Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 

"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:51:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:43:54 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

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No one could have all the experiences necessary, by the manner in
which you make definitions, to be president. Global strategy is only
one arena. How about global economics, global environment, global
health, global education, etc. That's why presidents have advisors at
the cabinet level and below.

No new enlistees go to the War College. Only officers go to the War
College, usually Lieutenant Colonel and higher. I've never heard of a
Major attending. If a Lieutenant Colonel attends, he/she has probably
been selected for promotion to Colonel.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

I understand who goes to the war college. And, you've proven my point. A
select few get there. My contention is that if they've been through it,
their opinions may be somewhat more valid than yours or mine. That's all.


Doug, my point is: If this essay had been published in almost any
other publication, we most likely would never have heard of it. The
article became famous because the Washington Post noticed it was
published by the Army War College. Note that none of the other
articles (which may be found at:
http://www.carlisle.army.mil/usawc/p...rs/a-index.htm) have ever
received such spotlighting.

Could it be because they have different messages, ones that don't
correspond with the agenda of the Washington Post?

Of course, John. If you want a news source that's unbiased, you'll need to
find one that's managed by robots. And even then, the programmers of those
robots would be suspect.

Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:52:27 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:28:03 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

It sounds to me like somebody had the balls to do the right thing:
Publish
an opinion which might be unpopular.

But we all know that opinions are like........... It means nothing
except someone's personal viewpoint.

Dave

Yeah, but the the "someone" has qualifications that you or I do NOT have,
their opinions may reflect facts.


Key word: "may".

There are no guarantees, nor should one assume such..

Dave

Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:38:35 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:52:27 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:28:03 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

It sounds to me like somebody had the balls to do the right thing:
Publish
an opinion which might be unpopular.

But we all know that opinions are like........... It means nothing
except someone's personal viewpoint.

Dave

Yeah, but the the "someone" has qualifications that you or I do NOT have,
their opinions may reflect facts.

There are many more 'just-as-qualified' somebodies writing articles
for "Parameters". Record is no more qualified than most of the
authors. He simply said something in a forum which the Washington Post
could use to reflect its agenda.

In other words: "selective journalism".

Dave

Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 

John, I agree with many of your political positions, but if you want to see
this group get back to boating topics, it might be best if you ignore the
political posts. You will not change anyone minds and the OT posts are
ruining this NG.


"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:52:27 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:28:03 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

It sounds to me like somebody had the balls to do the right thing:
Publish
an opinion which might be unpopular.

But we all know that opinions are like........... It means nothing
except someone's personal viewpoint.

Dave

Yeah, but the the "someone" has qualifications that you or I do NOT have,
their opinions may reflect facts.

There are many more 'just-as-qualified' somebodies writing articles
for "Parameters". Record is no more qualified than most of the
authors. He simply said something in a forum which the Washington Post
could use to reflect its agenda.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 

Dave,
Let's follow the suggestion of a few others and try to ignore all OT posts.
There are a ton of political NG's for those who want to argue with those we
disagree with.


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:38:35 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:52:27 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:28:03 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

It sounds to me like somebody had the balls to do the right thing:
Publish
an opinion which might be unpopular.

But we all know that opinions are like........... It means nothing
except someone's personal viewpoint.

Dave

Yeah, but the the "someone" has qualifications that you or I do NOT
have,
their opinions may reflect facts.

There are many more 'just-as-qualified' somebodies writing articles
for "Parameters". Record is no more qualified than most of the
authors. He simply said something in a forum which the Washington Post
could use to reflect its agenda.

In other words: "selective journalism".

Dave

Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 

I'm curious: What do you do when you see an article about bilge pumps and
you don't want to read it because it doesn't interest you? Or, an article
about removing stains from gel coat?

"It's a new year!" wrote in message
news:g8fNb.50864$sv6.127289@attbi_s52...
John, I agree with many of your political positions, but if you want to
see
this group get back to boating topics, it might be best if you ignore the
political posts. You will not change anyone minds and the OT posts are
ruining this NG.

Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 

On 14 Jan 2004 05:05:57 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

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Again, the Army War College said nothing. Read the article. The war
college published the report. It didn't write it and disclaimed
agreement with it.

No, I didn't make the above statement. That is a title. I just don't
understand the right. It wouldn't matter if someone caught Bush
killing a cat with his bare hands, on tape, with sound, and perfect
video. You all would still say the person who took the video was a
left wing, unpatriotic liar!!!


No, you're comparing apples and oranges here. If someone brought forth
hard evidence that a crime had been committed, then there would be no
arguments.

But you have done nothing more than quote the OPINION of someone else.
Opinions are always suspect, and there is certainly no guarantee that
it in any way reflects anything other the writer's personal feelings
and bias.

Dave

Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:40:05 GMT, "It's a new year!"
wrote:

Dave,
Let's follow the suggestion of a few others and try to ignore all OT posts.
There are a ton of political NG's for those who want to argue with those we
disagree with.

That's a tough call. I tried it, but when it becomes glaringly obvious
that many on the opposite side of the fence are so blatantly fooled
by the writings of people with less than stellar credibility, and who
believe in an ideology that's just... well, Idealistic, I feel
compelled to bring the voice of reason and logic to the table to
temper this seemingly emotionally driven blindness that afflicts these
same people.

You will note that I have never started a political thread. I just
jump in when the level of gullibility reaches the outer limits. If the
OT threads stop, then my participation in them will also stop.

Dave

Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 

John H wrote in message . ..
On 14 Jan 2004 05:05:57 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 13 Jan 2004 04:27:24 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:


Did you not make the following statement?

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Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
************************************************** *******

Again, the Army War College said nothing. Read the article. The war
college published the report. It didn't write it and disclaimed
agreement with it.

No, I didn't make the above statement. That is a title. I just don't
understand the right. It wouldn't matter if someone caught Bush
killing a cat with his bare hands, on tape, with sound, and perfect
video. You all would still say the person who took the video was a
left wing, unpatriotic liar!!!

In my computer, when I post a new message, I type the title. In doing
so I am making a statement. You, for example, could have titled your
post:

*Jeffrey Record says Iraq "unnecessary"*

But that wouldn't be much of an attention grabber, would it? Therefore
you chose to make the statement you did, which was a lie.

In your example, I would entitle the piece something like:

*Bush kills rabid cat with bare hands, thus protecting hundreds of
spectators who were soon to be bitten*

See how easy it is to be honest?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

It is a TITLE, John. Nothing more. Nothing less. Now, if in the body
of the piece, I said that I *knew for a fact* that the War College
says Iraq war unneccessary, that would be different. But, again, your
too far right, with too tight of blinders to see anything but your
BushCo agenda. Again, I can't believe how you rights can't see
anything but that.

OT: Army War College says Iraq "unneccesary"
 

John H wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 18:18:21 -0500, "Marty S."
wrote:


Note that it is a vehicle for continuing education and professional
development. Thus it is hardly a place to censor material to ensure
only one side of a story is told.

John H




That's a pretty naive thing to say. If the publisher of a journal disagrees
with a particular position, whether academic, scientific, or political, then
it won't publish the article.

I'm not defending or condeming the article in question -- I haven't read it.
I don't have a dog in this fight. But, what you said, John, is just not the
way the world works.

Marty, are you implying that the Army War College agrees with
everything in the article?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John, are you implying that the Army War College DISagrees with
everything in the article?