A Usenet persona calling itself Michael Daly wrote:

On 10-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

are trying to export that what they call "democracy".

Wah. Democracy works. Socialism doesn't.

The irony is that you didn't even get what he said.

Oh but I did.


We care deeply what you think. We just think you're deluded and oppressed,
and we want to educate you about the benefits of representative democracy
and capitalism, which is what makes the US the most powerful, influential
and free nation on the planet.

So Americans are free and everyone else is oppressed?

Pretty much.

I guess you've never
read the Patriot Act of other gross abuses of freedom.

Actually, I have. Have you? Can you cite the "gross abuses of freedom" you
claim the Patriot Act includes?

American influence
is waning because of your arrogance and gradually declining economic status.

Every nation has its ups and downs. Still, people are clamoring to get here
and buy our products.

100 years ago, Britain was the world power; fifty years later it was broke
and losing influence. Why should anyone believe the yanks will last any
longer given that they pay almost no attention to the reality of what's
going on around them?

Not subscribing to the political dogmas of the rest of the world is
different than paying no attention. We pay close attention. We choose not to
subscribe to policies that we believe are harmful to liberty and freedom.


To assume that the US is the only free and democratic nation is both naive
and a grotesque misrepresentation of facts.

Really? Cite me one single nation other than the US that is both democratic
and protects the right of citizens to keep and bear arms.

If you don't have a right to keep and bear arms, you are not, ipso facto,
free, you are a slave to your government because you do not have the
capacity to overthrow it should it become a tyranny.


--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

Scott Weiser says:
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Still, people are clamoring to get here
and buy our products.
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On a per capita basis, there are several countries that have more
people "clamoring" to get in. Check the global refugee statistcs.
Determine where the refugees are going. Then, if the math is not too
difficult, divide the number of refugees by the population of the
country they're going to. You'll be surprised that the results don't
coincide with the oft-repeated mantra of "the world is clamoring to get
into the USA".

As to buying your products: I can only ask, "have you been in a Wal
Mart recently?" It looks like the world is clamoring to buy Chinese
products.

Cheers,
frtzw906
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A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

Scott Weiser says:
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Still, people are clamoring to get here
and buy our products.
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On a per capita basis, there are several countries that have more
people "clamoring" to get in.

Fine by me. Let them take all the immigrants. In all probability, however,
they are clamoring to get in there because they can't get in here.

As to buying your products: I can only ask, "have you been in a Wal
Mart recently?" It looks like the world is clamoring to buy Chinese
products.

Yup. Including, interestingly, the Chinese...
--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

Scott Weiser says:
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If you don't have a right to keep and bear arms, you are not, ipso
facto,
free
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OK. ROTFL

What a load of crap! This sort of nonsense is not worthy of a rational
reply.

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

Scott Weiser says:
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If you don't have a right to keep and bear arms, you are not, ipso
facto,
free
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OK. ROTFL

What a load of crap! This sort of nonsense is not worthy of a rational
reply.


Sorry, but it's true. If the citizenry does not have the capacity to
overthrown its own government, then the citizenry exercises its liberties at
the whims and caprices of its government.

History proves this to be true.

--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

Scott Weiser writes:

A Usenet persona calling itself Michael Daly wrote:

On 10-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

To assume that the US is the only free and democratic nation is both naive
and a grotesque misrepresentation of facts.

Really? Cite me one single nation other than the US that is both democratic
and protects the right of citizens to keep and bear arms.

Switzerland

If you don't have a right to keep and bear arms, you are not, ipso facto,
free, you are a slave to your government because you do not have the
capacity to overthrow it should it become a tyranny.

You are fuill of ****

--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk

Cat, n.: Lapwarmer with built-in buzzer.

A Usenet persona calling itself Kegs wrote:

Scott Weiser writes:

A Usenet persona calling itself Michael Daly wrote:

On 10-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

To assume that the US is the only free and democratic nation is both naive
and a grotesque misrepresentation of facts.

Really? Cite me one single nation other than the US that is both democratic
and protects the right of citizens to keep and bear arms.

Switzerland

There we agree. Any others?


If you don't have a right to keep and bear arms, you are not, ipso facto,
free, you are a slave to your government because you do not have the
capacity to overthrow it should it become a tyranny.

You are fuill of ****

What a pellucid analysis of inconvenient facts. Not.

--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

On 11-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

So Americans are free and everyone else is oppressed?

Pretty much.

Can you offer any proof?

Actually, I have. Have you? Can you cite the "gross abuses of freedom" you
claim the Patriot Act includes?

How about the ability of the President and his cronies being able to
declare anyone a threat and having them tossed into custody without
charge or access to legal representation?

Really? Cite me one single nation other than the US that is both democratic
and protects the right of citizens to keep and bear arms.

Canada, Britain, Switzerland and many others allow their citizens to own
guns.

If you don't have a right to keep and bear arms, you are not, ipso facto,
free, you are a slave to your government because you do not have the
capacity to overthrow it should it become a tyranny.

And you think a bunch of disorganized, untrained citizens with glorified
pop guns can overthrow the US military? Yeah, right. That might have
been true two hundred years ago, but not today. You're going to need
some serious explosives too, and in most US states, explosives are
illegal to own or make.

Given that 30% of the US populace treats the president as royalty,
I rather doubt you could generate enough interest to overthrow the
feds.

Mike