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John H February 25th 05 02:17 PM

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:10:49 -0500, "Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd."
wrote:

Gould,

This post reminds me of Netsock repeatedly posting OT messages complaining
about Off topic messages.

The picture was an attempt at a joke, and an opinion on the intellectually
level of Basskisser. No one expected anyone to believe the picture was
real. This post in which you call a number of people "sick and twisted",and
"predatory" is your opinion.

The only difference between these two opinions, is one person attempted to
use humor and you did not.


The picture *wasn't* real?

Damn!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H February 25th 05 02:19 PM

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:15:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:19:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:



I note the questions remain

How did Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without any
journalistic qualifications.

HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK?


Why did the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass.

Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day" passes, as
Gannon did for years?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED?

BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME?

WHAT ( if any) IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE?

Did his sexual orientation "buy" him any favors from the White House?

Time to live up to your motto John

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"



There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you, gives a rat's
ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Don't you just love it? That question kind of says it all, doesn't it. I can see
why some folks just seem to forget it.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

You can chant that mantra all you want, but it still appears to me that
Gannon had some boyfriends in the whitehouse who arranged for him to be
a plant.

You're not following your own tagline
"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"

So do some resolving chant away if you like -- it's sorta like them
monks spinning the wheels.


*What* difficulty presents itself?

There is no difficulty, other than that you liberals, who normally praise
homosexuality, seem to find fault if the homosexual is a conservative!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Jim, February 25th 05 02:27 PM

John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:15:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:19:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:




I note the questions remain

How did Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without any
journalistic qualifications.

HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK?


Why did the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass.

Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day" passes, as
Gannon did for years?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED?

BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME?

WHAT ( if any) IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE?

Did his sexual orientation "buy" him any favors from the White House?

Time to live up to your motto John

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"



There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you, gives a rat's
ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Don't you just love it? That question kind of says it all, doesn't it. I can see
why some folks just seem to forget it.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


You can chant that mantra all you want, but it still appears to me that
Gannon had some boyfriends in the whitehouse who arranged for him to be
a plant.

You're not following your own tagline
"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"

So do some resolving chant away if you like -- it's sorta like them
monks spinning the wheels.



*What* difficulty presents itself?

There is no difficulty, other than that you liberals, who normally praise
homosexuality, seem to find fault if the homosexual is a conservative!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes



I'm more concerned with republicans attempting to manage the news by
planting so called press people in the audience to lob softballs, and
make political comments.

Appears you have no answer to the questions raised -- even Ann Coulter
posted some BS trying to defend the move.

So try dividing each difficulty into as many parts as feasible -- maybe
try answering just ONE question.

I'll even accept the mantra again -- it's becoming amusing. How many
times a day do you ave to recite it to be a good republican?

jps February 25th 05 03:16 PM

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:27:22 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

He's the one who asked the only literate question at the press briefing, to wit:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"


It's surprising Guckert had enough time to attend press briefings with
all the pitching, catching and sucking he had going on.

Quite an entrepreneur. Just the kind Republicans admire most.

Fake ones.

jps


I thought you liberal folks were pushing homosexuality as the only way to go!
Now you're coming down on someone who may be gay.

Y'all need to clean up your act!


You know that's complete bull****. The point is we don't care if
they're straight or gay, just as long as they have a conscience and are
willing to use it.

Clearly, you aren't.

jps

John H February 25th 05 05:05 PM

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:27:40 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:15:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:19:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:




I note the questions remain

How did Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without any
journalistic qualifications.

HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK?


Why did the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass.

Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day" passes, as
Gannon did for years?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED?

BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME?

WHAT ( if any) IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE?

Did his sexual orientation "buy" him any favors from the White House?

Time to live up to your motto John

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"



There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you, gives a rat's
ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Don't you just love it? That question kind of says it all, doesn't it. I can see
why some folks just seem to forget it.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

You can chant that mantra all you want, but it still appears to me that
Gannon had some boyfriends in the whitehouse who arranged for him to be
a plant.

You're not following your own tagline
"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"

So do some resolving chant away if you like -- it's sorta like them
monks spinning the wheels.



*What* difficulty presents itself?

There is no difficulty, other than that you liberals, who normally praise
homosexuality, seem to find fault if the homosexual is a conservative!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes



I'm more concerned with republicans attempting to manage the news by
planting so called press people in the audience to lob softballs, and
make political comments.

