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in article t, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 11:08 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:12 PM:


snip..

as stupid and ignorant as
ever, but
it's not your fault I didn't work the question very well. So,
unlike you, I
did not take the scumbag route and refuse to apologize.
==================
LOL No, you dishonestly took the route of apologizing to
soembody else, not to me.


It was an apology to you, but apparently you were confused
about that.

===================
LOL In a post to somebody else, and never addressing me. OK, if
that's your definition of an honest apology, so be it, liarman.
You still seem to be claiming that no one dies waiting for
treatment though.


It could happen in any health care system. When my wife got sick in Miami
with kidney stones and was writhing in agony with an as yet undiagnosed
problem, she was initially refused treatment because the administrator could
not get through on the phone to the insurance company.

I haven't seen any evidence that makes me long for a different type of
health care system. Every Canadian knows that there are problems with
certain types of specialized tests and providing service to remote areas. We
all want to improve those situations and there is a national will to do so.

snip tired old crap

You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false
accusation.
================
No, I have not.

You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I
never
said that.
You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing to
insist that I
did.
=====================\\\
Yes, you did, and I showed you where and how, liarman


You showed part of a quote where I said "No one is waiting for
treatment"
which was a response to your babble about a particular group of
people in
Newfoundland.

======================
that's what you claimed, liarman.


I have not lied about anything.

This is the only reference you have made in support of your false
accusation:

====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article t, rick at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years
for treatment.


No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm responding to your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your assertion that the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment. Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported by one of the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.

This is the only reference you have made to anything I have said on the
subject, and yet you continue to lie about it and insist that I claimed no
one in Canada ever waits for treatment.

Stop being a scumbag and apologize. You know I never said any such thing,
nor do I believe any such thing.

Even the most twisted interpretation could not see that quote
as evidence
that I stated or believe that no one in Canada waits for
treatment. It is
only your deliberate dishonesty as a liar and a scumbag that
makes it
possible for you to insist upon what you know to be untrue.
=====================

It has been shown that you did fool, many times now. that you
have now admitted your lie has already been determined.


I have not lied about anything.

This is the only reference you have made in support of your false
accusation:

====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article t, rick at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years
for treatment.


No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm responding to your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your assertion that the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment. Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported by one of the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.

This is the only reference you have made to anything I have said on the
subject, and yet you continue to lie about it and insist that I claimed no
one in Canada ever waits for treatment.

Stop being a scumbag and apologize. You know I never said any such thing,
nor do I believe any such thing.


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"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article t,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 11:08 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:12 PM:


snip..

as stupid and ignorant as
ever, but
it's not your fault I didn't work the question very well.
So,
unlike you, I
did not take the scumbag route and refuse to apologize.
==================
LOL No, you dishonestly took the route of apologizing to
soembody else, not to me.

It was an apology to you, but apparently you were confused
about that.

===================
LOL In a post to somebody else, and never addressing me. OK,
if
that's your definition of an honest apology, so be it,
liarman.
You still seem to be claiming that no one dies waiting for
treatment though.


It could happen in any health care system. When my wife got
sick in Miami
with kidney stones and was writhing in agony with an as yet
undiagnosed
problem, she was initially refused treatment because the
administrator could
not get through on the phone to the insurance company.

I haven't seen any evidence that makes me long for a different
type of
health care system. Every Canadian knows that there are
problems with
certain types of specialized tests and providing service to
remote areas. We
all want to improve those situations and there is a national
will to do so.

============================
Willful ignorance. Thanks agian for proving you want to remain
ignorant...



snip tired old crap

You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false
accusation.
================
No, I have not.

You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I
never
said that.
You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing to
insist that I
did.
=====================\\\
Yes, you did, and I showed you where and how, liarman

You showed part of a quote where I said "No one is waiting
for
treatment"
which was a response to your babble about a particular group
of
people in
Newfoundland.

======================
that's what you claimed, liarman.


