On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:00:24 GMT, "It's a new year!" wrote:

Gould,

In reference to my black and white comment, no one is saying that all
conservatives are smart and all democrats are dumb.

Actually, if you check the archives of this newsgroup, you'll find that there
*are* those who are saying that, and more.

Joe Parsons


It is also important to
realize that a vast majority of conservatives do not listen to the talking
heads. It is also important to realize that many of the listeners to Rush
Limbaugh et all are liberals and moderates. The "talking heads" are in the
business of generating an audience and pushing hot buttons. It does not
matter if you agree or disagree as long as you listen.


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The only people I know who like to parrot the talk radio folks are not
capable of thinking for themselves, and they are on both sides of the
political fence.

I have seen studies that show a substantially higher percent of college

educated people are conservative and a substantially higher percent of
those

who vote democratic have only completed high school or less.

That sure seems logical. The audience for Limbaugh, Savage, etc is made up
of
Phd's?

Must be primarily uneducated Democrats listening to those radio shows,
since,
as you observed, people capable of independent thought don't need to be
spoon-fed a philosophy.

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"jps" wrote in message
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"It's a new year!" wrote in message
news:IjWKb.244489$8y1.1127737@attbi_s52...
The only people I know who like to parrot the talk radio folks are not
capable of thinking for themselves, and they are on both sides of the
political fence.

I have seen studies that show a substantially higher percent of
college
educated people are conservative

That's true for those with "some college" and "undergrad degrees". The
numbers are more even for those with "graduate degrees". Interestingly,
I
saw a story the other day that said that women are more likely to vote
Democrat as they achieve higher levels of education...and men are more
likely to vote Republican as they achieve higher levels of education.
They
go in the complete opposite direction!?

The only conclusion I could reach from this is that Harry has a vagina.

That speaks to your ability to synthesize information and draw
conclusions.

Way to go.

And your response speaks to your ability to recognize tongue-in-cheek humor.


It wasn't funny, which speaks to your ability to create humor.

Further, it's the only conclusion you were able to draw from what seems
pretty fertile information.

"It's a new year!" wrote:

Gould,

In reference to my black and white comment, no one is saying that all
conservatives are smart and all democrats are dumb.

Actually there are a number of self-labelled 'conservatives' who regularly
pollute this newsgroup with exactly such statements.


...It is also important to realize that many of the listeners to Rush
Limbaugh et all are liberals and moderates.

I don't believe that for a second. The only people who listen to Rush Limbaugh
for more than a few moments are people who are either 1- hypnotized by his
retardo-fascist twaddle... or 2- people like me who are occasionally trapped in
a room with a bunch of drooling ditto heads.


The "talking heads" are in the
business of generating an audience and pushing hot buttons. It does not
matter if you agree or disagree as long as you listen.

For commercial purposes, sure. For political purposes, it maintains or increases
the current atmosphere where news is "fair & balanced" if it panders to the
right wing fantasy dwellers, and character assassination is praised as
campaigning.

DSK

"It's a new year!" wrote:

Gould,

In reference to my black and white comment, no one is saying that all
conservatives are smart and all democrats are dumb.

Actually there are a number of self-labelled 'conservatives' who regularly
pollute this newsgroup with exactly such statements.


...It is also important to realize that many of the listeners to Rush
Limbaugh et all are liberals and moderates.

I don't believe that for a second. The only people who listen to Rush Limbaugh
for more than a few moments are people who are either 1- hypnotized by his
retardo-fascist twaddle... or 2- people like me who are occasionally trapped in
a room with a bunch of drooling ditto heads.


The "talking heads" are in the
business of generating an audience and pushing hot buttons. It does not
matter if you agree or disagree as long as you listen.

For commercial purposes, sure. For political purposes, it maintains or increases
the current atmosphere where news is "fair & balanced" if it panders to the
right wing fantasy dwellers, and character assassination is praised as
campaigning.

DSK

Do you really see the world in as the black and white you conveyed in this
message?


Your right wing radio stations go out of their way to polarize every issue.
"You're either with us, or against us. You either worship the ground Bush walks
on, or you're a friggin' socialist traitor. You either express enthusiastic
support for the war in Iraq, or you wish for our servicemen and women to be
killed. You either support tax cuts and acclerated deficit spending or you hope
the economy fails.....etc"

I see the liberal vs. conservative split in the US as an extremely polarized
issue, and am well aware of the side that has done the most to encourage the
hate and distrust. It's a multi-billion dollar a day industry catering to the
largest audience of
listeners to be found anyplace.

I think there's plenty of room in the world for dissenting opinions. They
should be encouraged. So, yes.....whatever the hate radio jockeys and their
devoted disciples represent (black or white) I would hope to be about as
opposite on the spectrum as can be.

On 08 Jan 2004 01:47:48 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Do you really see the world in as the black and white you conveyed in this
message?


Your right wing radio stations go out of their way to polarize every issue.
"You're either with us, or against us. You either worship the ground Bush walks
on, or you're a friggin' socialist traitor. You either express enthusiastic
support for the war in Iraq, or you wish for our servicemen and women to be
killed. You either support tax cuts and acclerated deficit spending or you hope
the economy fails.....etc"

I see the liberal vs. conservative split in the US as an extremely polarized
issue, and am well aware of the side that has done the most to encourage the
hate and distrust. It's a multi-billion dollar a day industry catering to the
largest audience of
listeners to be found anyplace.

