A Usenet persona calling itself Michael Daly wrote:

On 24-Feb-2005, "Wolfgang" wrote:

One cannot but believe they'd exist wherever the hell they
please.

As long as you are working with the Judeo-Christian God, you
are stuck with the fact that even among the faithful, there
is no story or myth where God exists in the physical world.
Every contact between God and man in the Bible is by proxy.

Boy, are you ignorant. I'm not even Christian and I know that this is simply
wrong.

Some examples: Jesus is (according to Christians) the Son of God, and is, in
fact, God himself in one of his Aspects.

Second, God contacted Moses directly when issuing the Ten Commandments.

Third, God interacted directly with Moses and the Isralites when he parted
the Red Sea.

And then there's Lot, his wife, and Sodom and Gomorrah...

The list goes on and on.


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On 25-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

Some examples: Jesus is (according to Christians) the Son of God, and is, in
fact, God himself in one of his Aspects.

Jesus was a man. He was not God in his own form but was the manifestation
of God as a man. He was born to a human woman - Mary. Ask any Christian.

Second, God contacted Moses directly when issuing the Ten Commandments.

He did not reveal himself as God, he spoke to Moses thru a burning bush.
Read the Bible.

Third, God interacted directly with Moses and the Isralites when he parted
the Red Sea.

God didn't part the Red sea. If you check with rabbinical scholars, you'll
find out that Moses did not even cross the Red Sea. That is a mistranslation
of old texts. BTW - even in most Bible translations, Moses parted the
Red Sea. God did not appear in the physical world.

And then there's Lot, his wife, and Sodom and Gomorrah...

What - trying to reveal just how ignorant you really are? Give up
before you dig yourself deeper into a hole of your own stupidity.

Mike

A Usenet persona calling itself Michael Daly wrote:

On 25-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

Some examples: Jesus is (according to Christians) the Son of God, and is, in
fact, God himself in one of his Aspects.

Jesus was a man.

Was he?

He was not God in his own form but was the manifestation
of God as a man.

Therefore he was God.

He was born to a human woman - Mary. Ask any Christian.

And what precludes God from manifesting himself as a human born of a human
woman? He is God after all, he can do pretty much anything he wants, by
definition.


Second, God contacted Moses directly when issuing the Ten Commandments.

He did not reveal himself as God, he spoke to Moses thru a burning bush.

You don't think that a burning bush that's not consumed is not God revealing
himself? And what about Moses' time on the mountain, where God wrote the
Ten Commandments in stone with a "finger of fire?" You don't think that's
God "revealing" himself? How is that a "proxy" transaction?

Read the Bible.

You first. Then try to understand what is written before revealing your
ignorance, Mr. History Person.


Third, God interacted directly with Moses and the Isralites when he parted
the Red Sea.

God didn't part the Red sea.

How do you know? The Bible says he did. What evidence do you have that he
didn't.

If you check with rabbinical scholars, you'll
find out that Moses did not even cross the Red Sea. That is a mistranslation
of old texts.

According to whom? What makes their judgment infallible.

BTW - even in most Bible translations, Moses parted the
Red Sea. God did not appear in the physical world.

Um, not quite. Moses asked God to part the Red Sea. And then there's that
whirlwind of fire, which is another direct manifestation of God in the
physical world.

And then there's Lot, his wife, and Sodom and Gomorrah...

What - trying to reveal just how ignorant you really are? Give up
before you dig yourself deeper into a hole of your own stupidity.

You first.
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Scott Weiser

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On 26-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

And what precludes God from manifesting himself as a human born of a human
woman? He is God after all, he can do pretty much anything he wants, by
definition

But that is not God manifesting himself as God. Which is what I said
in the first place, idiot.

You don't think that a burning bush that's not consumed is not God revealing
himself?

Still not God manifesting himself as God.

According to whom? What makes their judgment infallible.

Uhh, they can _read_ Hebrew. But that's in the realm of reality,
where you are at a loss.

Mike

A Usenet persona calling itself Michael Daly wrote:


On 26-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

And what precludes God from manifesting himself as a human born of a human
woman? He is God after all, he can do pretty much anything he wants, by
definition

But that is not God manifesting himself as God. Which is what I said
in the first place, idiot.

Sez you. Fortunately, you don't get to dictate to God how he/she/it chooses
to manifest.


You don't think that a burning bush that's not consumed is not God revealing
himself?

Still not God manifesting himself as God.

Sez you. How do you know what "God" is or how God manifests? Are you
presuming to dictate to God what acceptable manifestations are? That's
rather rude, not to mention potentially dangerous...


According to whom? What makes their judgment infallible.

Uhh, they can _read_ Hebrew. But that's in the realm of reality,
where you are at a loss.

Non sequitur.
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Scott Weiser

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On 28-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

Sez you. Fortunately, you don't get to dictate to God how he/she/it chooses
to manifes

Trying to twist my words around again idiot? I never said that I am
forcing God into any manifestation. I said that the Bible does not
contain a single example of God manifesting himself as God. Hence,
there is no reference for what God is or can be considered in the
physical world. We have to deal with the sources of information
on God in the Judeo-Christian belief system and the Bible is the
main source.

How do you know what "God" is or how God manifests?

Bible - see above.

According to whom? What makes their judgment infallible.

Uhh, they can _read_ Hebrew. But that's in the realm of reality,
where you are at a loss.

Non sequitur.

So your assumption is that some idiot like yourself that reads an
arbitrary English Bible knows at least as much or more than a group
of scholars that spend their lives studying the Bible in many
different source languages? Get a clue.

Mike

A Usenet persona calling itself Michael Daly wrote:

On 28-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

Sez you. Fortunately, you don't get to dictate to God how he/she/it chooses
to manifes

Trying to twist my words around again idiot?

No, you do that quite successfully all by yourself.

I never said that I am
forcing God into any manifestation. I said that the Bible does not
contain a single example of God manifesting himself as God.

Well, you're still wrong.

Hence,
there is no reference for what God is or can be considered in the
physical world.

Wrong.

We have to deal with the sources of information
on God in the Judeo-Christian belief system and the Bible is the
main source.

How do you know what "God" is or how God manifests?

Bible - see above.

Well, given that there are many examples of the various manifestations of
God in the Bible, you must therefore be woefully ignorant of the contents or
simply too stupid to understand what is written.


According to whom? What makes their judgment infallible.

Uhh, they can _read_ Hebrew. But that's in the realm of reality,
where you are at a loss.

Non sequitur.

So your assumption is that some idiot like yourself that reads an
arbitrary English Bible knows at least as much or more than a group
of scholars that spend their lives studying the Bible in many
different source languages?

Not necessarily, but I certainly know more about it than you do. So do most
ten year old Sunday School children.

Get a clue.

I'll take "Theology" for $800.

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Scott Weiser

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friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser