wrote in message
oups.com...
snip
.. I hereby withdraw one of the negative
thoughts I may have had about you.

Keep it handy...I'm sure you'll need it again....and again....and
again......

Harry Krause wrote:
K. Smith wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

wrote:

The Parker, to my eye, is a slightly better looking boat.

While form is junior to function, the cabin top on the Zimmerman is too
long and flat. It's hard to tell from the stern quarter view, but if
there's much vertical curve at all in that sheer line the boat boat
will appear to have been designed by a group of separate committees.




Ahh...Zimmerman actually is a boat finisher, and at a high level. He
buys some of his hulls from Maine fiberglass fabricators, and I think
he buys some tops there, too. Most of the hull forms are Spencer
Lincoln designs. Lincoln designs hulls for many Maine builders. What
he does is build a very, very plush and heavy lobster boat cruiser.

One Lincoln hull design for a 36' lobster boat planes at more than 50
mph, with an 800 or 900 hp diesel.


The Parker superstructre is slightly chunky forward, but not
objectionably so. The stubby house and foredeck permit a far more
fishable cockpit in this vessel with a modest LOA.




The downside of these far-forward pilothouses is that you know when
you're in choppy water. That's one of the reasons why I ordered mine
with the optional rear control station. Though it is adjacent to the
starboard gunnel, it is situated about where a center console would
be...so when the water chops up, if you drive the boat from the rear
station, it's like driving a center console, and you're where the
boat up and down movement is minimal. The problem is, you can't
really see over the cabin top too well, so you kinda peer around the
cabin.

The rear control station is great for trolling and for docking, though.


Just saving:-)

K



Good for you, Mama Tuuk.



No but seriously for a minute Krause did you really think lying you &
your similarly dishonest lying mates would get away with "investing" in
a charter boat???? when the money actually belongs to honest hard
working unionists????

Then to just underline your arrogance you organised a charter boat
which doesn't even have a US union built motor???? Too much!!!! you
finally went too far!!!!

I still hope I live to see a pic of you getting escorted to court in
handcuffs, yes I know you'll be OK because of your mental illness
history but still I'll giggle, damn I'm giggling now just thinking about
it:-)

K

So another dork goes to the killfile for humoring Krause.

Sigh.

Mudfish

"K. Smith" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
K. Smith wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

wrote:

The Parker, to my eye, is a slightly better looking boat.

While form is junior to function, the cabin top on the Zimmerman is
too
long and flat. It's hard to tell from the stern quarter view, but if
there's much vertical curve at all in that sheer line the boat boat
will appear to have been designed by a group of separate committees.




Ahh...Zimmerman actually is a boat finisher, and at a high level. He
buys some of his hulls from Maine fiberglass fabricators, and I think
he buys some tops there, too. Most of the hull forms are Spencer
Lincoln designs. Lincoln designs hulls for many Maine builders. What he
does is build a very, very plush and heavy lobster boat cruiser.

One Lincoln hull design for a 36' lobster boat planes at more than 50
mph, with an 800 or 900 hp diesel.


The Parker superstructre is slightly chunky forward, but not
objectionably so. The stubby house and foredeck permit a far more
fishable cockpit in this vessel with a modest LOA.




The downside of these far-forward pilothouses is that you know when
you're in choppy water. That's one of the reasons why I ordered mine
with the optional rear control station. Though it is adjacent to the
starboard gunnel, it is situated about where a center console would
be...so when the water chops up, if you drive the boat from the rear
station, it's like driving a center console, and you're where the boat
up and down movement is minimal. The problem is, you can't really see
over the cabin top too well, so you kinda peer around the cabin.

The rear control station is great for trolling and for docking, though.


Just saving:-)

K



Good for you, Mama Tuuk.



No but seriously for a minute Krause did you really think lying you & your
similarly dishonest lying mates would get away with "investing" in a
charter boat???? when the money actually belongs to honest hard working
unionists????

Then to just underline your arrogance you organised a charter boat which
doesn't even have a US union built motor???? Too much!!!! you finally went
too far!!!!

I still hope I live to see a pic of you getting escorted to court in
handcuffs, yes I know you'll be OK because of your mental illness history
but still I'll giggle, damn I'm giggling now just thinking about it:-)

K

Yup

You can always tell when krause gets caught in a lie,,, he flings insults,,

krause you are a sore loser,, Not just plain loser, fat loser, old senile
loser but sore loser,, have you fallen off your meds again/?/? OO,, Better
get Hazel ,,,














"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
K. Smith wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

wrote:

The Parker, to my eye, is a slightly better looking boat.

While form is junior to function, the cabin top on the Zimmerman is too
long and flat. It's hard to tell from the stern quarter view, but if
there's much vertical curve at all in that sheer line the boat boat
will appear to have been designed by a group of separate committees.



