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John H January 15th 04 01:51 PM

OT: Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 
On 15 Jan 2004 04:41:23 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 18:18:21 -0500, "Marty S."
wrote:


Note that it is a vehicle for continuing education and professional
development. Thus it is hardly a place to censor material to ensure
only one side of a story is told.

John H




That's a pretty naive thing to say. If the publisher of a journal disagrees
with a particular position, whether academic, scientific, or political, then
it won't publish the article.

I'm not defending or condeming the article in question -- I haven't read it.
I don't have a dog in this fight. But, what you said, John, is just not the
way the world works.


Marty, are you implying that the Army War College agrees with
everything in the article?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


John, are you implying that the Army War College DISagrees with
everything in the article?


Sorry, basskisser, I should have been more clear for you. I've implied
that the publisher should publish both sides of the story. The
publisher's agreement, or lack thereof, with the article is not
pertinent.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H January 15th 04 02:06 PM

Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 
On 15 Jan 2004 04:33:43 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 14 Jan 2004 05:05:57 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 13 Jan 2004 04:27:24 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:


Did you not make the following statement?

************************************************** ********
Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
************************************************** *******

+++++++.+ Again, the Army War College said nothing. Read the
article. The war
college published the report. It didn't write it and disclaimed
agreement with it.

No, I didn't make the above statement. That is a title. I just don't
understand the right. It wouldn't matter if someone caught Bush
killing a cat with his bare hands, on tape, with sound, and perfect
video. You all would still say the person who took the video was a
left wing, unpatriotic liar!!!


In my computer, when I post a new message, I type the title. In doing
so I am making a statement. You, for example, could have titled your
post:

*Jeffrey Record says Iraq "unnecessary"*

But that wouldn't be much of an attention grabber, would it? Therefore
you chose to make the statement you did, which was a lie.

In your example, I would entitle the piece something like:

*Bush kills rabid cat with bare hands, thus protecting hundreds of
spectators who were soon to be bitten*

See how easy it is to be honest?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


It is a TITLE, John. Nothing more. Nothing less. Now, if in the body
of the piece, I said that I *knew for a fact* that the War College
says Iraq war unneccessary, that would be different. But, again, your
too far right, with too tight of blinders to see anything but your
BushCo agenda. Again, I can't believe how you rights can't see
anything but that.


So, if I wrote a title which said,

Basskisser is full of "****"

and then went on in the body of the piece to say something different,
there would be no problem?

You made a statement of fact in your title. That was a false
statement.

Again, my comments regarding your statement do not reflect my
leanings. If name-calling ("too tight of blinders") helps your
self-esteem, go for it.


John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser January 16th 04 04:10 PM

Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On 15 Jan 2004 04:33:43 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 14 Jan 2004 05:05:57 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 13 Jan 2004 04:27:24 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:


Did you not make the following statement?

************************************************** ********
Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
************************************************** *******

+++++++.+ Again, the Army War College said nothing. Read the
article. The war
college published the report. It didn't write it and disclaimed
agreement with it.

No, I didn't make the above statement. That is a title. I just don't
understand the right. It wouldn't matter if someone caught Bush
killing a cat with his bare hands, on tape, with sound, and perfect
video. You all would still say the person who took the video was a
left wing, unpatriotic liar!!!

In my computer, when I post a new message, I type the title. In doing
so I am making a statement. You, for example, could have titled your
post:

*Jeffrey Record says Iraq "unnecessary"*

But that wouldn't be much of an attention grabber, would it? Therefore
you chose to make the statement you did, which was a lie.

In your example, I would entitle the piece something like:

*Bush kills rabid cat with bare hands, thus protecting hundreds of
spectators who were soon to be bitten*

See how easy it is to be honest?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


It is a TITLE, John. Nothing more. Nothing less. Now, if in the body
of the piece, I said that I *knew for a fact* that the War College
says Iraq war unneccessary, that would be different. But, again, your
too far right, with too tight of blinders to see anything but your
BushCo agenda. Again, I can't believe how you rights can't see
anything but that.


