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in article , rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 2:12 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article t,
rick at
wrote on 3/4/05 10:30 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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"Tinkerntom" wrote in message

snip...


I understand what you said! The rest of the world
understands
what you
said! The only one who will not accept what you meant, and
modified,
and clarified 25 times, is rick, and he may never choose to
acknowledge
your first apology, or the modification of your second
"declarative"
statement. That may mean that he is not a nice guy with
civil
manners!
So what, the longer you continue with him, the lower into
the
mud you
sink. It is up to you whether you choose to get out of the
mud!

Unless I am having fun with it Tinkerntom, and not actually
on
the verge of a nervous breakdown because some twit has a hard
on against Canada :-)
=====================
ROTFLMAO What a hoot!! Where have I ever said that fool?


I really don't know what your problem is, that much is true.

==========================
Actually, you've proven you know very little about anything at
all, liarman...



I'd
bet I spend far more time in Canada than you do in the states.
It's you that has proven you hate of anything US, and your
unnatural devotion to anything Canadian despite its cost in
Candaian lives.


I was born in Evanston, Illinois. If not for the large number
of "more guns,
more jesus" crowd, I might like to live in the US again. I love
NYC and
think it is one of the greatest places on earth.

I fully understand the trade-offs in Canadian health care. Like
a lot of
Canadians I'm advocating for even more resources for our health
care system,
and it is happening, although more slowly than I would like.
But I much
prefer what we have to a system where poor people and/or
minorities get
inferior treatment to rich and/or white people.

===========================
Really? Some of the sites I read talk about a systenm in Canada
that isn't always seen as 'fair' to all either.


Not the Frasier Institute again I hope! LOL. That's sort of asking the KKK
for information on immigration policies.

But yes, there are concerns that the universality of the system is eroding,
and I would agree with that. But there seems to be a lot of will to turn
that around, and I think that will be the direction of things. The vast
majority of Canadians don't want to live in country where something as basic
as health care becomes the domain of the priveleged.

snip tired old crap

FYI, the above is the sort of thing that would be/is interesting to discuss.

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in article et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:44 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article ,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 2:12 AM:


snip



But I much
prefer what we have to a system where poor people and/or
minorities get
inferior treatment to rich and/or white people.
===========================
Really? Some of the sites I read talk about a systenm in
Canada
that isn't always seen as 'fair' to all either.


Not the Frasier Institute again I hope! LOL. That's sort of
asking the KKK
for information on immigration policies.

===================
No fool, there are many sites I have found out that discuss the
problems of your health care system.



But yes, there are concerns that the universality of the system
is eroding,
and I would agree with that. But there seems to be a lot of
will to turn
that around, and I think that will be the direction of things.
The vast
majority of Canadians don't want to live in country where
something as basic
as health care becomes the domain of the priveleged.

======================
Yet you are getting some of that, dispite your wishes.



snip tired old crap

FYI, the above is the sort of thing that would be/is
interesting to discuss.

==================
Not until you admit the rest of your lies about wait lines in
Canada.


No lies have been told.

You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false accusation. You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I never said that.
You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing to insist that I
did.

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"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article
et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:44 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 2:12 AM:


snip



But I much
prefer what we have to a system where poor people and/or
minorities get
inferior treatment to rich and/or white people.
===========================
Really? Some of the sites I read talk about a systenm in
Canada
that isn't always seen as 'fair' to all either.

Not the Frasier Institute again I hope! LOL. That's sort of
asking the KKK
for information on immigration policies.

===================
No fool, there are many sites I have found out that discuss
the
problems of your health care system.



But yes, there are concerns that the universality of the
system
is eroding,
and I would agree with that. But there seems to be a lot of
will to turn
that around, and I think that will be the direction of
things.
The vast
majority of Canadians don't want to live in country where
something as basic
as health care becomes the domain of the priveleged.

======================
Yet you are getting some of that, dispite your wishes.



snip tired old crap

FYI, the above is the sort of thing that would be/is
interesting to discuss.

==================
Not until you admit the rest of your lies about wait lines in
Canada.


No lies have been told.

=====================
Not by me. You on the other hand apparently continue to claim
people do not die waiting for treatment.
Why do you insist on being so willfully ignorant, liarman?



You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false
accusation.

====================
Nope.


You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I never
said that.

==================
Yes, you did, and I showed you where and how, liarman.


You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing to
insist that I
did.

======================
Yes, you are both, liarman...




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in article et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:14 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:44 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 2:12 AM:


snip



But I much
prefer what we have to a system where poor people and/or
minorities get
inferior treatment to rich and/or white people.
===========================
Really? Some of the sites I read talk about a systenm in
Canada
that isn't always seen as 'fair' to all either.