Appears you have no answer to the questions raised -- even Ann Coulter
posted some BS trying to defend the move.

So try dividing each difficulty into as many parts as feasible -- maybe
try answering just ONE question.

I'll even accept the mantra again -- it's becoming amusing. How many
times a day do you ave to recite it to be a good republican?


Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?

Give me a break!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H February 25th 05 05:07 PM

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:16:11 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:27:22 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

He's the one who asked the only literate question at the press briefing, to wit:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

It's surprising Guckert had enough time to attend press briefings with
all the pitching, catching and sucking he had going on.

Quite an entrepreneur. Just the kind Republicans admire most.

Fake ones.

jps


I thought you liberal folks were pushing homosexuality as the only way to go!
Now you're coming down on someone who may be gay.

Y'all need to clean up your act!


You know that's complete bull****. The point is we don't care if
they're straight or gay, just as long as they have a conscience and are
willing to use it.

Clearly, you aren't.

jps


Oh really? Then why all the comments about Gannon's sexual proclivities?

I just don't understand you the hypocrisy escapes you.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

[email protected] February 25th 05 05:21 PM

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Coulter lied and distorted to defend "Gannon," falsely attack Democrats
and "liberal" media

Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter presented a raft of lies and distortions
to defend former Talon News Washington bureau chief and White House
correspondent Jeff Gannon (aka James D. Guckert) from Democrats and the
"liberal media." Among the accusations in Coulter's February 24
nationally syndicated column were that the "liberal media" resorted to
probing Gannon's private life after failing to "get Gannon for
incompetence on the job"; that former Democratic presidential candidate
Gary Hart, former President Bill Clinton, and Senator John Kerry all
ran for office under "invented names"; and that New York Times
columnist Maureen Dowd "openly lied" when writing about Gannon's White
House press passes.

"Liberals keep rolling out a series of attacks on Gannon for their Two
Minutes of Hate, but all their other charges against him fall apart
after three seconds of scrutiny. Gannon's only offense is that he may
be gay," Coulter wrote.

In a broadside against the "liberal media," Coulter falsely claimed
that "they can't even get Gannon for incompetence on the job":

Liberals keep telling us the media isn't liberal, but in order to
retaliate for the decimation of major news organizations like the New
York Times, CBS News and CNN, all they can do is produce the scalp of
an obscure writer for an unknown conservative Web page. And unlike
[former New York Times executive editor Howell] Raines, [CBS News
anchor Dan] Rather and [former CNN chief news executive Eason] Jordan,
they can't even get Gannon for incompetence on the job.

In fact, Media Matters for America has documented numerous instances of
Gannon's incompetence: He lifted large portions of White House and
Republican materials verbatim for his "news reports"; he reported a
baseless, thoroughly disproven rumor of an extramarital affair between
Kerry and an unnamed woman; and he used a fabricated quotation
attributed to Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) to ask a
softball question of George W. Bush.

Coulter proceeded to attack congressional Democrats for "demand[ing]
that an independent prosecutor investigate how Gannon got into the
White House under an invented name" and conflated Guckert/Gannon's use
of a pseudonym to the "invented names" of various Democratic
presidential candidates, asking: "How did Gary Hartpence, Billy Blythe
and John Kohn (Gary Hart, Bill Clinton and John Kerry) run for
president under invented names?" The truth is that neither Hart nor
Clinton "invented" their names, and Kerry's name was never Kohn.

Hart's parents changed the family's last name from Hartpence to Hart in
the late 1950s because, Hart said, it had been their original family
name. Clinton was born William Jefferson Blythe IV after his deceased
father, but in high school he assumed the last name of his stepfather,
Roger Clinton, who had married his mother when Bill Clinton was 4 years
old. The Associated Press reported on March 10, 1992, that Clinton's
mother said that Roger Clinton loved Bill like a son. Kerry was born
"John Forbes Kerry" and has never held the surname Kohn; his
grandfather changed his name from Fritz Kohn to Frederick Kerry in
1901.

By contrast, James D. Guckert's name appears as such on his driver's
license. He claims he uses "Jeff Gannon" because it is easier to spell
and pronounce. He has provided no other reason for adopting the
pseudonym.

