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How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us
Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,
said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what
SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he
said,
came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into
multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a
former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and
classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact
Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President
George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half
of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas
A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas
Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library
cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70
million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than
for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165

million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for
political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the
cost of
security for today's inauguration?

I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.

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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us
Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,
said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what
SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he
said,
came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into
multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a
former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and
classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact
Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President
George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half
of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas
A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas
Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library
cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70
million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than
for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165

million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for
political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the
cost of
security for today's inauguration?

I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.

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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us
Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,
said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what
SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he
said,
came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into
multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a
former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and
classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact
Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President
George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half
of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas
A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas
Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library
cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70
million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than
for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165

million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for
political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the
cost of
security for today's inauguration?

I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.


Sorry for losing it with you but discussing things with you is like talking
to a brick wall sometimes.

Let me try again, this time with questions:

Now where did this $40 million figure come from? I thought you were upset
about the $17 million.

What was the cost of the Clinton inaugurations? How much public and private
money? Were there not disaster relief funds then that the money could have
gone to?

And just how much money has the US given and pledged to the Tsunami victims?
How much in private donations?

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it is.
Get over it already.

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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us
Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,
said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what
SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he
said,
came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into
multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a
former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and
classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact
Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President
George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half
of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas
A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas
Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library
cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70
million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than
for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165

million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for
political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the
cost of
security for today's inauguration?

I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.


Sorry for losing it with you but discussing things with you is like
talking to a brick wall sometimes.

Let me try again, this time with questions:

Now where did this $40 million figure come from? I thought you were
upset about the $17 million.

What was the cost of the Clinton inaugurations? How much public and
private money? Were there not disaster relief funds then that the money
could have gone to?

And just how much money has the US given and pledged to the Tsunami
victims? How much in private donations?

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it is.
Get over it already.

Asslicker is just doing the liebral goose step......as well as letting
jealousy interfer with his two brain cells......or was that the THC?

JimH wrote:


Sorry for losing it with you but discussing things with you is like
talking
to a brick wall sometimes.

Let me try again, this time with questions:

Now where did this $40 million figure come from?

It's the estimated cost of the whole event. Most comes from private
donations that could be used for better purposes at this time, if Bush
would make a stand to do so. Armor for the soldier's vehicles. Directly
related to Bush, he sent them there. Flak jackets for same. Food,
medical support, etc. for Tsunami victims.

I thought you were upset
about the $17 million.

I am. That portion is directly related to you and I, the taxpayers. I
thought you righties were for lower taxes?

What was the cost of the Clinton inaugurations? How much public and
private
money? Were there not disaster relief funds then that the money
could have
gone to?

$30 million, and that INCLUDED security. Clinton didn't need as much
security, of course, because he didn't **** off the whole world. I'm
sure there are disasters that could have used the money, BUT, what you
are failing to grasp here, is the fact that Bush actually SAID that the
private sector should be the ones donating relief to the Tsunami
victims. IF he was a man of honor, he'd have used this time to show how
that could be done.

And just how much money has the US given and pledged to the Tsunami
victims?

$350 million, a virtual drop in the bucket.

How much in private donations?

Estimated to be $322 from the U.S. alone. This does NOT count for any
private donations outside of the U.S.

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it
is.
Get over it already.

I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.

"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:


Sorry for losing it with you but discussing things with you is like
talking
to a brick wall sometimes.

Let me try again, this time with questions:

Now where did this $40 million figure come from?

It's the estimated cost of the whole event. Most comes from private
donations that could be used for better purposes at this time, if Bush
would make a stand to do so. Armor for the soldier's vehicles. Directly
related to Bush, he sent them there. Flak jackets for same. Food,
medical support, etc. for Tsunami victims.

I thought you were upset
about the $17 million.

I am. That portion is directly related to you and I, the taxpayers. I
thought you righties were for lower taxes?

What was the cost of the Clinton inaugurations? How much public and
private
money? Were there not disaster relief funds then that the money
could have
gone to?

$30 million, and that INCLUDED security. Clinton didn't need as much
security, of course, because he didn't **** off the whole world. I'm
sure there are disasters that could have used the money, BUT, what you
are failing to grasp here, is the fact that Bush actually SAID that the
private sector should be the ones donating relief to the Tsunami
victims. IF he was a man of honor, he'd have used this time to show how
that could be done.

And just how much money has the US given and pledged to the Tsunami
victims?

$350 million, a virtual drop in the bucket.

How much in private donations?

Estimated to be $322 from the U.S. alone. This does NOT count for any
private donations outside of the U.S.

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it
is.
Get over it already.

I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.


I interject Clinton only as a comparison. You find that unfair? How so?

Here is a nice news story for you on US emergency relief donations:

"....foreign assistance for development and emergency relief rose from $10
billion in President Clinton's last year to $24 billion under President Bush
in 2003. Secretary of State Colin Powell said assistance for this week's
earthquake and tsunamis alone will eventually exceed $1 billion. "

Back to the discussion. You failed to answer these questions:

What was the breakdown of public and private money spent for the Clinton
inaugural in 1996?

Were there disasters in 1996 that the private money could have been donated
to instead of the inaugural?

And a new question. Of the $17 million spent on security for the GWB 2nd
inaugural, how much involved permanent security hardware and upgrades that
will continue to improve security in DC for years to come?

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it
is.
Get over it already.

I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.


You are right. I should not have brought up the cost of Clinton's 1997
inaugural event and compared it the this recent one. 9-11 had not yet
happened in January 1997 and thus no need for high security and tremendous
security costs. Therefore it is not fair to compare the two.

Sorry. My mistake.

JimH wrote:

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like
it
is.
Get over it already.

I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never
will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation
you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.


You are right. I should not have brought up the cost of Clinton's
1997
inaugural event and compared it the this recent one. 9-11 had not
yet
happened in January 1997 and thus no need for high security and
tremendous
security costs. Therefore it is not fair to compare the two.

Sorry. My mistake.

911 has nothing to do with it. There was, during Clinton's term, just
as much a chance that THAT could happen, as there is now. What IS
different, is that BushCo has succeeded in dividing the U.S. into a
lone entity, essentially ****ing off the rest of the world.

"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like
it
is.
Get over it already.

I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never
will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation
you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.


You are right. I should not have brought up the cost of Clinton's
1997
inaugural event and compared it the this recent one. 9-11 had not
yet
happened in January 1997 and thus no need for high security and
tremendous
security costs. Therefore it is not fair to compare the two.

Sorry. My mistake.

911 has nothing to do with it. There was, during Clinton's term, just
as much a chance that THAT could happen, as there is now.

You obviously cannot discuss the facts and therefore there is no reason to
continue this discussion with you.

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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us
Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,
said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what
SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he
said,
came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into
multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a
former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and
classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact
Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President
George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half
of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas
A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas
Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library
cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70
million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than
for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165

million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for
political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the
cost of
security for today's inauguration?

I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.

For asslicker........the NG is his life.