in article , BCITORGB at
wrote on 3/10/05 9:02 PM:

Weiser says:
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Sorry, but you don't get off the hook by claiming hyperbole at this
juncture. Your clear claim, in context, was that one could buy a
"wicked
assault weapon" at the corner convenience store with no more scrutiny
or
difficulty than that of buying a pack of gum. That's a lie. You did not
qualify your statement by saying that it was your opinion that guns are
too
easy to acquire at the time. Now that you've been caught, you're trying
to
backpedal.

You could just admit that you were wrong.
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In this context, there is nothing wrong with stating that a particular
comment, made earlier, was hyperbole. Why can you not accept that.
Could it be because, when you make such statements, you don't have the
jam to just say "hey, it was a figure of speech" or "I exaggerated to
make a point" or "It was poetic licence". No, you just keep defending
your dumb-assed statements. I think everyone following this thread
understood perfectly well what KMAN intended with his statement. Sure,
it was a mild case of hyperbole, but he got his point across. Why don't
you deal with the larger issue instead of nit-picking.

frtzw906

What's particularly silly here is the idea that I would try to "fool" Scotty
"Gun Nut" Weiser regarding the process of purchasing a gun. Obviously
(OBVIOUSLY) I knew that Scotty would be familiar with what it takes to buy a
gun, since he brags about his own guns on a routine basis. I was must
pulling his chain about how easy it is to get a gun (and it IS pretty damned
easy!) by comparing it to buying gum. It's more like renting a tuxedo ;-)

A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:

What's particularly silly here is the idea that I would try to "fool" Scotty
"Gun Nut" Weiser regarding the process of purchasing a gun. Obviously
(OBVIOUSLY) I knew that Scotty would be familiar with what it takes to buy a
gun, since he brags about his own guns on a routine basis. I was must
pulling his chain about how easy it is to get a gun (and it IS pretty damned
easy!) by comparing it to buying gum. It's more like renting a tuxedo ;-)

The question is not what I know, it's what he knows. It's hardly uncommon
for know-nothing hoplophobes to spout anti-gun rhetoric and cite specious
anti-gun information without actually having a clue. It's commonplace for
such people to actually believe the line of crap they are fed by HCI and
other anti-gun groups.

It's my policy to challenge such specious claims whenever I see them,
because it's the best way to fight the "Big Lie" tactic of repeating a lie
often enough that it takes on the patina of truth.

But it's still a lie.
--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

"Scott Weiser" wrote in message
...
A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:

What's particularly silly here is the idea that I would try to "fool"
Scotty
"Gun Nut" Weiser regarding the process of purchasing a gun. Obviously
(OBVIOUSLY) I knew that Scotty would be familiar with what it takes to
buy a
gun, since he brags about his own guns on a routine basis. I was must
pulling his chain about how easy it is to get a gun (and it IS pretty
damned
easy!) by comparing it to buying gum. It's more like renting a tuxedo ;-)

The question is not what I know, it's what he knows. It's hardly uncommon
for know-nothing hoplophobes to spout anti-gun rhetoric and cite specious
anti-gun information without actually having a clue.

So you actually thought that I believed the guns are in a rack on the
counter next to the gum and you just buy one?

Give it, Scotty, this is totally disingenuous and you are acting like a
petty fool.

On 11-Mar-2005, "KMAN" wrote:

So you actually thought that I believed the guns are in a rack on the
counter next to the gum and you just buy one?

Before you give up on how trivial it is to buy a gun, check into
the lack or regulations or rules on private sales in some states.

Mike

"Michael Daly" wrote in message
news
On 11-Mar-2005, "KMAN" wrote:

So you actually thought that I believed the guns are in a rack on the
counter next to the gum and you just buy one?

Before you give up on how trivial it is to buy a gun, check into
the lack or regulations or rules on private sales in some states.

Mike

I know, that was my whole point...that is too easy.

A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:


"Michael Daly" wrote in message
news
On 11-Mar-2005, "KMAN" wrote:

So you actually thought that I believed the guns are in a rack on the
counter next to the gum and you just buy one?

Before you give up on how trivial it is to buy a gun, check into
the lack or regulations or rules on private sales in some states.

Mike

I know, that was my whole point...that is too easy.

You'd still be wrong.

While one does not have to file a form 4477 or have a background check in
most states, it's still illegal to sell a gun to a disqualified person, even
in a private sale.

--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

"Scott Weiser" wrote in message
...
A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:


"Michael Daly" wrote in message
news
On 11-Mar-2005, "KMAN" wrote:

So you actually thought that I believed the guns are in a rack on the
counter next to the gum and you just buy one?

Before you give up on how trivial it is to buy a gun, check into
the lack or regulations or rules on private sales in some states.

Mike

I know, that was my whole point...that is too easy.

You'd still be wrong.

While one does not have to file a form 4477 or have a background check in
most states, it's still illegal to sell a gun to a disqualified person,
even
in a private sale.

It's too easy to own a gun. I'd recommend about a 50 year waiting period,
and then, only if you were certifiably non-nutty.

On 11-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

it's still illegal to sell a gun to a disqualified person, even
in a private sale.

A technicality of no consequence to those that firmly believe
that the constitution protects their right to have guns.

Mike

A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:


"Scott Weiser" wrote in message
...
A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:

What's particularly silly here is the idea that I would try to "fool"
Scotty
"Gun Nut" Weiser regarding the process of purchasing a gun. Obviously
(OBVIOUSLY) I knew that Scotty would be familiar with what it takes to
buy a
gun, since he brags about his own guns on a routine basis. I was must
pulling his chain about how easy it is to get a gun (and it IS pretty
damned
easy!) by comparing it to buying gum. It's more like renting a tuxedo ;-)

The question is not what I know, it's what he knows. It's hardly uncommon
for know-nothing hoplophobes to spout anti-gun rhetoric and cite specious
anti-gun information without actually having a clue.

So you actually thought that I believed the guns are in a rack on the
counter next to the gum and you just buy one?

It would not be an unprecedented show of ignorance. You are free to simply
admit that you are wrong.


Give it, Scotty, this is totally disingenuous and you are acting like a
petty fool.

Don't make stupid, overbroad proclamations and expect to get away with it
while I'm around.

--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

"Scott Weiser" wrote in message
...
A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:


"Scott Weiser" wrote in message
...
A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:

What's particularly silly here is the idea that I would try to "fool"
Scotty
"Gun Nut" Weiser regarding the process of purchasing a gun. Obviously
(OBVIOUSLY) I knew that Scotty would be familiar with what it takes to
buy a
gun, since he brags about his own guns on a routine basis. I was must
pulling his chain about how easy it is to get a gun (and it IS pretty
damned
easy!) by comparing it to buying gum. It's more like renting a tuxedo
;-)

The question is not what I know, it's what he knows. It's hardly
uncommon
for know-nothing hoplophobes to spout anti-gun rhetoric and cite
specious
anti-gun information without actually having a clue.

So you actually thought that I believed the guns are in a rack on the
counter next to the gum and you just buy one?

It would not be an unprecedented show of ignorance. You are free to simply
admit that you are wrong.

I'll ask again.

When you read my comment about buying guns and buying a pack of gum, did you
honestly believe that I was intending to communicate that there is in
reality no difference in the process between buying gum and buying a gun?

Yes or no.

Give it, Scotty, this is totally disingenuous and you are acting like a
petty fool.

Don't make stupid, overbroad proclamations and expect to get away with it
while I'm around.

You have gone from acting like a petty fool to being a petty fool.