Coulter also claimed that Dowd lied when the latter wrote in her
February 17 column that "I was rejected for a White House press pass at
the start of the Bush administration, but someone with an alias, a tax
evasion problem and Internet pictures where he posed like the
'Barberini Faun' is credentialed to cover a White House that won a
second term by mining homophobia and preaching family values?" Coulter
insisted that Dowd "openly lied" by "talking about two different press
passes without telling her readers." But regardless of what kind of
pass Gannon used, the fact remains, as Dowd noted, that "[i]n an era
when security concerns are paramount," Gannon "could saunter into the
West Wing every day under an assumed name while he was doing
full-frontal advertising for stud services for $1,200 a weekend."

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Jim, February 25th 05 05:39 PM

John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:27:40 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:


On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:15:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:



John H wrote:


On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:19:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:





I note the questions remain

How did Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without any
journalistic qualifications.

HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK?


Why did the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass.

Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day" passes, as
Gannon did for years?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED?

BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME?

WHAT ( if any) IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE?

Did his sexual orientation "buy" him any favors from the White House?

Time to live up to your motto John

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"



There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you, gives a rat's
ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Don't you just love it? That question kind of says it all, doesn't it. I can see
why some folks just seem to forget it.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

You can chant that mantra all you want, but it still appears to me that
Gannon had some boyfriends in the whitehouse who arranged for him to be
a plant.

You're not following your own tagline
"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"

So do some resolving chant away if you like -- it's sorta like them
monks spinning the wheels.


*What* difficulty presents itself?

There is no difficulty, other than that you liberals, who normally praise
homosexuality, seem to find fault if the homosexual is a conservative!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes



I'm more concerned with republicans attempting to manage the news by
planting so called press people in the audience to lob softballs, and
make political comments.

Appears you have no answer to the questions raised -- even Ann Coulter
posted some BS trying to defend the move.

So try dividing each difficulty into as many parts as feasible -- maybe
try answering just ONE question.

I'll even accept the mantra again -- it's becoming amusing. How many
times a day do you ave to recite it to be a good republican?



Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?


They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.

Give me a break!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


Still haven't answered any questions John -- I'll take that as "I can't"

jps February 25th 05 06:10 PM

In article ,
says...

Oh really? Then why all the comments about Gannon's sexual proclivities?

I just don't understand you the hypocrisy escapes you.


I never said anything about him being gay. My problem is with him being
an electronic pimp and a scumbag.

I could care less who he wants to have sex with, but, unlike
Republicans, I do care if a purveyor of the sex trade is welcomed into
the White House press corps while a 20 year vet is thrown out.

Try fitting that glove on someone else 'cause it's not my size.

jps

John H February 25th 05 06:18 PM

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:39:54 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:27:40 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:


On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:15:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:



John H wrote:


On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:19:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:





I note the questions remain

How did Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without any
journalistic qualifications.

HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK?


Why did the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass.

Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day" passes, as
Gannon did for years?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED?

BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME?

WHAT ( if any) IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE?

Did his sexual orientation "buy" him any favors from the White House?

Time to live up to your motto John

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"



There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you, gives a rat's
ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Don't you just love it? That question kind of says it all, doesn't it. I can see
why some folks just seem to forget it.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

You can chant that mantra all you want, but it still appears to me that
Gannon had some boyfriends in the whitehouse who arranged for him to be
a plant.

You're not following your own tagline
"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"

So do some resolving chant away if you like -- it's sorta like them
monks spinning the wheels.


*What* difficulty presents itself?

There is no difficulty, other than that you liberals, who normally praise
homosexuality, seem to find fault if the homosexual is a conservative!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


I'm more concerned with republicans attempting to manage the news by
planting so called press people in the audience to lob softballs, and
make political comments.

Appears you have no answer to the questions raised -- even Ann Coulter
posted some BS trying to defend the move.

So try dividing each difficulty into as many parts as feasible -- maybe
try answering just ONE question.

I'll even accept the mantra again -- it's becoming amusing. How many
times a day do you ave to recite it to be a good republican?



Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?


They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.

Give me a break!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


Still haven't answered any questions John -- I'll take that as "I can't"


Oh, I see. If they have a pass, then they're not a plant.

Do you actually believe this crap?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Jim, February 25th 05 06:37 PM

John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:39:54 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:27:40 GMT, "Jim," wrote:



John H wrote:



On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:15:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:




John H wrote:



On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:19:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:






I note the questions remain

How did Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without any
journalistic qualifications.

HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK?


Why did the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass.

Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day" passes, as
Gannon did for years?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED?

BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME?

