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Harry Krause January 11th 04 01:29 PM

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Maynard G. Krebbs wrote:
snip

Well, we do need to ensure that after Castro, the exiles don't go back
and try to assert some "rights" they think they have.


I heard from someone who had been to Cuba often that the Cubans aren't
going to have somebody in power who fled to the US and missed the
"Hard Times" under Castro. Maybe it was on one of the boat groups,
now that I think about it.
Mark E. Williams


Well, for sure. And the Cubans will also not tolerate the return of
those who merely want to exploit the concepts of land ownership
(ownership for the rich only) or to re-establish semi-slave labor. They
had that under Batista.

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Steven Shelikoff January 11th 04 02:12 PM

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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:07:38 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Steven Shelikoff wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:26:24 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Jim Carter wrote:

"Joseph Stachyra" wrote
(snip )
Most of you, do not even know, nuclear bombs are also placed in special
torpedoes, of which it would not take more than two to take out Cuba !!!

Please, don't even think that about Cuba. It is a beautiful country and I
am going boating there, in February, for my annual winter vaction!!!!

Jim Carter
"The Boat"
Bayfield


Good grief. Cuba. Why are we still at war with Cuba? If there is a
dumber American foreign policy than what we've done with Cuba for the
last half-century, I'm unaware of it.


We're at war with Cuba? That I was unaware of.


Don't be so literal, Steve. It doesn't become you.


It was more sarcastic than literal.

Even today, Bush is kissing the ass of the PRC and horrific
dictatorships all over the world, but is kicking Cuba in the ass.


We just need to strip the Cuban exiles in this country of their right to
vote and then we can all visit Cuba and spend our money there legally.


Well, we do need to ensure that after Castro, the exiles don't go back
and try to assert some "rights" they think they have.


Why do "we" need to ensure that? The Cubans can handle that for
themselves.

Steve

Dan Thomas January 12th 04 01:16 AM

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"Terry Rago" wrote in message news:eKTKb.766800$Tr4.2203780@attbi_s03...
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Fascinating. What does the depth indicator say when the sub is surfaced?
Obviously it would not be zero.

That would depend on how far it surfaced. Did it blow all ballast or is
it just barely surfaced?

Steve



It can't blow enough ballast to put the keel on the surface. My point is

merely
that if the depth is measured between the surface and the keel, (and I

have no
reason to doubt that it is) there could never be a "zero" reading.


There is never a "Zero" reading, when on the surface it
is mid to high 30's depending on the type of sub. Also
for safety sake we never surface a little bit, when we
surface all ballast is blown.

Terry


Airplane altimeters read zero only if the airplane is taxying
into the ocean. Or flying deep in Death Valley or the Dead Sea Valley.
Zero isn't necessary for operators of subs or airplanes or anything
else. I can see that depth to keel would be safest, with reference to
depth charts. In aviation we use maps with obstruction and terrain
altitudes on them.
This complete surfacing of subs: Is this due to the neutral
lateral stability at certain waterlines? I read about that somewhere,
some book that referred to the danger of submerging in really rough
seas and the danger of rollover.

Dan

Rick January 12th 04 04:00 AM

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Dan Thomas wrote:

Airplane altimeters read zero only if the airplane is taxying
into the ocean. Or flying deep in Death Valley or the Dead Sea Valley.
Zero isn't necessary for operators of subs or airplanes or anything
else. I can see that depth to keel would be safest, with reference to
depth charts. In aviation we use maps with obstruction and terrain
altitudes on them.


Perhaps you would like to look up QNH and QFE and get back
to us.

Rick



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