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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:28:20 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


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But the sheer amount of money it took to buy the 31 Fisharound -


I *love* that boat, Tom. That one's on my wish list.

I bought a 25' center console with forward cuddy. I like it because helm
the helm is further aft than in the walkarounds, and I can fish a lot of
people over the sides without a windshield in the way. However, it's not
as
versatile as the Fisharound.

Thanks - I like it a lot. It's a compromise - my wife wanted
something like a Grand Banks or Silverton. EEWWWWWW!!!!

The cabin area is very nice too - surprising how much room it has.

I always thought the forward cuddy was a great idea. Mako built one
for a few years as did Boston Whaler, but Contender was about the only
one who actually kept one in the line.


Pursuit had one too. Yellowfin has a 34' and Marlago has a 35'. I think
Scarab has one also.



http://www.contender.com/fleet_31F.asp

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:28:20 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


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But the sheer amount of money it took to buy the 31 Fisharound -


I *love* that boat, Tom. That one's on my wish list.

I bought a 25' center console with forward cuddy. I like it because
helm
the helm is further aft than in the walkarounds, and I can fish a lot of
people over the sides without a windshield in the way. However, it's
not as
versatile as the Fisharound.

Thanks - I like it a lot. It's a compromise - my wife wanted
something like a Grand Banks or Silverton. EEWWWWWW!!!!

The cabin area is very nice too - surprising how much room it has.

I always thought the forward cuddy was a great idea. Mako built one
for a few years as did Boston Whaler, but Contender was about the only
one who actually kept one in the line.


Pursuit had one too. Yellowfin has a 34' and Marlago has a 35'. I think
Scarab has one also.



http://www.contender.com/fleet_31F.asp

The ultimate fisharound:
http://www.pelagicboats.com/

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


The ultimate fisharound:
http://www.pelagicboats.com/

Yes, indeed. I saw an article on that boat sometime last year, and I
thought...at last, an offshore walkwaround.

If I were moving back to Florida, though, I'd probably conentrate on
inshore fishing, mainly in the ICW, where the ideal fishing boat is a 19'
Carolina Skiff and a 100 hp four stroie, with a good salt water trolling
motor at the bow. Lots of species, lots of fish, lots of different ways to
fish, and you really don't have to worry much about chop. Light tackle
fishing is the way to go.


Fuel costs are a lot less too. There are a lot of good "bay boats" on the
market now that are dual purpose. Down here, you almost need two boats
though. One to run offshore, and one to run the shallows. I have a 25'
Outrage Cuddy for offshore and a 17' Outrage for backwater and nearshore.
When the Tarpon and Snook are on the beaches in Spring and early summer, I
use the 17'. The 17' Outrage isn't really a good backwater boat (drafts too
much), but I bought it before the 25' and I like it too much to sell. It's
one boat that I'll probably repower 2 or 3 times and never sell. I'm
thinking of adding Lenco trolling tabs to it so that I can fish the
mangroves easier when the water is too rough to go offshore.

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:12:06 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:28:20 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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But the sheer amount of money it took to buy the 31 Fisharound -


I *love* that boat, Tom. That one's on my wish list.

I bought a 25' center console with forward cuddy. I like it because helm
the helm is further aft than in the walkarounds, and I can fish a lot of
people over the sides without a windshield in the way. However, it's not
as
versatile as the Fisharound.

Thanks - I like it a lot. It's a compromise - my wife wanted
something like a Grand Banks or Silverton. EEWWWWWW!!!!

The cabin area is very nice too - surprising how much room it has.

I always thought the forward cuddy was a great idea. Mako built one
for a few years as did Boston Whaler, but Contender was about the only
one who actually kept one in the line.


Pursuit had one too. Yellowfin has a 34' and Marlago has a 35'. I think
Scarab has one also.

Pursuit has one in a 26' - we looked at that one. I didn't know about
the Yellowfin - ain't never heard tell about Marlago. I think you get
up into 35' for a CC, that's a little large. The other Contender was
a handful sometimes for a CC and that was 31' +/-.

I've seen the Scarab's - didn't like them all that much. I'm not to
impressed with the Fountain's either.

Later,

Tom

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:28:16 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:28:20 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


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But the sheer amount of money it took to buy the 31 Fisharound -


I *love* that boat, Tom. That one's on my wish list.

I bought a 25' center console with forward cuddy. I like it because
helm
the helm is further aft than in the walkarounds, and I can fish a lot of
people over the sides without a windshield in the way. However, it's
not as
versatile as the Fisharound.

Thanks - I like it a lot. It's a compromise - my wife wanted
something like a Grand Banks or Silverton. EEWWWWWW!!!!

The cabin area is very nice too - surprising how much room it has.