WHAT ( if any) IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE?

Did his sexual orientation "buy" him any favors from the White House?

Time to live up to your motto John

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"



There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you, gives a rat's
ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Don't you just love it? That question kind of says it all, doesn't it. I can see
why some folks just seem to forget it.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

You can chant that mantra all you want, but it still appears to me that
Gannon had some boyfriends in the whitehouse who arranged for him to be
a plant.

You're not following your own tagline
"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"

So do some resolving chant away if you like -- it's sorta like them
monks spinning the wheels.


*What* difficulty presents itself?

There is no difficulty, other than that you liberals, who normally praise
homosexuality, seem to find fault if the homosexual is a conservative!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


I'm more concerned with republicans attempting to manage the news by
planting so called press people in the audience to lob softballs, and
make political comments.

Appears you have no answer to the questions raised -- even Ann Coulter
posted some BS trying to defend the move.

So try dividing each difficulty into as many parts as feasible -- maybe
try answering just ONE question.

I'll even accept the mantra again -- it's becoming amusing. How many
times a day do you ave to recite it to be a good republican?


Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?


They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.

Give me a break!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


Still haven't answered any questions John -- I'll take that as "I can't"



Oh, I see. If they have a pass, then they're not a plant.

Do you actually believe this crap?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


If they have a pass, they have been checked out by the secret service,
and work for a reputable news organization. Spin it all you want, but
Gannon was a plant. Apparently you agree with the concept (so long as
he had republican leanings)

JimH February 25th 05 06:42 PM


"Jim," wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:39:54 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:27:40 GMT, "Jim," wrote:



John H wrote:



On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:15:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:




John H wrote:



On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:19:19 GMT, "Jim,"
wrote:






I note the questions remain

How did Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without
any journalistic qualifications.

HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN
FBI BACKGROUND CHECK?


Why did the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly
two years using what's called a day pass.

Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day" passes,
as Gannon did for years?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED?

BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME?

WHAT ( if any) IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE?

Did his sexual orientation "buy" him any favors from the White
House?

Time to live up to your motto John

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and
necessary to resolve it"



There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you,
gives a rat's
ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak
picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking
about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the
economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that
Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to
work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going
to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Don't you just love it? That question kind of says it all, doesn't
it. I can see
why some folks just seem to forget it.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and
necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes

You can chant that mantra all you want, but it still appears to me
that Gannon had some boyfriends in the whitehouse who arranged for
him to be a plant.

You're not following your own tagline
"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and
necessary
to resolve it"

So do some resolving chant away if you like -- it's sorta like them
monks spinning the wheels.


*What* difficulty presents itself?

There is no difficulty, other than that you liberals, who normally
praise
homosexuality, seem to find fault if the homosexual is a conservative!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and
necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes


I'm more concerned with republicans attempting to manage the news by
planting so called press people in the audience to lob softballs, and
make political comments.

Appears you have no answer to the questions raised -- even Ann Coulter
posted some BS trying to defend the move.

So try dividing each difficulty into as many parts as feasible -- maybe
try answering just ONE question.

I'll even accept the mantra again -- it's becoming amusing. How many
times a day do you ave to recite it to be a good republican?


Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets
of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?

They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.

Give me a break!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it." Rene Descartes

Still haven't answered any questions John -- I'll take that as "I can't"



Oh, I see. If they have a pass, then they're not a plant.

Do you actually believe this crap?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it." Rene Descartes


If they have a pass, they have been checked out by the secret service, and
work for a reputable news organization.


If they have to work for a reputable news organization how do reporters from
ABC, CBS, NBC, CNBC and CNN get passes?



DSK February 25th 05 07:00 PM

John H wrote:
Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets
of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?



I guess if it's not constantly spewing hatred against homos &
libby-rulls, then it's not legitimate media in your opinion?

This says a lot about the Bush/Cheney attitude... forget the First
Amendment, state control of the media is their agenda.

Jim, wrote:
They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.


But she might ask him an actual question. We can't have that now,
everybody must stand together against terrorism and stanp out this
traitorous practice of expecting actual answers from your gov't!

DSK


John H February 25th 05 08:22 PM

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:37:05 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:39:54 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:27:40 GMT, "Jim," wrote:



John H wrote:



On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:15:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:




John H wrote:



On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:19:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:






I note the questions remain

How did Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without any
journalistic qualifications.

HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK?


Why did the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass.

Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day" passes, as
Gannon did for years?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED?

BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME?

WHAT ( if any) IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE?

Did his sexual orientation "buy" him any favors from the White House?

Time to live up to your motto John

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"



There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you, gives a rat's
ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Don't you just love it? That question kind of says it all, doesn't it. I can see
why some folks just seem to forget it.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

You can chant that mantra all you want, but it still appears to me that
Gannon had some boyfriends in the whitehouse who arranged for him to be
a plant.

You're not following your own tagline
"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"

So do some resolving chant away if you like -- it's sorta like them
monks spinning the wheels.


*What* difficulty presents itself?

There is no difficulty, other than that you liberals, who normally praise
homosexuality, seem to find fault if the homosexual is a conservative!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


I'm more concerned with republicans attempting to manage the news by
planting so called press people in the audience to lob softballs, and
make political comments.

Appears you have no answer to the questions raised -- even Ann Coulter
posted some BS trying to defend the move.

So try dividing each difficulty into as many parts as feasible -- maybe
try answering just ONE question.

I'll even accept the mantra again -- it's becoming amusing. How many
times a day do you ave to recite it to be a good republican?


Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?

They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.

Give me a break!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Still haven't answered any questions John -- I'll take that as "I can't"



Oh, I see. If they have a pass, then they're not a plant.

Do you actually believe this crap?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


If they have a pass, they have been checked out by the secret service,
and work for a reputable news organization. Spin it all you want, but
Gannon was a plant. Apparently you agree with the concept (so long as
he had republican leanings)


Oh, so if they have a pass, and if they've been checked out, and if they work
for a 'reputable' (your word) 'news' (another of your words) organization,
*then* they aren't a plant?

Again, have you ever listened to a White House briefing? Do you honestly believe
those 'journalists' from the major media are just seeking information?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H February 25th 05 08:24 PM

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:00:58 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets
of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?



I guess if it's not constantly spewing hatred against homos &
libby-rulls, then it's not legitimate media in your opinion?

This says a lot about the Bush/Cheney attitude... forget the First
Amendment, state control of the media is their agenda.

Jim, wrote:
They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.


But she might ask him an actual question. We can't have that now,
everybody must stand together against terrorism and stanp out this
traitorous practice of expecting actual answers from your gov't!

DSK


Helen Thomas hasn't asked an actual question in ages. Helen Thomas pontificates
her opinion until she is stopped. She should have been sent out of the room long
ago.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Jim, February 25th 05 08:31 PM

John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:37:05 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:39:54 GMT, "Jim," wrote:



John H wrote:


On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:27:40 GMT, "Jim," wrote:




John H wrote:




On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:15:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:





John H wrote:




On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:19:19 GMT, "Jim," wrote:







I note the questions remain

How did Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without any
journalistic qualifications.

HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK?


Why did the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass.

Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day" passes, as
Gannon did for years?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED?

BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS?

HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME?

WHAT ( if any) IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE?

Did his sexual orientation "buy" him any favors from the White House?

Time to live up to your motto John

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"



There is no 'difficulty' to divide, Jimcomma. No one, except you, gives a rat's
ass about Gannon. The important question to answer is:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Don't you just love it? That question kind of says it all, doesn't it. I can see
why some folks just seem to forget it.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

You can chant that mantra all you want, but it still appears to me that
Gannon had some boyfriends in the whitehouse who arranged for him to be
a plant.

You're not following your own tagline
"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it"

So do some resolving chant away if you like -- it's sorta like them
monks spinning the wheels.


*What* difficulty presents itself?

There is no difficulty, other than that you liberals, who normally praise
homosexuality, seem to find fault if the homosexual is a conservative!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


I'm more concerned with republicans attempting to manage the news by
planting so called press people in the audience to lob softballs, and
make political comments.

Appears you have no answer to the questions raised -- even Ann Coulter
posted some BS trying to defend the move.

So try dividing each difficulty into as many parts as feasible -- maybe
try answering just ONE question.

I'll even accept the mantra again -- it's becoming amusing. How many
times a day do you ave to recite it to be a good republican?


Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?

They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.


Give me a break!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Still haven't answered any questions John -- I'll take that as "I can't"


Oh, I see. If they have a pass, then they're not a plant.

