BCITORGB wrote:
Tink opines:
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So we can still look forward to our little chats, about boats and
faith. I prefer the personal approach, to enjoying life. A website
just seems a little cold and impersonal. That is sort of like fixing
something with a ten pound sledge, that needed a more delicate touch!
I
hope some of you can appreciate my more delicate touch, I only use a
five pound sledge!
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I'm confused. What are you trying to say?

frtzw906

It's like this, I appreciate our conversations. The stimulation is
good, and it forces me to consider some issues and how my faith applies
to them in the market place of life. Not that you necessarily get me to
change my mind, or vice versus. But I have to freshen up my faith and
the expression of it. I hope that it has been stimulating to you as
well.

Rest assured that this is one of the main differences I feel between
what I am saying, and what is usually passed off as religion (visa-vis
Ron's approach), and which I believe KMAN and others have such a
viseral reaction too. I am not looking for converts! Let me say that
again, I am not looking for converts!!!! or to get you to join a
church, or give money anywhere to anything or anybody. I could care
less if you ever get babtized, or who you hold hands with, and for how
long.

The scriptures say, some plant, some water, but God gives the increase.
This means to me that I can and should talk about my faith and the hope
I have, but whether you choose to believe me, or not is between you and
God! I do not need you to sign up, show hands, or say anything to me
about what your relationship to God is now, or in the future.

This takes all the pressure off me to get you to convert, and I can
actually accept you as a fellow traveler on the road of life. You like
to paddle, I like to paddle. You ride bikes, I ride bikes. I am sure
that we could find all sorts of areas of similar likes and dislikes.
Some can separate us, some could bring us together, I prefer to find
things that we can mutually agree on.

I want you to know where I stand on the matter of faith, which I expect
you have a pretty good idea, and so now we can go paddle and have a
good time. I won't pull any punches if confronted, but I won't use a 10
lb sledge either.

The passage that I shared with you, was of the Apostle Paul teaching
the Christians in Colossi. Very little of the scriptures is directed
at unbelievers. I do not believe the scriptures were given inorder to
make believers out of unbelivers. If you don't believe the scriptures
are the Word of God, I could try to prove to you with 10,000
scriptures, and it would not make any difference. 99% of Paul's
teaching and of the other Apostles' in the scriptures was directed at
Christians, telling them to straighten up their act. I have big
problems with those who would preach or proselytize using the
scriptures to gain converts, so that they can build bigger churches,
and buy fancier cars and houses and all the other stuff that some do.

Not that I am not suppose to share with you why I believe what I
believe, but only when you ask. I am not trying to prove to you
anything, or to get you to convert, I just share why I believe what I
believe. What you do with it is up to you and God. If you don't do
anything with it for what ever your reason are, those are your reason,
which are not necessarily any of my business unless you choose to share
them with me. That is your choice.

And then we can still work on building your rack, and then go paddling,
and have a good time! With some pizza and beer afterwards! Though I
probably won't hold your hand, or even give you that kiss I've been
threatening you with! Now that's putting it delicately! TnT