I think there's plenty of room in the world for dissenting opinions. They
should be encouraged. So, yes.....whatever the hate radio jockeys and their
devoted disciples represent (black or white) I would hope to be about as
opposite on the spectrum as can be.

Chuck, you need to stay away from Hannity and Limbaugh. You'll have
hair growing in your palms in no time. Now, knock it off. Anyone with
any sense knows better than to let Rush or Sean disrupt their
serenity.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On 08 Jan 2004 01:47:48 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Do you really see the world in as the black and white you conveyed in this
message?


Your right wing radio stations go out of their way to polarize every issue.
"You're either with us, or against us. You either worship the ground Bush walks
on, or you're a friggin' socialist traitor. You either express enthusiastic
support for the war in Iraq, or you wish for our servicemen and women to be
killed. You either support tax cuts and acclerated deficit spending or you hope
the economy fails.....etc"

I see the liberal vs. conservative split in the US as an extremely polarized
issue, and am well aware of the side that has done the most to encourage the
hate and distrust.

But that's not possible. Mr. Bush is, by his own description, a "uniter, not a
divider."

Joe Parsons

It's a multi-billion dollar a day industry catering to the
largest audience of
listeners to be found anyplace.

I think there's plenty of room in the world for dissenting opinions. They
should be encouraged. So, yes.....whatever the hate radio jockeys and their
devoted disciples represent (black or white) I would hope to be about as
opposite on the spectrum as can be.

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 02:19:38 GMT, Joe Parsons
wrote:

On 08 Jan 2004 01:47:48 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Do you really see the world in as the black and white you conveyed in this
message?


Your right wing radio stations go out of their way to polarize every issue.
"You're either with us, or against us. You either worship the ground Bush walks
on, or you're a friggin' socialist traitor. You either express enthusiastic
support for the war in Iraq, or you wish for our servicemen and women to be
killed. You either support tax cuts and acclerated deficit spending or you hope
the economy fails.....etc"

I see the liberal vs. conservative split in the US as an extremely polarized
issue, and am well aware of the side that has done the most to encourage the
hate and distrust.

But that's not possible. Mr. Bush is, by his own description, a "uniter, not a
divider."

Joe Parsons

It's a multi-billion dollar a day industry catering to the
largest audience of
listeners to be found anyplace.

I think there's plenty of room in the world for dissenting opinions. They
should be encouraged. So, yes.....whatever the hate radio jockeys and their
devoted disciples represent (black or white) I would hope to be about as
opposite on the spectrum as can be.

Well, good evening Joseph. It's nice to see your lovely face in the
chat room tonight. We are all laid back now. No arguing, name-calling,
or anything negative. If you should read something negative, it was
undoubtedly posted erroneously.

Hope the weather in San Francisco (Diego, Clemente, Luis Obispo,
Rafael ??) is not too bad!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:28:58 -0500, John H wrote:

[snip]

I see the liberal vs. conservative split in the US as an extremely polarized
issue, and am well aware of the side that has done the most to encourage the
hate and distrust.

But that's not possible. Mr. Bush is, by his own description, a "uniter, not a
divider."

Joe Parsons

It's a multi-billion dollar a day industry catering to the
largest audience of
listeners to be found anyplace.

I think there's plenty of room in the world for dissenting opinions. They
should be encouraged. So, yes.....whatever the hate radio jockeys and their
devoted disciples represent (black or white) I would hope to be about as
opposite on the spectrum as can be.

Well, good evening Joseph. It's nice to see your lovely face in the
chat room tonight.

[ACCENT=AAAHNULT]

It's not a chat room.

[ACCENT=OFF]

We are all laid back now. No arguing, name-calling,
or anything negative. If you should read something negative, it was
undoubtedly posted erroneously.

Hope the weather in San Francisco (Diego, Clemente, Luis Obispo,
Rafael ??) is

That would be lovely Bethel Island and environs.

The Delta is indeed lovely this time of year.

New Years Eve at Caliente Isle Yacht Club (www.ciyc.org/pages/1/index.htm),
where SWMBO and I manned the bar for two hours. Nice deal: pour for two hours,
drink free for the rest of the night.

Rang in the new year, then toddled down to M/Y "Shangri-La," and cozy bunk.
About 0300, the heavens opened: the tintinnabulation of the rain on the tin roof
over the slip woke us up, but quite pleasantly. Not quite so pleasant the sound
of said tin roof being ripped off by 40 kt winds!

Still a nice start to the new year--spending it afloat.

Joe Parsons

Mr. Gould, You are guilty of the exact same thing you are accusing the
right of doing. You assume anyone who does not agree with you of being a
right wing borg, a Nazi and they are the reason for the downfall of America.


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Do you really see the world in as the black and white you conveyed in
this
message?


Your right wing radio stations go out of their way to polarize every
issue.
"You're either with us, or against us. You either worship the ground Bush
walks
on, or you're a friggin' socialist traitor. You either express
enthusiastic
support for the war in Iraq, or you wish for our servicemen and women to
be
killed. You either support tax cuts and acclerated deficit spending or you
hope
the economy fails.....etc"

I see the liberal vs. conservative split in the US as an extremely
polarized
issue, and am well aware of the side that has done the most to encourage
the
hate and distrust. It's a multi-billion dollar a day industry catering to
the
largest audience of
listeners to be found anyplace.

I think there's plenty of room in the world for dissenting opinions. They
should be encouraged. So, yes.....whatever the hate radio jockeys and
their
devoted disciples represent (black or white) I would hope to be about as
opposite on the spectrum as can be.