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AHA! See? Now maybe you "get" the reason why so many of the volunteers
said,
"Thanks but no thanks, bye."

swatcop wrote:
Good. Then they shouldn't be there. Employ someone who is able to follow the
rules and comply with the screening process.

There you go... 'employ'

Thanks for spending more of our tax money, so that you can be a bullying asshole
with your subordinates as well as any average citizen that has the bad luck to
catch your eye.


... if there were no stupid people there would be less
crime).

But there would still be small souled men who enjoy putting down others when
they can get away with it, and of course they gravitate to any job where they
can indulge in that. Look in a mirror, you'll see what I mean.

DSK

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A mind is a terrible thing to waste. heheh

-W

"swatcop" wrote in message news:yFZNb.5919


Either we're reading two entirely separate things, or you've got a serious
reading disability. That or your hallucinogenic drugs are making you see
things that aren't there. In either case, you're really beginning to bore
the hell out of me. I'm getting tired of explaining and re-explaining what
I
post to you. Nobody else has seemed to have any trouble understanding what
I
say, just you. You know, there are remedial adult classes available at
most
colleges. Why don't you try one.

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"swatcop" wrote in message
m...

I'm playing both sides of this discussion because moderation is usually the
best way. So:

Did you ever read the novel "1984"?

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"swatcop" wrote in message
...

You know, there are remedial adult classes available at most
colleges. Why don't you try one.

Either there are two people who've used the nickname "swatcop" here in the
past month, or you're having woman problems, because you don't sound like
the same mellow guy who was thanking almost everyone for marine law
enforcement suggestions a month ago.

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"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:02:55 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


Of course, I just had 3 enormous oatmeal cookies and sugar shock may be
keeping me from seeing the point. That was a disclaimer. Be gentle with
me.
:-)

Oh-oh...better put oatmeal cookies on the "illegal drugs" list. Drug-user!
Evil Cookie-head! Jail him! Fingerprint him! :)

Lloyd

Hey....be quiet. I saw oatmeal cookies for sale all over Canada on my last
visit. The place is a veritable stoner's paradise. Especially Ottawa.

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"Charles" wrote in message

This is a very troubling statement from someone who has represented
themselves as being in law inforcement.

If it is a troubling statement, it ought to be troubling regardless of the
speaker. The fact is that active duty military members are subject to the
UCMJ as well as (and sometime instead of) civil law. In some areas the
standards and procedures of the UCMJ appear somewhat harsh in comparison to
civilian criminal law.

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He's the same guy. He's frustrated because apparantly his sparring partner
speaks a totally different dialect of English.

-W

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"swatcop" wrote in message
...

You know, there are remedial adult classes available at most
colleges. Why don't you try one.

Either there are two people who've used the nickname "swatcop" here in
the
past month, or you're having woman problems, because you don't sound like
the same mellow guy who was thanking almost everyone for marine law
enforcement suggestions a month ago.

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Yeah. I think it's English versus Kremlin. Guess which is which.

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:xe1Ob.72761$5V2.77265@attbi_s53...
He's the same guy. He's frustrated because apparantly his sparring
partner
speaks a totally different dialect of English.

-W

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"swatcop" wrote in message
...

You know, there are remedial adult classes available at most
colleges. Why don't you try one.

Either there are two people who've used the nickname "swatcop" here in
the
past month, or you're having woman problems, because you don't sound
like
the same mellow guy who was thanking almost everyone for marine law
enforcement suggestions a month ago.

Coast Guard Auxiliary and Homeland Security
 

I was looking at some photos of Coast Guard vessels. I'm puzzled, why do
Aids to Navigation vessels like the Juniper Class buoy tenders have
"provision for 25mm Bushmaster" chain gun? That's a lot of gun! I'd bet
every one of them is armed with the 25mm and then some, right now. I've
seen other buoy tenders, icebreakers and tugs with 12.7mm machine guns
and/or 7.62mm machine guns as well. Keep in mind these ships were
commissioned before the Department of Homeland Security in most cases.
The Coast Guard while having some military and law enforcement missions
was under the Department of Transportation. I look at a buoy and think
why would you need to shoot it?
I can see that those non-military and non-law enforcement
responsibilities returned to the DOT as civil service jobs at some
point, but would that mean these boats would have to become unarmed?
They don't let other civil service employees have weapons. Where does
that leave the Auxiliary? I wonder if it will end up becoming
militarized at some point. I hope not. It would be an easy step for
someone to take in Washington, kinda like a floating militia.
The job of the Coast Guard has become very complex. Perhaps there are
elements that should remain as military units and some that should be
pushed away from their military ties?

Capt Lou wrote:
When the Coast Guard was transfered into the Department of Homeland Security,
so was the Coast Guard Auxiliary. Now all auxiliarists have to be
fingerprinted, and if they want to volunteer as crew or for other jobs, they
have to pass a security background and criminal check. I know an auxiliarist
friend of mine who had long hair and was told to cut it. Does anyone feel that
the government is going a little overboard for civilian citizen volunteers?
What about the auxiliarist who has been volunteering for the past 15 or 20
years? Is he or she a security threat? Maybe it is time to consider the U.S.
Power Squadron and tell the USCGAUX enough is enough! I hear that 60% of the
auxiliarists in my division will not submit to the fingerprinting. That's a lot
of dues paying members dropping out!

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 07:00:56 GMT, Hewel
wrote:

I was looking at some photos of Coast Guard vessels. I'm puzzled, why do
Aids to Navigation vessels like the Juniper Class buoy tenders have
"provision for 25mm Bushmaster" chain gun? That's a lot of gun! I'd bet
every one of them is armed with the 25mm and then some, right now. I've
seen other buoy tenders, icebreakers and tugs with 12.7mm machine guns
and/or 7.62mm machine guns as well. Keep in mind these ships were
commissioned before the Department of Homeland Security in most cases.
The Coast Guard while having some military and law enforcement missions
was under the Department of Transportation. I look at a buoy and think
why would you need to shoot it?
I can see that those non-military and non-law enforcement
responsibilities returned to the DOT as civil service jobs at some
point, but would that mean these boats would have to become unarmed?
They don't let other civil service employees have weapons. Where does
that leave the Auxiliary? I wonder if it will end up becoming
militarized at some point. I hope not. It would be an easy step for
someone to take in Washington, kinda like a floating militia.
The job of the Coast Guard has become very complex. Perhaps there are
elements that should remain as military units and some that should be
pushed away from their military ties?

our charter as the auxiliary comes from congress. it would, literally,
take an act of congress to militarize the auxiliary. although the aux.
was armed during ww2, there is no plan to do so now and it's unclear
how it would be done.

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