I have not lied about anything.

This is the only reference you have made in support of your
false
accusation:

====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article
t, rick at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the
medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility
in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years
for treatment.


No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of
scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for
non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm
responding to your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your
assertion that the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment.
Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported by
one of the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a
statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.

======================
No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is about
your ignorant claims that because a poor person in the US may not
be able to get to the doctor right away, then they are 'waiting'
for treatment. I pointed out that it wasn't the convenience of
the system that is making them wait, as in Canada, but their own.
You then proceeded to claim that NO one is waiting for treatment
in Canada. Youlied then, and you are lying now about your lie.
You have already admitted that this was in error. So, why not
move on and refute that people are dying in these wait lines that
you now agree too.



This is the only reference you have made to anything I have
said on the
subject, and yet you continue to lie about it and insist that I
claimed no
one in Canada ever waits for treatment.

================
Because you did, as I have again explained to you.


Stop being a scumbag and apologize. You know I never said any
such thing,
nor do I believe any such thing.

================
I've no need to, liarman.



Even the most twisted interpretation could not see that quote
as evidence
that I stated or believe that no one in Canada waits for
treatment. It is
only your deliberate dishonesty as a liar and a scumbag that
makes it
possible for you to insist upon what you know to be untrue.
=====================

It has been shown that you did fool, many times now. that you
have now admitted your lie has already been determined.


I have not lied about anything.

================
Yes, you have. And continue to do so, liarman.


This is the only reference you have made in support of your
false
accusation:

===============
Too many drugs last night, liarman? Seeing and thinking double?


====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article
t, rick at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the
medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility
in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years
for treatment.


No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of
scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for
non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm
responding to your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your
assertion that the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment.
Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported by
one of the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a
statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.

======================
No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is about
your ignorant claims that because a poor person in the US may not
be able to get to the doctor right away, then they are 'waiting'
for treatment. I pointed out that it wasn't the convenience of
the system that is making them wait, as in Canada, but their own.
You then proceeded to claim that NO one is waiting for treatment
in Canada. Youlied then, and you are lying now about your lie.
You have already admitted that this was in error. So, why not
move on and refute that people are dying in these wait lines that
you now agree too.


This is the only reference you have made to anything I have
said on the
subject, and yet you continue to lie about it and insist that I
claimed no
one in Canada ever waits for treatment.

Stop being a scumbag and apologize. You know I never said any
such thing,
nor do I believe any such thing.

======================
You may not believe it now, because the proof has been given.
But, you did say it, liarman, just as you have proven above.





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"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article t, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 11:08 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:12 PM:


snip..

as stupid and ignorant as
ever, but
it's not your fault I didn't work the question very well. So,
unlike you, I
did not take the scumbag route and refuse to apologize.
==================
LOL No, you dishonestly took the route of apologizing to
soembody else, not to me.

It was an apology to you, but apparently you were confused
about that.
===================
LOL In a post to somebody else, and never addressing me. OK, if
that's your definition of an honest apology, so be it, liarman.
You still seem to be claiming that no one dies waiting for
treatment though.


It could happen in any health care system. When my wife got sick in Miami
with kidney stones and was writhing in agony with an as yet undiagnosed
problem, she was initially refused treatment because the administrator
could
not get through on the phone to the insurance company.

I haven't seen any evidence that makes me long for a different type of
health care system. Every Canadian knows that there are problems with
certain types of specialized tests and providing service to remote areas.
We
all want to improve those situations and there is a national will to do
so.

============================
Willful ignorance.


Will to do better. Ignorance infers not knowing about the problems involved,
and I do.

snip tired old crap

You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false
accusation.
================
No, I have not.

You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I
never
said that.
You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing to
insist that I
did.
=====================\\\
Yes, you did, and I showed you where and how, liarman

You showed part of a quote where I said "No one is waiting for
treatment"
which was a response to your babble about a particular group of
people in
Newfoundland.
======================
that's what you claimed, liarman.


