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JimH February 24th 05 07:08 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Don White wrote:

This is rich! You have the gall to call another poster on the carpet
for
breaking an agreement. I can't decide if you are suffering some kind
of
dementia,,or are a natural born liar.

***********

Consider the second possibility.

If you check the archives, you'll discover that I *never* posted this
group of f'd up "rules" that JimH keeps attributing to me.


Sure you did. They may not have been specifically listed as rule #1, #2,
etc. but you listed them to me when posting about things you don't like that
I (and others) do here from time to time. All I did was number them.

Here they are again Chuck. You may want to study and abide by them....they
are, after all, *your* rules.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chuck's rule #1. No name calling. (Chuck, you can start by dropping the
childish change of my
last name.)



Chuck's rule #2. No discussions about people No politics. No religion.
No
union talk. No talk about war. Boat talk only.


Chuck's rule #3. Serious boating discussion only. No joking around about
anything
related to boats or anything else. One must remain focused and serious when
discussing boating.


Chuck's rule #4. No personal attacks. (I don't want to hear "but Mom, he
started it".)



Chuck's rule #5. A contributor to rec.boats is rated only on the percentage
of boating related topics he/she contributes to the NG. In order to be
considered a contributor one must be 100% on topic with no side bars on non
related items. See rule #3. Chuck Gould will be the ultimate judge as to
ones rating.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++





Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd. February 24th 05 08:05 PM

How was the picture any different than you calling others "grammar school
pig-pillers?


wrote in message
oups.com...
Why stir thing up? Oh well.

At least a cut n' paste is on a more adult level than a picture of a
couple of hillbillies standing outside a single wide, some childish
assertion that it represents another poster's wedding picture, and four
grammar school pig-pilers chiming in on a gang-bang attack post. Bad as
this is, that was the low point of the week so far.




JimH February 24th 05 08:14 PM

Do as Chucky says.....not as he does. ;-)


"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
How was the picture any different than you calling others "grammar school
pig-pillers?


wrote in message
oups.com...
Why stir thing up? Oh well.

At least a cut n' paste is on a more adult level than a picture of a
couple of hillbillies standing outside a single wide, some childish
assertion that it represents another poster's wedding picture, and four
grammar school pig-pilers chiming in on a gang-bang attack post. Bad as
this is, that was the low point of the week so far.






jps February 24th 05 08:48 PM

In article .com,
says...
Don White wrote:

This is rich! You have the gall to call another poster on the carpet
for
breaking an agreement. I can't decide if you are suffering some kind
of
dementia,,or are a natural born liar.

***********

Consider the second possibility.

If you check the archives, you'll discover that I *never* posted this
group of f'd up "rules" that JimH keeps attributing to me. He either
believes his own bullcrap, or is insulting the intelligence of the rest
of the NG, en masse, by figuring that constantly repeating a falsehood
will somehow make it seem real. Oh well, why not? Works for Rush
Limbaugh et al, doesn't it?

I'd rather be branded as a breaker of a "rule" I never set, than
self-exposed as a liar without
principles of any sort. How fricking twisted, to base a series of
attacks on some person based your own lie and as if it were a factual
event. A brain is a waste when awarded to a man without a conscience.



A perfect description of behavior by the current inhabitants of the
White House.

jps

jps February 24th 05 08:53 PM

In article ,
says...

What is grade school is the way liebrals like chuck and crew point fingers
at everyone else for the very things they are guilty of.


When you finally graduate from the elementary school system (I expect
you're probably shaving already) you'll have learned proper grammar.

....for the very things of which they (themselves) are guilty.

Good luck in your continuing studies.

jps

jps February 24th 05 08:55 PM

In article ,
says...


Damn, Jimcomma, where did you find an honest article?


More proof that you're a complete ****in' idiot.

She's makin' money off your stupidity as are 1% of the population.

jps

Jim, February 24th 05 09:25 PM

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...



Damn, Jimcomma, where did you find an honest article?



More proof that you're a complete ****in' idiot.

She's makin' money off your stupidity as are 1% of the population.

jps


By now, almost everyone's heard of Jeff Gannon/James Guckert. He's the
fake reporter with a false name given all-too-real press credentials by
the White House. He's known for asking biased, leading questions during
press briefings before finally being exposed a month ago as a right-wing
operative with no journalism experience, a fake name, and a shady past.
There are some serious ethical, professional and national security
issues at stake. Now, "Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) is circulating a
letter among his colleagues that asks President Bush to launch an
investigation
(
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/..._id=1000816326)
" into how Gannon gained access to White House press briefings without
any journalistic qualifications. Durbin and other concerned lawmakers
are adding their voices to a previous investigation request by Sen.
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), as well as a subpoena request by two leaders of
the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, Reps. John Conyers (D-MI) and Louise
Slaughter (D-NY), who want federal prosecutors to gain access to a
record Gannon kept of his time over the past two years. Here are some
basic questions that must be answered by the White House:



HOW LONG CAN JOURNALISTS GAIN ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT AN FBI
BACKGROUND CHECK? Most White House journalists have what is called a
"hard pass," a permanent pass obtained after undergoing a rigorous FBI
background check
(http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...ert/print.html) .
Gannon skipped over that step. Instead, as Salon's Eric Boehlert
explains, "the White House waved him into press briefings for nearly two
years using what's called a day pass." Now, day passes are special
exceptions that are "designed for temporary use by out-of-town reporters
who need access to the White House, not for indefinite use
(http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...non/print.html)
by reporters." If the background check is necessary for reporters with
extended access to the White House, why were the rules circumvented for
Gannon? Is there a limit to how long a reporter can slide on "day"
passes, as Gannon did for years?



HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS TWO MONTHS BEFORE HIS
SUPPOSED PUBLICATION EVEN EXISTED? Bush Press Secretary Scott McClellan
admitted the White House gave Gannon his first day press pass in
February 2003
(http://199.249.170.220/eandp/news/ar..._id=1000808705)
.. The problem: His "publication," Talon News, didn't exist until April 2003.



BY WHAT CRITERIA DID THE WHITE HOUSE EVALUATE TALON NEWS? Talon News is
the brainchild (http://mediamatters.org/items/200501280006) of a
Republican activist from Texas, Bobby Eberle. Eberle, who runs the aptly
named "GOPUSA," told the New York Times he created Talon News because he
wanted to quietly construct a news service with a conservative slant:
"if someone were to see 'GOPUSA,' there's an instant built-in bias
(http://199.249.170.220/eandp/news/ar..._id=1000808705)
there." In denying Gannon a pass, the congressional press office
pointed out Gannon was unable to show that "Talon News has any paid
subscribers
(http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...non/print.html) ."
They also found that while actual working reporters can show their
principal income comes from reporting stories for publication in actual
news services, Talon's "paying a single reporter a 'stipend' does not
meet the intent of the rule." As the Washington Post's Dana Milbank put
it, Gannon was "representing a phony media company
(http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/arts/20rich.html) that doesn't
really have any such thing as circulation or readership."



HOW DID GANNON GET A WHITE HOUSE PRESS PASS UNDER A FAKE NAME? Jeff
Gannon's real name is James Guckert. (He told Wolf Blitzer that he
changed his name because "Jeff Gannon" was easier to pronounce.)
Although all applications for White House press passes are supposed to
be thoroughly vetted, White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan said
he was unaware (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/arts/20rich.html)
that Gannon was using an alias. His predecessor, Ari Fleischer, also
pleads ignorance
(http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1000807754)
.. Gannon signed in to the White House each day as "Jeff Guckert,"
(http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...10/wbr.01.html) a name
which did not match his pass -- yet no one seemed to thing that was
strange. In fact, no one at the White House seems overly concerned with
what amounts to a stunning national security breach.



WHAT IS GANNON'S CONNECTION TO THE VALERIE PLAME CASE? Jeff Gannon has
been interviewed by FBI agents who are investigating another security
breach in the White House, namely, the leaking of CIA agent Valerie
Plame's name to the press. So far, Gannon has been coy, giving "
conflicting signals
(http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/..._id=1000816326)
, over many months, concerning whether he saw a secret document or
merely knew about it from other sources." Today he says he never really
saw the memo, he'd only read about it in the Wall Street Journal. Reps.
Conyers and Slaughter are asking Patrick Fitzgerald, the lead prosecutor
in the Plame investigation, to subpoena the journal Gannon kept over the
past two years to find out what Gannon actually knew, and when.

[email protected] February 24th 05 09:42 PM

Dr. Jonathan Shmithers asked:

How was the picture any different than you calling others "grammar
school
pig-pillers?


*********************

How can you be so obtuse?

The comment about grammar school pig-pilers was an opinion expressed
about a deliberate behavior exhibited in this forum.