Do you actually believe this crap?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


If they have a pass, they have been checked out by the secret service,
and work for a reputable news organization. Spin it all you want, but
Gannon was a plant. Apparently you agree with the concept (so long as
he had republican leanings)



Oh, so if they have a pass, and if they've been checked out, and if they work
for a 'reputable' (your word) 'news' (another of your words) organization,
*then* they aren't a plant?

Again, have you ever listened to a White House briefing? Do you honestly believe
those 'journalists' from the major media are just seeking information?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


Some have an agenda -- but I believe Faux has a White House
correspondent to "balance things". Would seem to me that a good newsman
(ooops newsPERSON) would be ready, willing, and able to challenge
statements he finds suspicious.

Jim, February 25th 05 08:37 PM

John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:00:58 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:

Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets
of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?

I guess if it's not constantly spewing hatred against homos &
libby-rulls, then it's not legitimate media in your opinion?

This says a lot about the Bush/Cheney attitude... forget the First
Amendment, state control of the media is their agenda.

Jim, wrote:

They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.


But she might ask him an actual question. We can't have that now,
everybody must stand together against terrorism and stanp out this
traitorous practice of expecting actual answers from your gov't!

DSK



Helen Thomas hasn't asked an actual question in ages. Helen Thomas pontificates
her opinion until she is stopped. She should have been sent out of the room long
ago.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


Here's the text of her last question -- since then she has been
isolated. This question seems to me much more of a question than the
political statement made by "Jeff Gannon"

Begin quote:

Helen Thomas, the most senior member of the White House press corps,
really socked it to Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer on Monday over
the issue of Iraq. Check out the dialogue:

January 6, 2003 – 12:35 P.M. EST

MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon and happy New Year to everybody. The
President began his day with an intelligence briefing, followed by an
FBI briefing. Then he had a series of policy briefings. And this
afternoon, the President will look forward to a Cabinet meeting where
the President will discuss with members of his Cabinet his agenda for
the year. The President is going to focus on economic growth, making
America a more compassionate country, and providing for the security of
our nation abroad and on the homefront.

And with that, I'm more than happy to take your questions. Helen.

HELEN THOMAS: At the earlier briefing, Ari, you said that the President
deplored the taking of innocent lives. Does that apply to all innocent
lives in the world? And I have a follow-up.

MR. FLEISCHER: I refer specifically to a horrible terrorist attack on
Tel Aviv that killed scores and wounded hundreds. And the President, as
he said in his statement yesterday, deplores in the strongest terms the
taking of those lives and the wounding of those people, innocents in Israel.

MS. THOMAS: My follow-up is, why does he want to drop bombs on innocent
Iraqis?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, the question is how to protect Americans, and our
allies and friends --

MS. THOMAS: They're not attacking you.

MR. FLEISCHER: -- from a country --

MS. THOMAS: Have they laid the glove on you or on the United States, the
Iraqis, in 11 years?

MR. FLEISCHER: I guess you have forgotten about the Americans who were
killed in the first Gulf War as a result of Saddam Hussein's aggression
then.

MS. THOMAS: Is this revenge, 11 years of revenge?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, I think you know very well that the President's
position is that he wants to avert war, and that the President has asked
the United Nations to go into Iraq to help with the purpose of averting war.

MS. THOMAS: Would the President attack innocent Iraqi lives?

MR. FLEISCHER: The President wants to make certain that he can defend
our country, defend our interests, defend the region, and make certain
that American lives are not lost.

MS. THOMAS: And he thinks they are a threat to us?

MR. FLEISCHER: There is no question that the President thinks that Iraq
is a threat to the United States.

MS. THOMAS: The Iraqi people?

MR. FLEISCHER: The Iraqi people are represented by their government. If
there was regime change, the Iraqi --

MS. THOMAS: So they will be vulnerable?

MR. FLEISCHER: Actually, the President has made it very clear that he
has not dispute with the people of Iraq. That's why the American policy
remains a policy of regime change. There is no question the people of
Iraq --

MS. THOMAS: That's a decision for them to make, isn't it? It's their
country.

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, if you think that the people of Iraq are in a
position to dictate who their dictator is, I don't think that has been
what history has shown.

MS. THOMAS: I think many countries don't have -- people don't have the
decision -- including us.

John H February 25th 05 09:19 PM

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:31:24 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

John H wrote:


If they have a pass, they have been checked out by the secret service,
and work for a reputable news organization. Spin it all you want, but
Gannon was a plant. Apparently you agree with the concept (so long as
he had republican leanings)



Oh, so if they have a pass, and if they've been checked out, and if they work
for a 'reputable' (your word) 'news' (another of your words) organization,
*then* they aren't a plant?

