attacks?
What a lightweight.



xxxxx is an incompetant and blithering idiot



Probably a good thing there's no truth to the rumor that your ass is where
your
brains are, you'd be a stupid frickin' Jose by now.



Or is enough to imply that people who have not been impressed with
some aspects of his intellectual profile are just too stupid to appreciate
the
man's obvious brilliance?



I've been taking lessons from an asshole in Ohio. The half-witted SOB
never posts a line without attacking somebody, and then runs crying
about his hurt feelings whenever anybody says "boo" back at him. My
little sister used to act the same way, before she grew out of it. Come
to think of it, Jim, you live in Ohio too! On the off chance that you
run into the asshole I'm referring to, give him my regards, OK?

================================================== =============



I pasted only a fraction of what I found, and this was with a search of only
3 foul words.



A 5 minute search.



Do as I say, not as I do.....eh Chuck?



jps February 25th 05 12:21 AM

In article , says...


I pasted only a fraction of what I found, and this was with a search of only
3 foul words.


Feeble attempt at misdirection.

jps February 25th 05 12:27 AM

In article ,
says...

He's the one who asked the only literate question at the press briefing, to wit:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"


It's surprising Guckert had enough time to attend press briefings with
all the pitching, catching and sucking he had going on.

Quite an entrepreneur. Just the kind Republicans admire most.

Fake ones.

jps

Jim, February 25th 05 03:19 AM

John H wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:25:28 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


jps wrote:

In article ,
says...




Damn, Jimcomma, where did you find an honest article?


More proof that you're a complete ****in' idiot.

She's makin' money off your stupidity as are 1% of the population.

jps


By now, almost everyone's heard of Jeff Gannon/James Guckert. He's the
fake reporter with a false name given all-too-real press credentials by
the White House.



He's the one who asked the only literate question at the press briefing, to wit:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

You gotta love it!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes



I note the questions remain

How did Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without any
journalistic qualifications.

HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK?


Why did the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass.

Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day" passes, as
Gannon did for years?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED?

BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME?

WHAT ( if any) IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE?

Did his sexual orientation "buy" him any favors from the White House?

Time to live up to your motto John

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"



John H February 25th 05 12:22 PM

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:27:22 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

He's the one who asked the only literate question at the press briefing, to wit:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"


It's surprising Guckert had enough time to attend press briefings with
all the pitching, catching and sucking he had going on.

Quite an entrepreneur. Just the kind Republicans admire most.

Fake ones.

jps


I thought you liberal folks were pushing homosexuality as the only way to go!
Now you're coming down on someone who may be gay.

Y'all need to clean up your act!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H February 25th 05 12:26 PM

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:19:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


I note the questions remain

How did Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without any
journalistic qualifications.

HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK?


Why did the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass.

Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day" passes, as
Gannon did for years?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED?

BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME?

WHAT ( if any) IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE?

Did his sexual orientation "buy" him any favors from the White House?

Time to live up to your motto John

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"


There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you, gives a rat's
ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Don't you just love it? That question kind of says it all, doesn't it. I can see
why some folks just seem to forget it.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JimH February 25th 05 12:32 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Dr. Jonathan Shmithers asked:

How was the picture any different than you calling others "grammar
school
pig-pillers?


*********************

How can you be so obtuse?

The comment about grammar school pig-pilers was an opinion expressed
about a deliberate behavior exhibited in this forum.


So was the picture Chucky.

Hypocrisy thy name is Chuck Gould.



thunder February 25th 05 12:50 PM

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:26:09 -0500, John H wrote:


There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you, gives a
rat's ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:


You are right, no one should care about Gannon, but you are also wrong.
The important question is: How did someone with inadequate credentials
gain access to the President? The President's security *should* be more
important than any damn question Gannon asked.

John H February 25th 05 02:03 PM

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:50:49 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:26:09 -0500, John H wrote:


There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you, gives a
rat's ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:


You are right, no one should care about Gannon, but you are also wrong.
The important question is: How did someone with inadequate credentials
gain access to the President? The President's security *should* be more
important than any damn question Gannon asked.


I expect there were enough Secret Service folks around to handle any supposed
'security' issues that may have arisen. I find it hard to believe that you
liberals are so suddenly concerned with the 'security' of the president!

No, the important question remains that which you folks and the major media
delete:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

What a great question!!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd. February 25th 05 02:10 PM

Gould,

This post reminds me of Netsock repeatedly posting OT messages complaining
about Off topic messages.

The picture was an attempt at a joke, and an opinion on the intellectually
level of Basskisser. No one expected anyone to believe the picture was
real. This post in which you call a number of people "sick and twisted",and
"predatory" is your opinion.

The only difference between these two opinions, is one person attempted to
use humor and you did not.




wrote in message
oups.com...
Dr. Jonathan Shmithers asked:

How was the picture any different than you calling others "grammar
school
pig-pillers?


*********************

How can you be so obtuse?

The comment about grammar school pig-pilers was an opinion expressed
about a deliberate behavior exhibited in this forum.

To gratify a sick, twisted, predatory sense of "humor", one of your
crew posted a photo (so full of stereoypes it almost had to be staged)
and claimed "This is the recent wedding photo for so and so." In fact,
the predatory personality felt the idea was so inspired it deserved an
entire thread of its own.

An easily predicted group of folks jumped on the sick, twisted,
predatory bandwagon with celebratory high fives and gratuitous reach
arounds.

What portion of the previous two paragraphs would you care to factually
refute?

Now let's address the photo, as you're asking how posting the photo
compares to expressing an opinion that doing so was juvenile. Unlike
the activites upon which I based my opinion, all of which were easily
observable in the NG, the photo was not based in fact or reality. It
was, as I have said, the internet equivalent of a grade school drawing
with distorted features and some poor *******'s name penciled in below.

The hillbillie picture thread didn't say a thing about the guy it was
purported to represent, but it spoke volumes about the guy who launched
the thread and the easily led group of hypocritical psychophant
pile-ons unable to distinguish between adult or juvenile behaviors.




Jim, February 25th 05 02:15 PM

John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:19:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:



I note the questions remain

How did Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without any
journalistic qualifications.

HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK?


Why did the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass.

Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day" passes, as
Gannon did for years?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED?

BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME?

WHAT ( if any) IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE?

Did his sexual orientation "buy" him any favors from the White House?

Time to live up to your motto John

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"



There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you, gives a rat's
ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Don't you just love it? That question kind of says it all, doesn't it. I can see
why some folks just seem to forget it.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

You can chant that mantra all you want, but it still appears to me that
Gannon had some boyfriends in the whitehouse who arranged for him to be
a plant.

You're not following your own tagline
"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"

So do some resolving chant away if you like -- it's sorta like them
monks spinning the wheels.


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