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Coast Guard Auxiliary and Homeland Security
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Coast Guard Auxiliary and Homeland Security
On 15 Jan 2004 15:42:53 -0800, (Mad
Dog Dave) wrote: (UglyDan®©?) wrote in message ... (Bob)wrote . as to the security check, we auxiliarists DO have access to secure/secret info. those who think that, because we've volunteers, we DON'T have access, is kidding himself. Hey Aux Sparks! You're not doing your shipmates any favors with statements like that, and the active duty folks are very happy we are doing this. it's protection for them, too. Not any more, UD http://community.webtv.net/capuglyda...inUglyDansJack We've been annoyed several times by power squad and coast guard aux types who want to come aboard and sniff around our little boat. It is so bad at some of the places we dock that as soon as we see a fellow with a clipboard coming our way, we shout NO! No one knows what this means. What is 'sniffing around'. USCG Aux has no law enforcement authority. We don't 'sniff around' boats since there's no authority for us to do so. --------------------------- to see who "wf3h" is, go to "qrz.com" and enter 'wf3h' in the field |
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Coast Guard Auxiliary and Homeland Security
incidentally, info on the need for secret clearance in the auxiliary
is public info at the DIRAUX website. Let me back up what wf3h is saying.... I was a Yeoman 2nd Class in the Coast Guard back in the early/mid 80's and worked for DIRAUX 9th District Eastern Region in Buffalo, NY. I admired the CG Aux and had a great time with them. They are a hardworking bunch of volunteers! They don't have any MLE authority over anyone, but they do assist in some of the CG Ops centers and help out anywhere they are needed. Bravo Zulu, USCG Aux. I miss working with you guys!! Butch Ammon YN1, USCG (Ret). |
Coast Guard Auxiliary and Homeland Security
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:pHxNb.946 Of course it's not a written policy. But, it's a major source of fodder for comedians, movie makers and quite a few former soldiers who know that the military mentality is often centered around nonsensical layers of red tape and inefficiency. The "...military mentality...". Exactly what is that? An example of exactly the kind of bias that some people find oh, so clever and sophisticated, but aggravates the bejesus out of me. You will find as much or probably more rigidity and tunnel-vision in *any* large bureaucracy [such as the Dept. of the Interior, or Dept. HHS, for example] without nearly the corresponding skill and benefit to our society as a whole. And yet, people still love to toss out the derogatory lines about the military. Sad, really. |
Coast Guard Auxiliary and Homeland Security
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:pHxNb.946 Of course it's not a written policy. But, it's a major source of fodder for comedians, movie makers and quite a few former soldiers who know that the military mentality is often centered around nonsensical layers of red tape and inefficiency. The "...military mentality...". Exactly what is that? An example of exactly the kind of bias that some people find oh, so clever and sophisticated, but aggravates the bejesus out of me. You will find as much or probably more rigidity and tunnel-vision in *any* large bureaucracy [such as the Dept. of the Interior, or Dept. HHS, for example] without nearly the corresponding skill and benefit to our society as a whole. And yet, people still love to toss out the derogatory lines about the military. Sad, really. The "mentality" would sound like fiction if I hadn't been hearing about it from my father since I was old enough to understand it. He spent 8 years in the Navy beginning in 1941, flying a Grumman TBF Avenger (torpedo bomber). He and his cohorts used to get flak for using too much small ammo. The pilots' theory was that a little cannon fire caused Japanese ship side gunners to get rattled, which bought the TBF Avengers the 30 seconds they needed to get down nice and low and line up their gifts. The people who kept track of the ammo didn't understand what it meant to be in warrior mode. If the "mentality" exists in other government organizations, it's somewhat less meaningful because it doesn't involve human lives. There's always a place for people who are only comfortable in church committes, where the blame for mistakes is diffused. But, it has no place in the military. |
Coast Guard Auxiliary and Homeland Security
Well we all now know who/what the weak link is!
Just because you have access to the system means you have to be a braggert to the whole world about it? Most of,and I mean most of the CGA I've known are little more than Wannabe Coasties, like AUX Wannabe cops,but lack the maturity, Integrity, and physical capabilities required to be a regular, or even a reservist for that matter. But not to worry Aux Sparks, You can hold your head high, because everytime a regular closes the Comm Center door, You'll never hear the laughter from the other side. Semper Paratus, or in your case Semper Braggipuss. UD http://community.webtv.net/capuglyda...inUglyDansJack |
Coast Guard Auxiliary and Homeland Security
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:8BGNb.1332 If the "mentality" exists in other government organizations, it's somewhat less meaningful because it doesn't involve human lives. There's always a place for people who are only comfortable in church committes, where the blame for mistakes is diffused. But, it has no place in the military. Oh, I've heard the stories, too, from my Dad, and lived the stories in my own experience from 70 to 74, but that doesn't alter the fact that it is simply human nature at work. That's the whole point -- it isn't a "military mentality", its just human nature. If you shoot up all the ammo, the guy whose job it is to hump all the ammo has to work all the more. In the office, if you take a lot of notes, the office supply person has to work more to keep your area resupplied with spiral notebooks or floppies or whatever. People entrenched in a bureaucracy almost always try to steer the activity in such a way as to minimize their workload. That, of course, conflicts with any number of other people who are trying to get something done. |
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