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"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , BCITORGB at wrote on 2/21/05 10:58 PM: KMAN, I suggested to rick that we take this debate to another level as he alluded to being interested in discussions beyond Canada versus USA comparisons. However, when I asked him for examples of what he deemed to be better systems, he reverted to an adversarial stance. I have to conclude that he actually knows nothing at all about healthcare. What was your first clue? His quick descent into name-calling, or inability to provide sources to back any of his ridiculous claims? ==================== LOL What a hoot!!! I have provided proof. You, on the other hand, rely on chest-thumping, 'mines better than yours' mentality even when i never claimed a system better. that you refuse to see the flaws pointed out by your own sources proves your ideology has far more control than your brain. I would welcome a healthcare discussion. For example, I'd really welcome input from anyone who knows something about Finland. Over the last 4-5 years I've marvelled as Finland scores high on a variety of international comparisons -- health, education, quality of life, economy. I'd love to know how they're doing it. I doubt, however, that rick can be of much help in that regard. =========================== I know that you we not be of any help, since you have decided to stick your head in the sand and pretend that all is fine. frtzw906 I'd love to hear from someone who lives or has lived there! |
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"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 2/22/05 12:12 AM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , BCITORGB at wrote on 2/21/05 10:58 PM: KMAN, I suggested to rick that we take this debate to another level as he alluded to being interested in discussions beyond Canada versus USA comparisons. However, when I asked him for examples of what he deemed to be better systems, he reverted to an adversarial stance. I have to conclude that he actually knows nothing at all about healthcare. What was your first clue? His quick descent into name-calling, or inability to provide sources to back any of his ridiculous claims? ==================== LOL What a hoot!!! I have provided proof. Please point me to the post in which you provided proof that Canadians are dying while in wait lines for care. If you can do so, I will gladly apologize. ===================== Pucker up, fool... You, on the other hand, rely on chest-thumping, 'mines better than yours' mentality even when i never claimed a system better. that you refuse to see the flaws pointed out by your own sources proves your ideology has far more control than your brain. Could be, but that does nothing to change the fact that an allegation was made and it cannot be substantiated. ================= Yet there are, by many Canadian sources. You are afraid to look into them... Since you asked, there are obviously pros and cons to each system, many of which I have readily acknowledged you've chosen not to pay attention, perhaps because you have managed to humiliate yourself so thoroughly. ==================== LOL What a hoot! You're the one running as fast as you can from any data. You really are this stupid, aren't you? I would welcome a healthcare discussion. For example, I'd really welcome input from anyone who knows something about Finland. Over the last 4-5 years I've marvelled as Finland scores high on a variety of international comparisons -- health, education, quality of life, economy. I'd love to know how they're doing it. I doubt, however, that rick can be of much help in that regard. =========================== I know that you we not be of any help, since you have decided to stick your head in the sand and pretend that all is fine. Have you ever asked me what problems there are with Canadian health care? I've actually mentioned some, but you haven't been paying attention. ==================== No, you're too busy chest-thumping... I got invovled in this thread because there was a ridiculous and utterly false allegation made that Canadians were dying in wait lines for health care. It isn't true. If you'd care to simply acknoweldge that there is no evidence to support that allegation, perhaps we can move on and actually talk about the merits and problems of different health care systems. =========================== Then prove that the canadians sites data I've seen is false. But then, you'd have to actually look into the data first, and we know you are afraid to do that, aren't you? frtzw906 I'd love to hear from someone who lives or has lived there! |
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"rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 2/22/05 12:12 AM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , BCITORGB at wrote on 2/21/05 10:58 PM: KMAN, I suggested to rick that we take this debate to another level as he alluded to being interested in discussions beyond Canada versus USA comparisons. However, when I asked him for examples of what he deemed to be better systems, he reverted to an adversarial stance. I have to conclude that he actually knows nothing at all about healthcare. What was your first clue? His quick descent into name-calling, or inability to provide sources to back any of his ridiculous claims? ==================== LOL What a hoot!!! I have provided proof. Please point me to the post in which you provided proof that Canadians are dying while in wait lines for care. If you can do so, I will gladly apologize. ===================== Pucker up, fool... Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. You, on the other hand, rely on chest-thumping, 'mines better than yours' mentality even when i never claimed a system better. that you refuse to see the flaws pointed out by your own sources proves your ideology has far more control than your brain. Could be, but that does nothing to change the fact that an allegation was made and it cannot be substantiated. ================= Yet there are, by many Canadian sources. You are afraid to look into them... Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. Since you asked, there are obviously pros and cons to each system, many of which I have readily acknowledged you've chosen not to pay attention, perhaps because you have managed to humiliate yourself so thoroughly. ==================== LOL What a hoot! You're the one running as fast as you can from any data. You really are this stupid, aren't you? Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. I would welcome a healthcare discussion. For example, I'd really welcome input from anyone who knows something about Finland. Over the last 4-5 years I've marvelled as Finland scores high on a variety of international comparisons -- health, education, quality of life, economy. I'd love to know how they're doing it. I doubt, however, that rick can be of much help in that regard. =========================== I know that you we not be of any help, since you have decided to stick your head in the sand and pretend that all is fine. Have you ever asked me what problems there are with Canadian health care? I've actually mentioned some, but you haven't been paying attention. ==================== No, you're too busy chest-thumping... And again, you continue making insults and showing no interest. I got invovled in this thread because there was a ridiculous and utterly false allegation made that Canadians were dying in wait lines for health care. It isn't true. If you'd care to simply acknoweldge that there is no evidence to support that allegation, perhaps we can move on and actually talk about the merits and problems of different health care systems. =========================== Then prove that the canadians sites data I've seen is false. But then, you'd have to actually look into the data first, and we know you are afraid to do that, aren't you? Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. frtzw906 I'd love to hear from someone who lives or has lived there! |
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"KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 2/22/05 12:12 AM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , BCITORGB at wrote on 2/21/05 10:58 PM: KMAN, I suggested to rick that we take this debate to another level as he alluded to being interested in discussions beyond Canada versus USA comparisons. However, when I asked him for examples of what he deemed to be better systems, he reverted to an adversarial stance. I have to conclude that he actually knows nothing at all about healthcare. What was your first clue? His quick descent into name-calling, or inability to provide sources to back any of his ridiculous claims? ==================== LOL What a hoot!!! I have provided proof. Please point me to the post in which you provided proof that Canadians are dying while in wait lines for care. If you can do so, I will gladly apologize. ===================== Pucker up, fool... Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. And I've told you where else to look. That you are too stupid, ignorant, or ideological to accecpt data based on the messenger just proves your stupidity. You, on the other hand, rely on chest-thumping, 'mines better than yours' mentality even when i never claimed a system better. that you refuse to see the flaws pointed out by your own sources proves your ideology has far more control than your brain. Could be, but that does nothing to change the fact that an allegation was made and it cannot be substantiated. ================= Yet there are, by many Canadian sources. You are afraid to look into them... Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. And I've told you where else to look. That you are too stupid, ignorant, or ideological to accecpt data based on the messenger just proves your stupidity. Since you asked, there are obviously pros and cons to each system, many of which I have readily acknowledged you've chosen not to pay attention, perhaps because you have managed to humiliate yourself so thoroughly. ==================== LOL What a hoot! You're the one running as fast as you can from any data. You really are this stupid, aren't you? Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. And I've told you where else to look. That you are too stupid, ignorant, or ideological to accecpt data based on the messenger just proves your stupidity. I would welcome a healthcare discussion. For example, I'd really welcome input from anyone who knows something about Finland. Over the last 4-5 years I've marvelled as Finland scores high on a variety of international comparisons -- health, education, quality of life, economy. I'd love to know how they're doing it. I doubt, however, that rick can be of much help in that regard. =========================== I know that you we not be of any help, since you have decided to stick your head in the sand and pretend that all is fine. Have you ever asked me what problems there are with Canadian health care? I've actually mentioned some, but you haven't been paying attention. ==================== No, you're too busy chest-thumping... And again, you continue making insults and showing no interest. =========================== LOL You are the one proving that you have no interest in finding out the facts. Thanks again for proving you don't have anything to say. I got invovled in this thread because there was a ridiculous and utterly false allegation made that Canadians were dying in wait lines for health care. It isn't true. If you'd care to simply acknoweldge that there is no evidence to support that allegation, perhaps we can move on and actually talk about the merits and problems of different health care systems. =========================== Then prove that the canadians sites data I've seen is false. But then, you'd have to actually look into the data first, and we know you are afraid to do that, aren't you? Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. And I've told you where else to look. That you are too stupid, ignorant, or ideological to accecpt data based on the messenger just proves your stupidity. frtzw906 I'd love to hear from someone who lives or has lived there! |
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"rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 2/22/05 12:12 AM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , BCITORGB at wrote on 2/21/05 10:58 PM: KMAN, I suggested to rick that we take this debate to another level as he alluded to being interested in discussions beyond Canada versus USA comparisons. However, when I asked him for examples of what he deemed to be better systems, he reverted to an adversarial stance. I have to conclude that he actually knows nothing at all about healthcare. What was your first clue? His quick descent into name-calling, or inability to provide sources to back any of his ridiculous claims? ==================== LOL What a hoot!!! I have provided proof. Please point me to the post in which you provided proof that Canadians are dying while in wait lines for care. If you can do so, I will gladly apologize. ===================== Pucker up, fool... Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. And I've told you where else to look. That you are too stupid, ignorant, or ideological to accecpt data based on the messenger just proves your stupidity. Please post a link to the message in which which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. You, on the other hand, rely on chest-thumping, 'mines better than yours' mentality even when i never claimed a system better. that you refuse to see the flaws pointed out by your own sources proves your ideology has far more control than your brain. Could be, but that does nothing to change the fact that an allegation was made and it cannot be substantiated. ================= Yet there are, by many Canadian sources. You are afraid to look into them... Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. For whatever reasons, it is not available on usenet. Please post to rec.boats.paddle a link to a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. Since you asked, there are obviously pros and cons to each system, many of which I have readily acknowledged you've chosen not to pay attention, perhaps because you have managed to humiliate yourself so thoroughly. ==================== LOL What a hoot! You're the one running as fast as you can from any data. You really are this stupid, aren't you? Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. For whatever reasons, it is not available on usenet. Please post to rec.boats.paddle a link to a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. I would welcome a healthcare discussion. For example, I'd really welcome input from anyone who knows something about Finland. Over the last 4-5 years I've marvelled as Finland scores high on a variety of international comparisons -- health, education, quality of life, economy. I'd love to know how they're doing it. I doubt, however, that rick can be of much help in that regard. =========================== I know that you we not be of any help, since you have decided to stick your head in the sand and pretend that all is fine. Have you ever asked me what problems there are with Canadian health care? I've actually mentioned some, but you haven't been paying attention. ==================== No, you're too busy chest-thumping... And again, you continue making insults and showing no interest. =========================== LOL You are the one proving that you have no interest in finding out the facts. Thanks again for proving you don't have anything to say. Please post the facts that prove Canadians are dying in line waiting for health care. I got invovled in this thread because there was a ridiculous and utterly false allegation made that Canadians were dying in wait lines for health care. It isn't true. If you'd care to simply acknoweldge that there is no evidence to support that allegation, perhaps we can move on and actually talk about the merits and problems of different health care systems. =========================== Then prove that the canadians sites data I've seen is false. But then, you'd have to actually look into the data first, and we know you are afraid to do that, aren't you? Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. For whatever reasons, it is not available on usenet. I invite anyone else wo has seen your post to this effect to share it with me. Please post to rec.boats.paddle a link to a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. |