To gratify a sick, twisted, predatory sense of "humor", one of your
crew posted a photo (so full of stereoypes it almost had to be staged)
and claimed "This is the recent wedding photo for so and so." In fact,
the predatory personality felt the idea was so inspired it deserved an
entire thread of its own.

An easily predicted group of folks jumped on the sick, twisted,
predatory bandwagon with celebratory high fives and gratuitous reach
arounds.

What portion of the previous two paragraphs would you care to factually
refute?

Now let's address the photo, as you're asking how posting the photo
compares to expressing an opinion that doing so was juvenile. Unlike
the activites upon which I based my opinion, all of which were easily
observable in the NG, the photo was not based in fact or reality. It
was, as I have said, the internet equivalent of a grade school drawing
with distorted features and some poor *******'s name penciled in below.

The hillbillie picture thread didn't say a thing about the guy it was
purported to represent, but it spoke volumes about the guy who launched
the thread and the easily led group of hypocritical psychophant
pile-ons unable to distinguish between adult or juvenile behaviors.


John H February 24th 05 10:15 PM

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:25:28 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...



Damn, Jimcomma, where did you find an honest article?



More proof that you're a complete ****in' idiot.

She's makin' money off your stupidity as are 1% of the population.

jps


By now, almost everyone's heard of Jeff Gannon/James Guckert. He's the
fake reporter with a false name given all-too-real press credentials by
the White House.


He's the one who asked the only literate question at the press briefing, to wit:

"Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the
U.S. economy. [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [D-NV] was talking about soup
lines. And [Senator] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] was talking about the economy being
on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security
is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you've
said you are going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work
with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

You gotta love it!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JimH February 24th 05 10:28 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Dr. Jonathan Shmithers asked:

How was the picture any different than you calling others "grammar
school
pig-pillers?


*********************

How can you be so obtuse?

The comment about grammar school pig-pilers was an opinion expressed
about a deliberate behavior exhibited in this forum.

To gratify a sick, twisted, predatory sense of "humor", one of your
crew posted a photo (so full of stereoypes it almost had to be staged)
and claimed "This is the recent wedding photo for so and so." In fact,
the predatory personality felt the idea was so inspired it deserved an
entire thread of its own.

An easily predicted group of folks jumped on the sick, twisted,
predatory bandwagon with celebratory high fives and gratuitous reach
arounds.

What portion of the previous two paragraphs would you care to factually
refute?

Now let's address the photo, as you're asking how posting the photo
compares to expressing an opinion that doing so was juvenile. Unlike
the activites upon which I based my opinion, all of which were easily
observable in the NG, the photo was not based in fact or reality. It
was, as I have said, the internet equivalent of a grade school drawing
with distorted features and some poor *******'s name penciled in below.

The hillbillie picture thread didn't say a thing about the guy it was
purported to represent, but it spoke volumes about the guy who launched
the thread and the easily led group of hypocritical psychophant
pile-ons unable to distinguish between adult or juvenile behaviors.



A five minute google search turned up these Chucky classics:

=============================================
Will I continue to respond to childish name calling and personal insult? Not
for long.



Name calling and personal attack? Desperate, fearful acts that betray a weak
personality.



As you're not an extreme idiot, I'm genuinely surprised you would lump *all*
of
any group into a single category.



Are you as much an idiot as a wise ass, xxxxx?



Ah, whatsa matter xxxxxx? The big bad discussion get so cereberal for ya
that
you're left with no recourse except launching unprovoked personal attacks?
What a lightweight.



xxxxx is an incompetant and blithering idiot



Probably a good thing there's no truth to the rumor that your ass is where
your
brains are, you'd be a stupid frickin' Jose by now.



Or is enough to imply that people who have not been impressed with
some aspects of his intellectual profile are just too stupid to appreciate
the
man's obvious brilliance?



I've been taking lessons from an asshole in Ohio. The half-witted SOB
never posts a line without attacking somebody, and then runs crying
about his hurt feelings whenever anybody says "boo" back at him. My
little sister used to act the same way, before she grew out of it. Come
to think of it, Jim, you live in Ohio too! On the off chance that you
run into the asshole I'm referring to, give him my regards, OK?

================================================== =============



I pasted only a fraction of what I found, and this was with a search of only
3 foul words.



A 5 minute search.



Do as I say, not as I do.....eh Chuck?




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