So, if I wrote a title which said,

Basskisser is full of "****"

and then went on in the body of the piece to say something different,
there would be no problem?


Nope, if there was no implication of truth in the body, there
wouldn't. In this case, there is.

You made a statement of fact in your title. That was a false
statement.

Again, my comments regarding your statement do not reflect my
leanings. If name-calling ("too tight of blinders") helps your
self-esteem, go for it.


I think everybody here knows which way YOU lean!

basskisser January 16th 04 04:12 PM

OT: Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 
John H wrote in message
Marty, are you implying that the Army War College agrees with
everything in the article?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


John, are you implying that the Army War College DISagrees with
everything in the article?


Sorry, basskisser, I should have been more clear for you. I've implied
that the publisher should publish both sides of the story. The
publisher's agreement, or lack thereof, with the article is not
pertinent.


Then why did you ask the question?

John H January 16th 04 09:33 PM

OT: Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 
On 16 Jan 2004 08:12:14 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message
Marty, are you implying that the Army War College agrees with
everything in the article?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John, are you implying that the Army War College DISagrees with
everything in the article?


Sorry, basskisser, I should have been more clear for you. I've implied
that the publisher should publish both sides of the story. The
publisher's agreement, or lack thereof, with the article is not
pertinent.


Then why did you ask the question?


Because of Marty's comment.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser January 19th 04 12:29 PM

OT: Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On 16 Jan 2004 08:12:14 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message
Marty, are you implying that the Army War College agrees with
everything in the article?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John, are you implying that the Army War College DISagrees with
everything in the article?

Sorry, basskisser, I should have been more clear for you. I've implied
that the publisher should publish both sides of the story. The
publisher's agreement, or lack thereof, with the article is not
pertinent.


Then why did you ask the question?


Because of Marty's comment.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


Typical right side spin. You find it quite all right to think that,
because somebody agrees with an article critical of BushCo, that the
person must state that he must agree with everything the article
states. Then turn it 180 degrees, and ask the right winger the
question, and then it's a whole different story.

John H January 19th 04 02:18 PM

OT: Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 
On 19 Jan 2004 04:29:46 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 16 Jan 2004 08:12:14 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message
Marty, are you implying that the Army War College agrees with
everything in the article?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John, are you implying that the Army War College DISagrees with
everything in the article?

Sorry, basskisser, I should have been more clear for you. I've implied
that the publisher should publish both sides of the story. The
publisher's agreement, or lack thereof, with the article is not
pertinent.

Then why did you ask the question?


Because of Marty's comment.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


Typical right side spin. You find it quite all right to think that,
because somebody agrees with an article critical of BushCo, that the
person must state that he must agree with everything the article
states. Then turn it 180 degrees, and ask the right winger the
question, and then it's a whole different story.


I think I understand your problem now. I used the word 'everything' in
my question to Marty. You keyed on that word, and thus your questions.
I probably should have asked, "Marty, are you implying that the Army
War College agrees with the arguments presented in the article?"

Would that have been a better way to help your understanding of what I
was asking Marty?

As to your paragraph, above, perhaps you should go see what Marty
said. He neither agreed nor disagreed with the article. So, your
comments about 'right wing, left wing, spin, etc" are pointless.
Perhaps you should question Marty as to the meaning of his post,
assuming you've read it.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser January 19th 04 08:29 PM

OT: Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On 19 Jan 2004 04:29:46 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 16 Jan 2004 08:12:14 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message
Marty, are you implying that the Army War College agrees with
everything in the article?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John, are you implying that the Army War College DISagrees with
everything in the article?

Sorry, basskisser, I should have been more clear for you. I've implied
that the publisher should publish both sides of the story. The
publisher's agreement, or lack thereof, with the article is not
pertinent.

Then why did you ask the question?

