On 1-Mar-2005, KMAN wrote:

How has he PROVEN it. Anyone can "provide evidence" that is not the same as
proving something, Tinkerntom.

But dying while waiting and dying because of waiting are two different
things. I haven't looked at all his most recent posts, but some of
the numbers posted did not specify that the deaths were because they
were waiting.

Mike

"Michael Daly" wrote in message
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On 1-Mar-2005, KMAN wrote:

How has he PROVEN it. Anyone can "provide evidence" that is not the same
as
proving something, Tinkerntom.

But dying while waiting and dying because of waiting are two different
things. I haven't looked at all his most recent posts, but some of
the numbers posted did not specify that the deaths were because they
were waiting.

Mike

I know. But it really wasn't the point anyway. I was trying to address the
broad American mythology about Canadian health care, and in trying to pin
down rick to a concrete level, moved the discussion into silly semantics.

"KMAN" wrote in message
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"Michael Daly" wrote in message
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On 1-Mar-2005, KMAN wrote:

How has he PROVEN it. Anyone can "provide evidence" that is
not the same as
proving something, Tinkerntom.

But dying while waiting and dying because of waiting are two
different
things. I haven't looked at all his most recent posts, but
some of
the numbers posted did not specify that the deaths were
because they
were waiting.

Mike

I know. But it really wasn't the point anyway. I was trying to
address the broad American mythology about Canadian health
care, and in trying to pin down rick to a concrete level, moved
the discussion into silly semantics.
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Yes, you have tried tio divert the discussion into a semantic
one. It still doesn't alter the fact that you have remained
wuillfully ignorant in the face of the evidence presented,
liarman.

"Michael Daly" wrote in message
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On 1-Mar-2005, KMAN wrote:

How has he PROVEN it. Anyone can "provide evidence" that is
not the same as
proving something, Tinkerntom.

But dying while waiting and dying because of waiting are two
different
things.
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Sure they are, but the sites I have provided prove that it is the
wait for treatment that caused the deaths.

I haven't looked at all his most recent posts, but some of
the numbers posted did not specify that the deaths were because
they
were waiting.
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And many did. Too bad you can't be bothered with the truth, eh?



Mike

On 2-Mar-2005, "rick" wrote:

Sure they are, but the sites I have provided prove that it is the
wait for treatment that caused the deaths.

Ahh,, no they didn't. Now who's lying?

Mike

"Michael Daly" wrote in message
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On 2-Mar-2005, "rick" wrote:

Sure they are, but the sites I have provided prove that it is
the
wait for treatment that caused the deaths.

Ahh,, no they didn't. Now who's lying?
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Yes, they do. So that would be you.


Mike

On 3-Mar-2005, "rick" wrote:

Yes, they do.

Shall I requote the part about how current information cannot
determine whether or not the deaths are the result of waiting?
That's a quote in the sources you supplied.

Mike

"Michael Daly" wrote in message
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On 3-Mar-2005, "rick" wrote:

Yes, they do.

Shall I requote the part about how current information cannot
determine whether or not the deaths are the result of waiting?
That's a quote in the sources you supplied.
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Go ahead, I believe that one was written by Americans. But
again, it was but one site. Other sites, directly involved in
medicine in Canada say that there have been, and continue to be
deaths of people waiting for treatment. Guess you've decided to
take an americans word over that of the canadian Medical Journal,
eh? Nice to see you think Americans are more believable.



Mike

On 4-Mar-2005, "rick" wrote:

Go ahead, I believe that one was written by Americans.

Stephen Lewis, one of the authors, is a very well known
Canadian.

One report presents information based on study while the
other reports show unsubstantiated numbers pulled out of
someone's ass. You believe the numbers. I'll believe
the study.

Mike