I always thought the forward cuddy was a great idea. Mako built one
for a few years as did Boston Whaler, but Contender was about the only
one who actually kept one in the line.


Pursuit had one too. Yellowfin has a 34' and Marlago has a 35'. I think
Scarab has one also.



http://www.contender.com/fleet_31F.asp

The ultimate fisharound:
http://www.pelagicboats.com/

Too big. Although its a neat concept.

Later,

Tom

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:35:02 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:


The ultimate fisharound:
http://www.pelagicboats.com/



Yes, indeed. I saw an article on that boat sometime last year, and I
thought...at last, an offshore walkwaround.

If I were moving back to Florida, though, I'd probably conentrate on
inshore fishing, mainly in the ICW, where the ideal fishing boat is a
19' Carolina Skiff and a 100 hp four stroie, with a good salt water
trolling motor at the bow. Lots of species, lots of fish, lots of
different ways to fish, and you really don't have to worry much about
chop. Light tackle fishing is the way to go.

My Ranger would be perfect for that.

I'll let you have it cheap. :)

Later,

Tom

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:35:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Thanks - I like it a lot. It's a compromise - my wife wanted
something like a Grand Banks or Silverton. EEWWWWWW!!!!

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Big difference between a GB and a Silverbayarver...

Personally I still miss my Bertram 33 but I'll get over it.

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:21:02 -0500, Harry Krause
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NOYB wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:28:20 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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But the sheer amount of money it took to buy the 31 Fisharound -


I *love* that boat, Tom. That one's on my wish list.

I bought a 25' center console with forward cuddy. I like it because helm
the helm is further aft than in the walkarounds, and I can fish a lot of
people over the sides without a windshield in the way. However, it's not
as
versatile as the Fisharound.

Thanks - I like it a lot. It's a compromise - my wife wanted
something like a Grand Banks or Silverton. EEWWWWWW!!!!

The cabin area is very nice too - surprising how much room it has.

I always thought the forward cuddy was a great idea. Mako built one
for a few years as did Boston Whaler, but Contender was about the only
one who actually kept one in the line.



Pursuit had one too. Yellowfin has a 34' and Marlago has a 35'. I think
Scarab has one also.




Just to get back to the topic in the header, I took a look at the 260
Defiance, and find it nothing like our Parker. The Defiance has a euro
transom, is narrower, is ugly (Parkers are homely, not ugly), and
resembles a camper inside. But it is an okay boat.

I don't know about "ugly" - it's a strange looking boat.

It's that bow that makes it look so weird.

As to the transom, that Euro swale looks nice on some boats, but I
agree, it's WAY over used in some designs.

Did you look at the interior layout? Interesting design. I'm not
convinced how practical it would be for a fishing boat.

Later,

Tom

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:14:08 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


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NOYB wrote:

I paid $14,900 (taxes, rigging included) for a 250 Suzuki. The trailer
is
probably $3500. That means they're selling that boat for almost $65k.
That seems like a lot of money for a 26' boat.

**********

It's a lot of money, but it's not out of whack with comparable
offerings. In fact, just try to find
anything except an open runabout for less than $50k in a new boat. Hard
to do. I just happened across an ad for an eight year old Grady White,
26', with an asking price of $47,000.


I paid $18k for my boat. I got 150 hours out of the original motor
before I blew the powerhead. I repowered with the Suzuki, and now have a
brand new motor pushing a very solid, functional 25' (center console with
forward cuddy) for $33k. I just can't see shelling out another $40-50
for the same boat new.

I'm glad there are people willing to buy new...'cause it sure makes it
nice when I can buy it cheap *after* all of the depreciation.

Darn, and I was going to offer you my Parker for $60,000.

That's not a bad price, but I'm waiting for Shortwave Sportfishing to offer
to sell me his Contender 31' Fisharound for $60k. ;-)

HAH!!!

Maybe in 25 years, you can buy it from my estate for that. :)

Later,

Tom

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:07:04 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:35:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Thanks - I like it a lot. It's a compromise - my wife wanted
something like a Grand Banks or Silverton. EEWWWWWW!!!!

===============================================

Big difference between a GB and a Silverbayarver...

Personally I still miss my Bertram 33 but I'll get over it.

Well, it's a long story, but the short of it is that "we" needed to
have a boat which "we" could use for short trips to the Islands. "We"
really needed something with more creature comforts for those trips
than was provided by the Contender CC. So "we" wanted to sell "our"
boat and purchase something like "that boat over there" which was a
Silverton something or other. Or "that boat over there" which was a
Grand Banks.

I convinced her to go with this as she's not much of a First Mate on
fishing expeditions. So now "our" boat has morphed back into "my"
boat upon which she will occasionally deign to grace with her
presence. As long as she get's to go to the Islands, she's fine. :)

Later,

Tom