Because of Marty's comment.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


Typical right side spin. You find it quite all right to think that,
because somebody agrees with an article critical of BushCo, that the
person must state that he must agree with everything the article
states. Then turn it 180 degrees, and ask the right winger the
question, and then it's a whole different story.


I think I understand your problem now. I used the word 'everything' in
my question to Marty. You keyed on that word, and thus your questions.
I probably should have asked, "Marty, are you implying that the Army
War College agrees with the arguments presented in the article?"

Would that have been a better way to help your understanding of what I
was asking Marty?


I perfectly understand what you were asking Marty, and you did so in a
way to TRY to make it sound like the War College disagrees. When the
tables are turned, you don't like it, huh?

John H January 19th 04 09:08 PM

OT: Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 
On 19 Jan 2004 12:29:30 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 19 Jan 2004 04:29:46 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 16 Jan 2004 08:12:14 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message
Marty, are you implying that the Army War College agrees with
everything in the article?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John, are you implying that the Army War College DISagrees with
everything in the article?

Sorry, basskisser, I should have been more clear for you. I've implied
that the publisher should publish both sides of the story. The
publisher's agreement, or lack thereof, with the article is not
pertinent.

Then why did you ask the question?

Because of Marty's comment.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Typical right side spin. You find it quite all right to think that,
because somebody agrees with an article critical of BushCo, that the
person must state that he must agree with everything the article
states. Then turn it 180 degrees, and ask the right winger the
question, and then it's a whole different story.


I think I understand your problem now. I used the word 'everything' in
my question to Marty. You keyed on that word, and thus your questions.
I probably should have asked, "Marty, are you implying that the Army
War College agrees with the arguments presented in the article?"

Would that have been a better way to help your understanding of what I
was asking Marty?


I perfectly understand what you were asking Marty, and you did so in a
way to TRY to make it sound like the War College disagrees. When the
tables are turned, you don't like it, huh?


I made no attempt to do any such thing. If you will read the posts,
you will see that I said, "Note that it ["Parameters"] is a vehicle
for continuing education and professional development. Thus it is
hardly a place to censor material to ensure only one side of a story
is told."

I went on to say that the publication of the article by the Army War
College implies neither agreement or disagreement with the article.

I realize that you are *trying* to be accusatorial, but you'll just
have to dig a little deeper. You are most assuredly failing at your
task.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser January 20th 04 12:24 PM

OT: Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On 19 Jan 2004 12:29:30 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 19 Jan 2004 04:29:46 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 16 Jan 2004 08:12:14 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message
Marty, are you implying that the Army War College agrees with
everything in the article?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John, are you implying that the Army War College DISagrees with
everything in the article?

Sorry, basskisser, I should have been more clear for you. I've implied
that the publisher should publish both sides of the story. The
publisher's agreement, or lack thereof, with the article is not
pertinent.

Then why did you ask the question?

Because of Marty's comment.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Typical right side spin. You find it quite all right to think that,
because somebody agrees with an article critical of BushCo, that the
person must state that he must agree with everything the article
states. Then turn it 180 degrees, and ask the right winger the
question, and then it's a whole different story.

I think I understand your problem now. I used the word 'everything' in
my question to Marty. You keyed on that word, and thus your questions.
I probably should have asked, "Marty, are you implying that the Army
War College agrees with the arguments presented in the article?"

Would that have been a better way to help your understanding of what I
was asking Marty?


I perfectly understand what you were asking Marty, and you did so in a
way to TRY to make it sound like the War College disagrees. When the
tables are turned, you don't like it, huh?


I made no attempt to do any such thing. If you will read the posts,
you will see that I said, "Note that it ["Parameters"] is a vehicle
for continuing education and professional development. Thus it is
hardly a place to censor material to ensure only one side of a story
is told."

I went on to say that the publication of the article by the Army War
College implies neither agreement or disagreement with the article.

I realize that you are *trying* to be accusatorial, but you'll just
have to dig a little deeper. You are most assuredly failing at your
task.


If that is what you think, you aren't as brilliant as you'd like
everyone here to believe.


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