I have not lied about anything.

This is the only reference you have made in support of your false
accusation:

====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article t, rick at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years
for treatment.


No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm responding to
your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your assertion that
the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment. Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported by one of the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a statement that
no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.

======================
No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is about your
ignorant claims that because a poor person in the US may not be able to
get to the doctor right away, then they are 'waiting' for treatment. I
pointed out that it wasn't the convenience of the system that is making
them wait, as in Canada, but their own. You then proceeded to claim that
NO one is waiting for treatment in Canada.


Where did I say that? Quit being so obscure. If I said "no one is waiting
for treatment in Canada" post that quote with the full context so it can be
explored.

You've just spent several days insisting that my quote about Newfoundland
proved your case, now you are dropping that (duh) and moving on to some
other accusation. Have some guts. Stop being a scumbag. You were wrong, just
apologize and move on. But now, you are too big of a scumbag and a coward.

snip same old crap


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"KMAN" wrote in message
.. .

"rick" wrote in message
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"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
t, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 11:08 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick
at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:12 PM:


snip..

as stupid and ignorant as
ever, but
it's not your fault I didn't work the question very well.
So,
unlike you, I
did not take the scumbag route and refuse to apologize.
==================
LOL No, you dishonestly took the route of apologizing to
soembody else, not to me.

It was an apology to you, but apparently you were confused
about that.
===================
LOL In a post to somebody else, and never addressing me.
OK, if
that's your definition of an honest apology, so be it,
liarman.
You still seem to be claiming that no one dies waiting for
treatment though.

It could happen in any health care system. When my wife got
sick in Miami
with kidney stones and was writhing in agony with an as yet
undiagnosed
problem, she was initially refused treatment because the
administrator could
not get through on the phone to the insurance company.

I haven't seen any evidence that makes me long for a
different type of
health care system. Every Canadian knows that there are
problems with
certain types of specialized tests and providing service to
remote areas. We
all want to improve those situations and there is a national
will to do so.

============================
Willful ignorance.


Will to do better. Ignorance infers not knowing about the
problems involved, and I do.

snip tired old crap

You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false
accusation.
================
No, I have not.

You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I
never
said that.
You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing
to
insist that I
did.
=====================\\\
Yes, you did, and I showed you where and how, liarman

You showed part of a quote where I said "No one is waiting
for
treatment"
which was a response to your babble about a particular
group of
people in
Newfoundland.
======================
that's what you claimed, liarman.

I have not lied about anything.

This is the only reference you have made in support of your
false
accusation:

====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article
t, rick at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the
medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical
facility in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2
years
for treatment.

No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type
of scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for
non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm
responding to your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your
assertion that the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment.
Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported
by one of the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a
statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.

======================
No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is about
your ignorant claims that because a poor person in the US may
not be able to get to the doctor right away, then they are
'waiting' for treatment. I pointed out that it wasn't the
convenience of the system that is making them wait, as in
Canada, but their own. You then proceeded to claim that NO one
is waiting for treatment in Canada.


Where did I say that? Quit being so obscure. If I said "no one
is waiting for treatment in Canada" post that quote with the
full context so it can be explored.

=========================
LOL YOU just posted the context fool. Your statement was not in
the post about the boy in newfoundland.
It was in response by me to your nonsense about 'poor' people in
the US not getting TO the hospital for treatment.
I appropratly showed you that their convenince in getting to the
doctor does not equate with the systematic wait for treatment
recieved by mnay Canadains. THAT is where you made you ignorant
statement about no one waiting for treatment in Canada, liarman.
You did not make it at the time I posted the link about the boyi
Nfld.



You've just spent several days insisting that my quote about
Newfoundland proved your case, now you are dropping that (duh)
and moving on to some other accusation. Have some guts. Stop
being a scumbag. You were wrong, just apologize and move on.
But now, you are too big of a scumbag and a coward.
====================

No, fool. I'm not. You are the one that is keeping this going so
that you don't have to answer about the rest of your stupidity
and lies.

snip same old crap



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"KMAN" wrote in message
.. .

"rick" wrote in message
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"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article t, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 11:08 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:12 PM:


snip..

as stupid and ignorant as
ever, but
it's not your fault I didn't work the question very well. So,
unlike you, I
did not take the scumbag route and refuse to apologize.
==================
LOL No, you dishonestly took the route of apologizing to
soembody else, not to me.

It was an apology to you, but apparently you were confused
about that.
===================
LOL In a post to somebody else, and never addressing me. OK, if
that's your definition of an honest apology, so be it, liarman.
You still seem to be claiming that no one dies waiting for
treatment though.

It could happen in any health care system. When my wife got sick in
Miami
with kidney stones and was writhing in agony with an as yet undiagnosed
problem, she was initially refused treatment because the administrator
could
not get through on the phone to the insurance company.

I haven't seen any evidence that makes me long for a different type of
health care system. Every Canadian knows that there are problems with
certain types of specialized tests and providing service to remote
areas. We
all want to improve those situations and there is a national will to do
so.
============================
Willful ignorance.


Will to do better. Ignorance infers not knowing about the problems
involved, and I do.

snip tired old crap

You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false
accusation.
================
No, I have not.

You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I
never
said that.
You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing to
insist that I
did.
=====================\\\
Yes, you did, and I showed you where and how, liarman

You showed part of a quote where I said "No one is waiting for
treatment"
which was a response to your babble about a particular group of
people in
Newfoundland.
======================
that's what you claimed, liarman.

I have not lied about anything.

This is the only reference you have made in support of your false
accusation:

====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article t, rick
at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years
for treatment.

No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of scan in
a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm responding to
your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your assertion
that the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment. Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported by one of
the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a statement that
no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.
======================
No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is about your
ignorant claims that because a poor person in the US may not be able to
get to the doctor right away, then they are 'waiting' for treatment. I
pointed out that it wasn't the convenience of the system that is making
them wait, as in Canada, but their own. You then proceeded to claim that
NO one is waiting for treatment in Canada.


Where did I say that? Quit being so obscure. If I said "no one is waiting
for treatment in Canada" post that quote with the full context so it can
be explored.

=========================
LOL YOU just posted the context fool.


Oh, I see, so you are only referring to the discussion about Newfoundland.

Thanks for finally confirming that this is all about your being a scumbag
and liar and deliberately making a false accusation and being unwilling to
admit it.




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======================
that's what you claimed, liarman.

I have not lied about anything.

This is the only reference you have made in support of your
false
accusation:

====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article
t, rick
at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the
medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical
facility in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2
years
for treatment.

No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type
of scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for
non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm
responding to your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your
assertion that the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment.
Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported
by one of the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a
statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.
======================
No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is
about your ignorant claims that because a poor person in the
US may not be able to get to the doctor right away, then
they are 'waiting' for treatment. I pointed out that it
wasn't the convenience of the system that is making them
wait, as in Canada, but their own. You then proceeded to
claim that NO one is waiting for treatment in Canada.

Where did I say that? Quit being so obscure. If I said "no
one is waiting for treatment in Canada" post that quote with
the full context so it can be explored.

=========================
LOL YOU just posted the context fool.


Oh, I see, so you are only referring to the discussion about
Newfoundland.

=====================
LOL You are that stupid, aren't you, liarman? No, the
discussion about Nfld was in a previous post.




Thanks for finally confirming that this is all about your being
a scumbag and liar and deliberately making a false accusation
and being unwilling to admit it. ==========================

ROTFLMAO Only a totally dishonest lair could come up with bit of
idiocy, liarman. Thanks for proving how much you HAVE to lie,
liarman..





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