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A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:
in article , Scott Weiser at wrote on 3/1/05 5:36 PM: A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote: There are lots of communities in the world where no one has a gun. And amazingly, no one gets shot there! Prove it. Show me one community that you can certify does not have a gun in it, and then show me how you can prevent a gun from being brought into that community from outside. I never said some whackjob like yourself couldn't bring a gun into a place with no guns. Thanks for admitting that your utopian argument is nonsense. I'm not making a utopian argument. Of course you are, you're just too ignorant to understand it. And you're trying to evade the issue as well. You said,"There are lots of communities in the world where no one has a gun. And amazingly, no one gets shot there!" You were challenged to supply even ONE example of such a utopian community. You were unable to do so. Your implicit thesis is that if a community doesn't have guns in it, nobody will be shot. The first failure in your logic is the fallacious presumption that just because a community does not have a gun in it NOW, it will never have a gun in it. Your second failure is in assuming that the only way people can be injured, killed or victimized by violent criminals is with a gun. Even in Japan, where guns are tightly restricted, people still get killed. Sometimes with butcher knives, or swords or any number of other weapons...and sometimes with guns. How does that happen, pray tell? How is it that guns are used in Japan to commit crimes? Japan has very strict laws forbidding private ownership of guns, particularly handguns, and yet handgun crimes still occur...and the number is rising. How can that be? Can you explain this dichotomy? Thinking that everyone having a gun is the path to non-violence is beyond utopian, it is evidence of a sick mind. Thinking that the path to non-violence can be walked without a gun is evidence of a sick mind. Unless you LIKE being a martyr to non-violence like Gandhi. If that's what works for you, fine. Me, I'll achieve peace through superior firepower. There's a lot of violent people out there hiding in the bushes alongside your path. Best of luck with your journey. -- Regards, Scott Weiser "I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM © 2005 Scott Weiser |
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