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On 18-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:
Is it random chance caused by gamma-ray damage to DNA, or could there be some greater intelligence at work, one that we cannot detect or quantify? DNA changes all the time. Not all changes result in obvious changes to the organism. You don't know anything about evolution, nor biology, nor genetics. You'd better stick to what you do know, if that can be identified. Mike |
On 18-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote: One of the problems with socialized medicine is that because it is centrally organized, you can't bypass the wait list for your assigned doctor/hospital by going somewhere else where there are fewer people on the list, because this is seen as "jumping the queue." In the US, if your doctor is too busy to see you, you can go find one that isn't so busy, anywhere in the US...or indeed in the world. Your ignorance knows no bounds. In Canada, we have "socialized" medicine. We also have the ability to go to any doctor we wish, and we can leave the country to get treatment if required - it happens all the time. In fact, those treated outside are still covered by medical insurance. There is no one that dictates who gets what treatment. There are no "assignments" of services. Your expertise is ignorance. Keep it up, we need a good laugh. BTW - could you kindly explain how a strictly for-profit medical system can magically cope with overcrowding? Do hospitals and doctors magically appear out of the ether to take on the extra load? Mike |
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wrote on 2/20/05 11:42 AM: just after Bush stole his first presidency. Bush won the election by every recount so far - have you found a different result? I would like to see it. I am not some blind follower of Bush but I'm getting tired of this stupid "Bush stole the election" crap. What happened in Florida was absurd, but the result has been verify many times. ??? Perhaps you are unaware that the the Republicam members of the Supreme Court stopped the recount. As to what every recount so far has to say, it depends on who you ask. For every http://www.bushwatch.com/gorebush.htm there's a http://rightwingnews.com/john/tantrum.php "Dave Manby" wrote in message ... I always loved coming into the states - especially through Miami Florida just after Bush stole his first presidency. You, a non American, are asked to fill in several forms with boxes to fill. I always feel like asking if they want a tick cross or Chad and who is going to count these and anyway they are a good reflection of the intelligence of the CIA terrorism controls and other forms of attempted control. Among the questions you are asked are 1 Are you a member of a terrorist organisation? 2 Are you addicted to Narcotics 3 Were you a member of the Nazi party between xxxx and xxxx. The rest are just as inane. Apparently the reason for asking you these questions is so that they can do you for lying if you are caught! It is no wonder the phrase dumb America has arisen! Surely the answer to all this is to look at the cause of the terrorism and attempt to answer the questions raised. Palestine has for too long been ignored and it was not till many years of terrorism that the rest of the world started looking at the plight of the refugees in Gaza and the other OCCUPIED by Israel territories. Al Quaeda has its own agenda and maybe looking at the reason why they have picked on the west in general and the USA in particular would help solve the threat for better than trying to impose Western ideals on reluctant people. I would argue that this has created more terrorism than it has prevented. In message , Scott Weiser writes A Usenet persona calling itself Michael Daly wrote: On 16-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote: The fact that Canada accepts more refugees than the US (but then, most countries are more open to help others than the US) has nothing to do with terrorism. Unfortunately, you are mistaken. Proof? Refugees come from around the world. Terrorists tend to be well funded and arrive carrying briefcases. No, they come looking like refugees, and acting like refugees, so that they can move about freely and without scrutiny. One can get to Toronto without any scrutiny, You've never arrived in Toronto from anywhere, right? There is such a thing as customs and immigration. Canada's border is _not_ open. It's more open that it ought to be. and then it's a short car trip across the border to the US Which only proves that the US can't control its borders. Well, "will not" is more accurate. We can, we just choose not to. You wouldn't like it at all if we chose to. Neither would Mexico. That, however, is precisely what I (along with many others) are suggesting we need to do. You won't like it if we do. Don't blame anyone for your problems. I'm not blaming anyone, I'm merely suggesting that if Canada doesn't do its part to prevent infiltration by terrorists, the US may have no choice but to close the border, which will wreck your economy. The 9/11 terrorists arrived in the US thru US ports of entry, not thru Canada. And yet other terrorists arrive through Canada. Case in point: the terrorist with a vehicle full of explosives caught entering the US from Vancouver at Port Angeles just prior to the Millennium celebration who planned to blow up the Space Needle in Seattle. He was caught by an alert Border Patrol agent. Others have certainly slipped in from Canada as well. -- Dave Manby Details of the Coruh river and my book "Many Rivers To Run" at http://www.dmanby.demon.co.uk |
On 18-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:
Science probably can either prove or disprove the existence of God, if and when our scientific understanding advances to the point that we can identify the concept. Religions define their gods quite well. You're grasping at straws here. Probably because so much of your "scientific" training comes from science fiction. Nor does it disprove it. Thank you for restating what I keep on saying. Evidence, however, is a rather more abstract concept than proof. This is weiser at his absurd best. Only if one pre-accepts the premise that the occurrence of a highly improbable event is a matter of random chance would this logic apply. On the other hand, if one posits the hypothesis that because an event that has occurred is highly improbable, it is reasonable to suspect some factor other than random chance is involved. Just because it is improbable doesn't mean it is impossible. If it occurs, nothing changes. If you are overly focused on the probability, then you start searching for other excuses for your lack of understanding. If there is a legitimate reason for doubting, the Bayesian approach is valid. What the "intelligent design" advocates ignore is that there isn't a single roll of the dice. less energy dense fuel than oil The problem with hydrogen as a "fuel" is that is contains no energy that wasn't put there by someone. It isn't a fuel, merely a means of transporting energy. It doesn't address an energy problem, only a portability problem. There is still a requirement for a source(s) of energy and the "hydrogen economy" conveniently ignores the associated costs and problems. In the end, hydrogen is a way of reducing the overall efficiency of an energy system. That's not a solution. Mike |