Again, have you ever listened to a White House briefing? Do you honestly believe
those 'journalists' from the major media are just seeking information?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


Some have an agenda -- but I believe Faux has a White House
correspondent to "balance things". Would seem to me that a good newsman
(ooops newsPERSON) would be ready, willing, and able to challenge
statements he finds suspicious.


Oh, well, one correspondent to 'balance' things. You've said it all.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H February 25th 05 09:22 PM

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:37:00 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:00:58 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:

Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets
of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?

I guess if it's not constantly spewing hatred against homos &
libby-rulls, then it's not legitimate media in your opinion?

This says a lot about the Bush/Cheney attitude... forget the First
Amendment, state control of the media is their agenda.

Jim, wrote:

They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.


But she might ask him an actual question. We can't have that now,
everybody must stand together against terrorism and stanp out this
traitorous practice of expecting actual answers from your gov't!

DSK



Helen Thomas hasn't asked an actual question in ages. Helen Thomas pontificates
her opinion until she is stopped. She should have been sent out of the room long
ago.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


Here's the text of her last question -- since then she has been
isolated. This question seems to me much more of a question than the
political statement made by "Jeff Gannon"

Begin quote:

Helen Thomas, the most senior member of the White House press corps,
really socked it to Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer on Monday over
the issue of Iraq. Check out the dialogue:

January 6, 2003 – 12:35 P.M. EST

MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon and happy New Year to everybody. The
President began his day with an intelligence briefing, followed by an
FBI briefing. Then he had a series of policy briefings. And this
afternoon, the President will look forward to a Cabinet meeting where
the President will discuss with members of his Cabinet his agenda for
the year. The President is going to focus on economic growth, making
America a more compassionate country, and providing for the security of
our nation abroad and on the homefront.

And with that, I'm more than happy to take your questions. Helen.

HELEN THOMAS: At the earlier briefing, Ari, you said that the President
deplored the taking of innocent lives. Does that apply to all innocent
lives in the world? And I have a follow-up.

MR. FLEISCHER: I refer specifically to a horrible terrorist attack on
Tel Aviv that killed scores and wounded hundreds. And the President, as
he said in his statement yesterday, deplores in the strongest terms the
taking of those lives and the wounding of those people, innocents in Israel.

MS. THOMAS: My follow-up is, why does he want to drop bombs on innocent
Iraqis?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, the question is how to protect Americans, and our
allies and friends --

MS. THOMAS: They're not attacking you.

MR. FLEISCHER: -- from a country --

MS. THOMAS: Have they laid the glove on you or on the United States, the
Iraqis, in 11 years?

MR. FLEISCHER: I guess you have forgotten about the Americans who were
killed in the first Gulf War as a result of Saddam Hussein's aggression
then.

MS. THOMAS: Is this revenge, 11 years of revenge?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, I think you know very well that the President's
position is that he wants to avert war, and that the President has asked
the United Nations to go into Iraq to help with the purpose of averting war.

MS. THOMAS: Would the President attack innocent Iraqi lives?

MR. FLEISCHER: The President wants to make certain that he can defend
our country, defend our interests, defend the region, and make certain
that American lives are not lost.

MS. THOMAS: And he thinks they are a threat to us?

MR. FLEISCHER: There is no question that the President thinks that Iraq
is a threat to the United States.

MS. THOMAS: The Iraqi people?

MR. FLEISCHER: The Iraqi people are represented by their government. If
there was regime change, the Iraqi --

MS. THOMAS: So they will be vulnerable?

MR. FLEISCHER: Actually, the President has made it very clear that he
has not dispute with the people of Iraq. That's why the American policy
remains a policy of regime change. There is no question the people of
Iraq --

MS. THOMAS: That's a decision for them to make, isn't it? It's their
country.

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, if you think that the people of Iraq are in a
position to dictate who their dictator is, I don't think that has been
what history has shown.

MS. THOMAS: I think many countries don't have -- people don't have the
decision -- including us.


One does not require a degree in perspicacity to see the bias in her 'question',
does one?

Enough, Jimcomma.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Jim, February 25th 05 11:08 PM

John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:37:00 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:


On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:00:58 -0500, DSK wrote:



John H wrote:


Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets
of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?

