BCITORGB wrote:
Tink says:
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Where is the liberal claim to exclusive right to being charitable.
And
would
that mean the opposite of conservatives. And so we quickly come to a
deadend, by approching from a religious viewpoint, you cannot make
clear distinctions that would separate the issues into distinct and
debatable packages.
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Fair enough. Let's not talk about liberal vs conservative. Let's not
try to define "charitable". Let's keep it at the level of specific
public policy options (and the politicians that advocate them).

Faced with a public policy option, I maintain that you, if you're the
Christian you claim to be, need to ask of that option: "What would
jesus do?" And then, you need to vote for the politician who can best
implement that option.

frtzw906

Fair enough, and yet many issues arise in your question. If I try to
determine my action based on someone elses action, there is an
assumption that I am intimately aware of that person. For example if I
say "What would frtwz do?" and I don't really know frtwz, then I could
not answer how he would respond to a given situation. So for you to
ask, "What would Jesus do?" you assume that I know what Jesus would do.


Now for you to use this approach to support a particular policy there
is also the assumption that you know what Jesus would do in this
particular situation, and that you would be able to determine that my
answer to what would Jesus do is correct or incorrect. Otherwise I
would be able to mislead you as to how Jesus would respond, and you
would not know the difference.

Now if I believe that I know what Jesus would do, and I vote for a
particular politician that I say will implement that option, how can
you then complain about my choice, if you on the other hand have no
basis to question my understanding of what Jesus would do.

You say you are not a religious person, that you do not believe in
Jesus, that you don't know Mim in a personal and intimate way, then how
can you know what He would do, or question what I say He would do. You
can either get to know Him, or not depend on the answer to that
question, "What would Jesus do? Or blindly follow what I say He would
do!

As far as myself, I ask the question all the time in many situations.
For example the other day I told you about pulling people out of the
traffic. First I determine that I did not think that Jesus would leave
them setting out in the traffic. Then I offered them water, and finally
I said I would witness to them. Now I heard the corporate grunt of
horror at my last comment. You were probably OK with the tow and the
water, but witness, this guy is looney. What you fail to understand is
I did not say prosyletize. Witnessing can be something as benigh as
saying that I was glad to help you, can I use my cell phone to call a
tow service for you. In other words going the extra mile, be nice,
smile and encourage them.

I remember one particular situation where when I stopped to help two
older women stalled in traffic. It was a very hot day, and the traffic
was backed up for miles so they had to have geen setting there for a
long time. Numerous 4x4s with macho men driving had gone by them
without offering assistance. When I finally got to them, I saw them
setting in their vehicle, Crying, with masscara running! They were not
some cute little chic that the macho men probably would have been
willing to help, but probably in their late 60s, maybe 70s.

After I towed them, they were very thirsty, and worse yet needed to
pee. So I fixed a tarp over their doors to afford them some privacy
right there in traffic on the road side. I turned my back, and made a
call for a tow truck on my cell phone. When I was done, and they were
done, you have never met two more thankful people. I never said a word
to them about Jesus or God, but I had witnessed to them. I think I did
what Jesus would have done! TnT