Coal tar for bottom of steel hull?
 

Hi,

I'm considering buying a houseboat with a steel bottom. New steel
was put on 4 years ago, and treated with coal tar epoxy, supposedly.
I was told that the coal tar treatment will last for a long time. Can
anyone tell me if the coal tar treatment is really good for a long time,
like 30 years or something? If it is, then why doesn't everyone use
it? It it's not, then how long is it good for, what to do, and when, in
the future?

Thanks for any help!
David

When I worked as a pile driver we coated steel to be under water with a
product called Bitumastic.
Worked for many years submerged 365.
Though not pretty tars can be great coatings.
If it interests you and you have the time do some tests.

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:51:04 -0500, wrote:

Hi,

I'm considering buying a houseboat with a steel bottom. New steel
was put on 4 years ago, and treated with coal tar epoxy, supposedly.
I was told that the coal tar treatment will last for a long time. Can
anyone tell me if the coal tar treatment is really good for a long time,
like 30 years or something? If it is, then why doesn't everyone use
it? It it's not, then how long is it good for, what to do, and when, in
the future?

It doesn't work well in some applications.

Coal tar expoxy and composites are very common.

The last time somebody asked the coal tar question, they found this
page very helpful.

http://www.epoxyproducts.com/coaltar.html

Good luck.

Later,

Tom

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:55:25 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:51:04 -0500, wrote:

Hi,

I'm considering buying a houseboat with a steel bottom. New steel
was put on 4 years ago, and treated with coal tar epoxy, supposedly.
I was told that the coal tar treatment will last for a long time. Can
anyone tell me if the coal tar treatment is really good for a long time,
like 30 years or something? If it is, then why doesn't everyone use
it? It it's not, then how long is it good for, what to do, and when, in
the future?

It doesn't work well in some applications.

Coal tar expoxy and composites are very common.

The last time somebody asked the coal tar question, they found this
page very helpful.

http://www.epoxyproducts.com/coaltar.html

Good luck.

Later,

Tom

Be sure and read all of what's shown on Tom's link. Especially hit the 'read
more' button or go to http://www.aproximada.com/

Nice poem. Thanks Tom!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

David, Its the epoxy word thats significant. Coal Tar Epoxy is used to coat
steel pipes and equipment in sewage treatment plants so you may gather it
can withstand all sorts of acidic substances and has a long life. However, I
don't know how it withstands the wear caused by rushing through water.
I have no experience of that.
Wilf

Coal tar has been in use in the Dutch canals for a 100 years successfully.
It is still in use. Your risk to corrosion is on the inside, not the
outside. Even there tar works very well unless it is exposed to oil or fuel.
I have seen examples of steel hulls immersed in salt water unpainted and
suffer 0 corrosion except at the air/water margin. Condensation on the
inside is a whole different matter. There the best protection is urethane
foam above the water line and tar below.
Steve
wrote in message
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Hi,

I'm considering buying a houseboat with a steel bottom. New steel
was put on 4 years ago, and treated with coal tar epoxy, supposedly.
I was told that the coal tar treatment will last for a long time. Can
anyone tell me if the coal tar treatment is really good for a long time,
like 30 years or something? If it is, then why doesn't everyone use
it? It it's not, then how long is it good for, what to do, and when, in
the future?

Thanks for any help!
David

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:50:56 +0100, "Steve Lusardi"
wrote:

Condensation on the
inside is a whole different matter. There the best protection is urethane
foam above the water line and tar below.

Wish more people did that. I've seen steel hulls with everything below
the cabin sole foamed in, and it seems to essentially trap moisture
and makes a nice damp sponge...with predictable results.

Can you coal tar the entire interior hull and then foam waterline to
hull joint? In other words, will ureathane foam stick to tarred steel?
And is there any benefit to this?

R.

Here in Thailand it is widely used on steel boats and boats with cast
iron keels ( our 42' ketch) lasts for many years especially when
overcoated with anti-foul. Coal Tar Epoxy is as the name suggests - an
epoxy.

Tony
S/V Ambrosia

Yes, that is common practise. Keep in mind that epoxy paints work well if
not exposed to sunlight. Very poor UV protection.
Steve

"rhys" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:50:56 +0100, "Steve Lusardi"
wrote:

Condensation on the
inside is a whole different matter. There the best protection is urethane
foam above the water line and tar below.

Wish more people did that. I've seen steel hulls with everything below
the cabin sole foamed in, and it seems to essentially trap moisture
and makes a nice damp sponge...with predictable results.

Can you coal tar the entire interior hull and then foam waterline to
hull joint? In other words, will ureathane foam stick to tarred steel?
And is there any benefit to this?

R.