BCITORGB wrote:

Weiser says:
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Well, are you claiming bad press then? Whenever someone here talks
about
socialized medicine, the examples of people waitlisted to death in
Canada
and Britain are commonplace. Maybe you're just lucky.
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Probably bad press all around, eh? Whenever the media talks about the
Americam model, it's examples of the working poor, nursing nagging
ailments that under socialized medicine would have readily been cleared
up.

Sounds like the media is once again depicting sensationalised
viewer-attracting examples that are not representative of reality... but
what else is new? Not too long ago Fox aired a so called "documentary"
about live new-born babies who were tossed on piles to die. The funny
thing was that no Dutch reporter had heard of anything like that ever
happening, and even a German report exists about how Fox aired something
that never happened. It turned out to be something that a Fox reporter
who only stayed in the Netherlands for a day made up... Very original
and very bogus.

I guess he decided that mixing two controversial items about the
Netherlands, i.e. legalised abortion and euthanasia, would draw more
U.S. viewers.

puke

I've had plenty of relatives with eye, cancer, heart, diabetes, etc etc
problems. NO issues with our health system. NO waits (in one case, in
fact, helicopter from one town to the next -- immediately from the GP's
office).

Ditto here. The only exception is certain transplants for which very few
donors exist, but for that there is also a waiting list in the U.S..
Unless of course you pay a fortune to let some Indian streetkid get cut
open in a New Delhi private hospital and getting his organ. :-(

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Wilko van den Bergh wilko(a t)dse(d o t)nl
Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.---
http://wilko.webzone.ru/

Wilko, long ago, the USA pioneered the implementation of universal
education. The western world owes much to those endeavors.

Assuming that public education is a good thing (and I do), I find it
difficult to accept that public healthcare is not every bit as "good"
or important. Perhaps even more so.

Is it just me, or could it be that the long-standing bias against
public healthcare in the USA is a function of a well-financed medical
profession lobby? In most countries, before public healthcare was
mandated, the dire warnings of the medical establishment about negative
consequences of public medicine were shrill indeed.

It has been decades now since most western nations adopted one form or
another of public healthcare. The well-being of these peoples has not
been compromised.

But in the USA, it's still a case of, "The sky is falling!"

frtzw906