Not the Frasier Institute again I hope! LOL. That's sort of
asking the KKK
for information on immigration policies.
===================
No fool, there are many sites I have found out that discuss
the
problems of your health care system.



But yes, there are concerns that the universality of the
system
is eroding,
and I would agree with that. But there seems to be a lot of
will to turn
that around, and I think that will be the direction of
things.
The vast
majority of Canadians don't want to live in country where
something as basic
as health care becomes the domain of the priveleged.
======================
Yet you are getting some of that, dispite your wishes.



snip tired old crap

FYI, the above is the sort of thing that would be/is
interesting to discuss.
==================
Not until you admit the rest of your lies about wait lines in
Canada.


No lies have been told.

=====================


snip tired old crap

You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I never
said that.

==================
Yes, you did, and I showed you where and how, liarman.


You showed part of a quote where I said "No one is waiting for treatment"
which was a response to your babble about a particular group of people in
Newfoundland.

Even the most twisted interpretation could not see that quote as evidence
that I stated or believe that no one in Canada waits for treatment. It is
only your deliberate dishonesty as a liar and a scumbag that makes it
possible for you to insist upon what you know to be untrue.




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"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:14 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:44 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 2:12 AM:


snip



But I much
prefer what we have to a system where poor people and/or
minorities get
inferior treatment to rich and/or white people.
===========================
Really? Some of the sites I read talk about a systenm in
Canada
that isn't always seen as 'fair' to all either.

Not the Frasier Institute again I hope! LOL. That's sort of
asking the KKK
for information on immigration policies.
===================
No fool, there are many sites I have found out that discuss
the
problems of your health care system.



But yes, there are concerns that the universality of the
system
is eroding,
and I would agree with that. But there seems to be a lot of
will to turn
that around, and I think that will be the direction of
things.
The vast
majority of Canadians don't want to live in country where
something as basic
as health care becomes the domain of the priveleged.
======================
Yet you are getting some of that, dispite your wishes.



snip tired old crap

FYI, the above is the sort of thing that would be/is
interesting to discuss.
==================
Not until you admit the rest of your lies about wait lines
in
Canada.

No lies have been told.

=====================


snip tired old crap

You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I
never
said that.

==================
Yes, you did, and I showed you where and how, liarman.


You showed part of a quote where I said "No one is waiting for
treatment"
which was a response to your babble about a particular group of
people in
Newfoundland.

=============
Already been done, liarman. many times...


Even the most twisted interpretation could not see that quote
as evidence
that I stated or believe that no one in Canada waits for
treatment. It is
only your deliberate dishonesty as a liar and a scumbag that
makes it
possible for you to insist upon what you know to be untrue.
=====================

It has been shown that you did fool, many times now. that you
have now admitted your lie has already been determined. Now, how
about the rest of your lies about wait lists, liarman?




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in article , rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 11:05 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:14 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:44 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 2:12 AM:


snip



But I much
prefer what we have to a system where poor people and/or
minorities get
inferior treatment to rich and/or white people.
===========================
Really? Some of the sites I read talk about a systenm in
Canada
that isn't always seen as 'fair' to all either.

Not the Frasier Institute again I hope! LOL. That's sort of
asking the KKK
for information on immigration policies.
===================
No fool, there are many sites I have found out that discuss
the
problems of your health care system.



But yes, there are concerns that the universality of the
system
is eroding,
and I would agree with that. But there seems to be a lot of
will to turn
that around, and I think that will be the direction of
things.
The vast
majority of Canadians don't want to live in country where
something as basic
as health care becomes the domain of the priveleged.
======================
Yet you are getting some of that, dispite your wishes.



snip tired old crap

FYI, the above is the sort of thing that would be/is
interesting to discuss.
==================
Not until you admit the rest of your lies about wait lines
in
Canada.

No lies have been told.
=====================


snip tired old crap

You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I
never
said that.
==================
Yes, you did, and I showed you where and how, liarman.


You showed part of a quote where I said "No one is waiting for
treatment"
which was a response to your babble about a particular group of
people in
Newfoundland.

=============
Already been done, liarman. many times...


I have not lied about anything.

This is the only reference you have made in support of your false
accusation:

====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article t, rick at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years
for treatment.


No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm responding to your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your assertion that the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment. Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported by one of the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.

This is the only reference you have made to anything I have said on the
subject, and yet you continue to lie about it and insist that I claimed no
one in Canada ever waits for treatment.

Stop being a scumbag and apologize. You know I never said any such thing,
nor do I believe any such thing.


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