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On 12-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:
Form and structure are not dependent on dimension as you naively assume. But that's a claim I've never made. On 9-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote: I am using the term morphology correctly. It is about shape and form, not size. Not according to the only authoritative definition of the word posted so far. On 10-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote: I don't see the word "size" or "dimension" anywhere in here. That's because you're an idiot, ****-brick. [...] morphology inherently includes size as a component of form and structure. You are claiming that morphology is based on dimension even though the definition that you provide does not even contain any reference to dimension. You have claimed that within morphology, you can't have form or structure without dimension. On 10-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote: Thus biometry is an aspect of morphology. I have given many examples of scientists and engineers using morphological characteristics without _any_ reference to dimension. Morphology is _independent_ of dimension. Form and structure are independent of size. It is only when one moves from the study of a class of forms to the study of an individual instance of an entity that one invokes size and hence biometry. The problem is that you can't distinguish between classes of objects and instances of objects. Morphology is about classification and biometry is about measuring an instance of an object independent of its class. Two different activities with two different objectives. They are not the same thing and are not done with the same objective. One is not a subset of the other. It is you that does not understand the slightest thing about morphology and biometry, nor about science. You insist in claiming expertise because you misunderstand a dictionary entry. Why don't you actually _study_ something about the topic instead of continuing to post bull****. You affirm my statement with your discussion of H. florensiensis. And yet at every point up to now you've tried to claim that size is important. You said there have been "no morphological changes in skeletal remains during the entire history of Homo Sapiens." I suggested that, if nothing else, the average height has increased in recorded history. One of the "other things" is, for example, the larger brain case, more complex brain, and "lighter skeletal structure" than earlier forms. All of these are morphological differences, not merely size differences, as your H. florensiensis quote demonstrates. You tried to limit the discussion specifically to H sap., but the issue is larger than that. Yes - you tried to change the topic. Every time you get stuck, you try to change the topic instead of address the facts presented. There are morphological differences because they are in different classes. Each is a separate species, dickhead. Within a single species, changes in structure are extremely slow to occur - my point and one you don't want to hear. Simple logic proves it: You prove nothing. See above. If you want to prove this, try finding a reference that agrees with your ridiculous claims. Not quite, you merely misunderstand the point of the debate. No, I'm addressing the fact that _you_ do not bother with facts and that _you_ will post anything that comes to your mind even if it nothing but bull****. Stop changing the topic. You are nothing but a bull****ter. Mike |
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