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"KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 2/22/05 12:12 AM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , BCITORGB at wrote on 2/21/05 10:58 PM: KMAN, I suggested to rick that we take this debate to another level as he alluded to being interested in discussions beyond Canada versus USA comparisons. However, when I asked him for examples of what he deemed to be better systems, he reverted to an adversarial stance. I have to conclude that he actually knows nothing at all about healthcare. What was your first clue? His quick descent into name-calling, or inability to provide sources to back any of his ridiculous claims? ==================== LOL What a hoot!!! I have provided proof. Please point me to the post in which you provided proof that Canadians are dying while in wait lines for care. If you can do so, I will gladly apologize. ===================== Pucker up, fool... Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. And I've told you where else to look. That you are too stupid, ignorant, or ideological to accecpt data based on the messenger just proves your stupidity. Please post a link to the message in which which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. And I've told you where else to look. That you are too stupid, ignorant, or ideological to accecpt data based on the messenger just proves your stupidity. You, on the other hand, rely on chest-thumping, 'mines better than yours' mentality even when i never claimed a system better. that you refuse to see the flaws pointed out by your own sources proves your ideology has far more control than your brain. Could be, but that does nothing to change the fact that an allegation was made and it cannot be substantiated. ================= Yet there are, by many Canadian sources. You are afraid to look into them... Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. For whatever reasons, it is not available on usenet. Please post to rec.boats.paddle a link to a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. And I've told you where else to look. That you are too stupid, ignorant, or ideological to accecpt data based on the messenger just proves your stupidity. Since you asked, there are obviously pros and cons to each system, many of which I have readily acknowledged you've chosen not to pay attention, perhaps because you have managed to humiliate yourself so thoroughly. ==================== LOL What a hoot! You're the one running as fast as you can from any data. You really are this stupid, aren't you? Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. For whatever reasons, it is not available on usenet. Please post to rec.boats.paddle a link to a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. And I've told you where else to look. That you are too stupid, ignorant, or ideological to accecpt data based on the messenger just proves your stupidity. I would welcome a healthcare discussion. For example, I'd really welcome input from anyone who knows something about Finland. Over the last 4-5 years I've marvelled as Finland scores high on a variety of international comparisons -- health, education, quality of life, economy. I'd love to know how they're doing it. I doubt, however, that rick can be of much help in that regard. =========================== I know that you we not be of any help, since you have decided to stick your head in the sand and pretend that all is fine. Have you ever asked me what problems there are with Canadian health care? I've actually mentioned some, but you haven't been paying attention. ==================== No, you're too busy chest-thumping... And again, you continue making insults and showing no interest. =========================== LOL You are the one proving that you have no interest in finding out the facts. Thanks again for proving you don't have anything to say. Please post the facts that prove Canadians are dying in line waiting for health care. ======================= I have. And I've told you where else to look. That you are too stupid, ignorant, or ideological to accecpt data based on the messenger just proves your stupidity. I got invovled in this thread because there was a ridiculous and utterly false allegation made that Canadians were dying in wait lines for health care. It isn't true. If you'd care to simply acknoweldge that there is no evidence to support that allegation, perhaps we can move on and actually talk about the merits and problems of different health care systems. =========================== Then prove that the canadians sites data I've seen is false. But then, you'd have to actually look into the data first, and we know you are afraid to do that, aren't you? Please provide a link to the message in which you posted a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. For whatever reasons, it is not available on usenet. I invite anyone else wo has seen your post to this effect to share it with me. Please post to rec.boats.paddle a link to a Canadian reference (or any reference) that proves Canadians have died in wait lines for health care, and I will make a formal and public apology. ======================= I have. And I've told you where else to look. That you are too stupid, ignorant, or ideological to accecpt data based on the messenger just proves your stupidity. |
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