Ahh...Zimmerman actually is a boat finisher, and at a high level. He
buys some of his hulls from Maine fiberglass fabricators, and I think he
buys some tops there, too. Most of the hull forms are Spencer Lincoln
designs. Lincoln designs hulls for many Maine builders. What he does is
build a very, very plush and heavy lobster boat cruiser.

One Lincoln hull design for a 36' lobster boat planes at more than 50
mph, with an 800 or 900 hp diesel.


The Parker superstructre is slightly chunky forward, but not
objectionably so. The stubby house and foredeck permit a far more
fishable cockpit in this vessel with a modest LOA.



The downside of these far-forward pilothouses is that you know when
you're in choppy water. That's one of the reasons why I ordered mine
with the optional rear control station. Though it is adjacent to the
starboard gunnel, it is situated about where a center console would
be...so when the water chops up, if you drive the boat from the rear
station, it's like driving a center console, and you're where the boat
up and down movement is minimal. The problem is, you can't really see
over the cabin top too well, so you kinda peer around the cabin.

The rear control station is great for trolling and for docking, though.


Just saving:-)

K


Good for you, Mama Tuuk.

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Interesting boats, but my Parker ain't that model, and my lobster boat
ain't a Zimmerman.

Hertvik, of course, is boatless.


Boatless you say??? Then why is he here harassing 'real' boaters?



Why are you here? You just got a boat. And you have been here spouting
harassment for a lot longer than you were a boat owner.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:P1WDd.1609
Why are you here? You just got a boat. And you have been here spouting
harassment for a lot longer than you were a boat owner.


Careful, if you stand too close to JimH you'll catch his disease.
I bought my first sailboat (Siren 17) in the summer of '84. That may not be
impressive to an old fart like you, but just proves that you are wrong
again.
note; although I just purchased the Sandpiper in May, I owned my CL 14 from
2000 til summer of '04. Before that I had a couple of smaller boats.

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:P1WDd.1609
Why are you here? You just got a boat. And you have been here spouting
harassment for a lot longer than you were a boat owner.


Careful, if you stand too close to JimH you'll catch his disease.

I will not stoop to your level by returning a personal insult.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:P1WDd.1609

Why are you here? You just got a boat. And you have been here spouting
harassment for a lot longer than you were a boat owner.



Careful, if you stand too close to JimH you'll catch his disease.
I bought my first sailboat (Siren 17) in the summer of '84. That may not
be
impressive to an old fart like you, but just proves that you are wrong
again.
note; although I just purchased the Sandpiper in May, I owned my CL 14
from
2000 til summer of '04. Before that I had a couple of smaller boats.



Bile's a drunk, and therefore you'll have to excuse his frequent memory
lapses.


Again as always, you are wrong!

wrote in message
ups.com...
And yes Krause, after 25 years of boat ownership I am presently
boatless,
although I do own an Achilles.


*********

Your dog doesn't count. All the neighbors are laughing as you attempt
obedience training,
"Achilles, heel!"



I knew you had a sense of humor Chuck. Glad to see the positive side of you
for once. ;-)

wrote in message
oups.com...
The Parker, to my eye, is a slightly better looking boat.

While form is junior to function, the cabin top on the Zimmerman is too
long and flat. It's hard to tell from the stern quarter view, but if
there's much vertical curve at all in that sheer line the boat boat
will appear to have been designed by a group of separate committees.

The Parker superstructre is slightly chunky forward, but not
objectionably so. The stubby house and foredeck permit a far more
fishable cockpit in this vessel with a modest LOA.

How wonderful to see you post a boating topic, rather than a personal
attack on another NG poster. I hereby withdraw one of the negative
thoughts I may have had about you.


Actually I have refrain from any personal attacks (unlike you) recently and
have posted several boating threads recently.

As far as the boats Krause claims to own I prefer neither for boating on
Lake Erie. One is too utilitarian.....the other too ornate......both are
unfriendly for my needs.

We have always enjoyed a variety of activities on our boats in the Great
Lakes, including fishing, water sports, cruising and entertaining. We also
loved the experience of having our children grow up on the boats (literally)
and spending weekends and vacations on the boats with them.

As our kids have outgrown that stage, and as my wife is no longer able to
serve as First Mate due to her physical illness, we will most likely
purchase an express cruiser in the 25 to 27 foot range (one I can handle by
myself) down the road when we purchase our waterfront property. Until then
we will still enjoy the Lake (we live only blocks from it) with our friends
who invite us out on their boats.

That being said, and getting back to the original discussion, I would love
to see pictures of Harry's custom made 36 foot lobster boat. especially
since he has already posted pictures of and bragged about his 25 foot
rather bland fishing boat.

What say you Harry?