I guess if it's not constantly spewing hatred against homos &
libby-rulls, then it's not legitimate media in your opinion?

This says a lot about the Bush/Cheney attitude... forget the First
Amendment, state control of the media is their agenda.

Jim, wrote:


They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.


But she might ask him an actual question. We can't have that now,
everybody must stand together against terrorism and stanp out this
traitorous practice of expecting actual answers from your gov't!

DSK


Helen Thomas hasn't asked an actual question in ages. Helen Thomas pontificates
her opinion until she is stopped. She should have been sent out of the room long
ago.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


Here's the text of her last question -- since then she has been
isolated. This question seems to me much more of a question than the
political statement made by "Jeff Gannon"

Begin quote:

Helen Thomas, the most senior member of the White House press corps,
really socked it to Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer on Monday over
the issue of Iraq. Check out the dialogue:

January 6, 2003 – 12:35 P.M. EST

MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon and happy New Year to everybody. The
President began his day with an intelligence briefing, followed by an
FBI briefing. Then he had a series of policy briefings. And this
afternoon, the President will look forward to a Cabinet meeting where
the President will discuss with members of his Cabinet his agenda for
the year. The President is going to focus on economic growth, making
America a more compassionate country, and providing for the security of
our nation abroad and on the homefront.

And with that, I'm more than happy to take your questions. Helen.

HELEN THOMAS: At the earlier briefing, Ari, you said that the President
deplored the taking of innocent lives. Does that apply to all innocent
lives in the world? And I have a follow-up.

MR. FLEISCHER: I refer specifically to a horrible terrorist attack on
Tel Aviv that killed scores and wounded hundreds. And the President, as
he said in his statement yesterday, deplores in the strongest terms the
taking of those lives and the wounding of those people, innocents in Israel.

MS. THOMAS: My follow-up is, why does he want to drop bombs on innocent
Iraqis?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, the question is how to protect Americans, and our
allies and friends --

MS. THOMAS: They're not attacking you.

MR. FLEISCHER: -- from a country --

MS. THOMAS: Have they laid the glove on you or on the United States, the
Iraqis, in 11 years?

MR. FLEISCHER: I guess you have forgotten about the Americans who were
killed in the first Gulf War as a result of Saddam Hussein's aggression
then.

MS. THOMAS: Is this revenge, 11 years of revenge?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, I think you know very well that the President's
position is that he wants to avert war, and that the President has asked
the United Nations to go into Iraq to help with the purpose of averting war.

MS. THOMAS: Would the President attack innocent Iraqi lives?

MR. FLEISCHER: The President wants to make certain that he can defend
our country, defend our interests, defend the region, and make certain
that American lives are not lost.

MS. THOMAS: And he thinks they are a threat to us?

MR. FLEISCHER: There is no question that the President thinks that Iraq
is a threat to the United States.

MS. THOMAS: The Iraqi people?

MR. FLEISCHER: The Iraqi people are represented by their government. If
there was regime change, the Iraqi --

MS. THOMAS: So they will be vulnerable?

MR. FLEISCHER: Actually, the President has made it very clear that he
has not dispute with the people of Iraq. That's why the American policy
remains a policy of regime change. There is no question the people of
Iraq --

MS. THOMAS: That's a decision for them to make, isn't it? It's their
country.

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, if you think that the people of Iraq are in a
position to dictate who their dictator is, I don't think that has been
what history has shown.

MS. THOMAS: I think many countries don't have -- people don't have the
decision -- including us.



One does not require a degree in perspicacity to see the bias in her 'question',
does one?

Enough, Jimcomma.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


Perhaps, it MR FLEISCHER if for no other reason than respect of her age
and seniority, were to let her ask her question without interruption,
she would have been kinder toward him.

John H February 26th 05 12:00 AM

On 25 Feb 2005 09:21:54 -0800, wrote:

Back to this story | Home
http://mediamatters.org/

Coulter lied and distorted to defend "Gannon," falsely attack Democrats
and "liberal" media


No, she didn't.

But what would one expect from a source whose goals a

Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit progressive research
and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and
correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media. Conservative
misinformation is defined as news or commentary presented in the media that is
not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda.

You'll notice that only 'conservative' misinformation is sought by this
upstanding organization. Wonder why that is? Do you suppose the only
misinformation is 'conservative' misinformation?

Where does our friend Dan R. fit into this agenda?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


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