"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , Scott Weiser at wrote on 2/19/05 3:14 PM: snippage.. Can you post one verifiable reference to a patient in Canada who died waiting? Good luck finding one. But the way you are talking, you should be able to find hundreds! You really don't know what you are talking about, why not just admit that? =========== Nice little set-up. You know that hospitals cannot release patirnt info, like names, especially they won't when the system would look bad anyway. So you know that your demand for real names probably will be hard to find. Yet, many groups and angencies, in Canada, claim that these deaths do occur. http://www.nupge.ca/news_2000/News%20May/n12my00a.htm http://www.cato.org/dailys/07-24-04.html http://www.utoronto.ca/hpme/dhr/pdf/Barer-Lewis.pdf Places like Canada are the ones that are promoting the differences between the haves and the have-nots. http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman...oysplight.html tell me a 2 1/2 year wait if the boy does have cancer won't effect the outcome of his life, and that if the family HAS the money, they won't get one privately in Canada or the states. snip... |
On 18-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:
Proof? Refugees come from around the world. Terrorists tend to be well funded and arrive carrying briefcases. No, they come looking like refugees, You're making this up as you go along. You still provide no proof. Don't blame anyone for your problems. I'm not blaming anyone, Then quit whining. You have a problem - fix it and get out of everyone else's face. Case in point: the terrorist with a vehicle full of explosives caught entering the US from Vancouver at Port Angeles just prior to the Millennium celebration who planned to blow up the Space Needle in Seattle. One example vs the twenty plus that came into the US directly from Saudi Arabia. The problem is still yours. Mike |
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wrote on 2/20/05 12:32 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , Scott Weiser at wrote on 2/19/05 3:14 PM: snippage.. Can you post one verifiable reference to a patient in Canada who died waiting? Good luck finding one. But the way you are talking, you should be able to find hundreds! You really don't know what you are talking about, why not just admit that? =========== Nice little set-up. You know that hospitals cannot release patirnt info, like names, especially they won't when the system would look bad anyway. So you know that your demand for real names probably will be hard to find. Yet, many groups and angencies, in Canada, claim that these deaths do occur. http://www.nupge.ca/news_2000/News%20May/n12my00a.htm http://www.cato.org/dailys/07-24-04.html http://www.utoronto.ca/hpme/dhr/pdf/Barer-Lewis.pdf LOL. You think if real people had died in waiting lines the media would not get the story? Places like Canada are the ones that are promoting the differences between the haves and the have-nots. ? http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman...oysplight.html As many as 100 children in Newfoundland face 30-month waits for the high-tech scans, said Geoffrey Higgins, clinical chief of diagnostic imaging at the Health Care Corporation of St. John's. While the wait is "less than ideal," he said patients' conditions are being investigated and followed by other medical means, and that anyone needing an emergency scan gets one. You're telling me there aren't poor people in the US in isolated or slum areas where they have a hard time getting a scan at their convenience? Get real. tell me a 2 1/2 year wait if the boy does have cancer won't effect the outcome of his life, and that if the family HAS the money, they won't get one privately in Canada or the states. snip... Yes, rich people everywhere can find ways to get things that other people can't. Canada does not have a ban on rich people. |
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=================== Which is fine so long as the government isn't artificially limiting wages, as it does in socialized medicine. =========================== The government, in theory, can artificially limit wages. In practice, doctors in Canada know how clout they have. They act as anyone with power acts (they've learned well from trade unons): they withhold services. And they continue to withhold services until the fee schedule looks like they want it to look. So, it is the marketplace insifar as there is a marketplace when one party holds monopoly power. The doctors play a significant role in determining how much they get paid. Doctors can go on "strike" and they have done so -- because they're doctors, they never call it anything nearly so crass as a "strike", but the net effect is the same. There's no need to hold any tag days for doctors up in Canada, Scott; they're doing just fine. Weiser says: ==================== Compared to US doctors? Please. ======================= That begs the question: could it be that American doctors are overpaid? Like doctors everywhere, by virtue of their licence and the influence they wield over medical school entrance number, they hold considerable power. In neither the USA nor Canada can the economy find a natural equilibrium. In both countries, entrance to medical schools is severely restricted. In large measure this is due to the influence of medical associations. Restriction of supply guarantees higher incomes. frtzw906 |
On 18-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:
Yup, but you fail to recognize that the regulatory climate in the US Regulations have nothing to do with it. The US cannot increase its capacity by 25% overnight. You don't have the reserves. I used to work in the oil industry and specifically did research on US Arctic exploration for companies like Chevron, Exxon, etc. You fail to understand the degree to which America consumes compared to its ability to produce. But ignorance seems to be your specialty. Given the stimulus to provide our own electricity, we can do so. With what? More multi-billion nukes that don't work? How about gas turbines? - quick to install - no wait, they require natural gas, which imports from Canada you'd lose. How about dams on rivers - uhh, no more rivers to dam. I guess you'll have to stick to hamsters in wheels. Temporary impediments only. If US industry can so quickly recover from a loss in capacity, then that means your previous claims about the importance of corporate welfare are bogus. If corporations can build efficient capacity quickly, then there is no reason to support any company - just let it die and it will be replaced. it's time to amend the pacts so that our economy suffers no harm. Your economy is suffering because you are spending money you don't have, are importing more than you export and are wasting more than the vast majority of the world's population. Corporate America has been using whatever means it has to shift to cheap imports to boost shareholder value at the expense of long term US value. Nothing to do with trade agreements. Mike |
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