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NOYB December 9th 04 02:53 AM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:13:41 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On 08 Dec 2004 23:46:12 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Wayne.B

Good information, thanks. I can run down to FMB in about 45 mins from
here but had not realized there were big Tarpon offshore there.

There's big tarpon all along this coast.

Of all the species that I have in my log book, I don't have a tarpon.


I'm sure your list of "dont-haves" is a lot shorter than mine. ;-)


Ok, I'm not bragging here - just so that we understand each other.

And we'll keep this to sal****er game fish.

Billfish: Pacific/Atlantic Blue, black, white marlin - don't have a
striped or green. Atlantic/Pacific Sail, sword and a spearfish, but I
can't take credit for it because it didn't get tagged.


Tunas: All eight species.

Shark: Mako, blue, black tip, hammerhead, tiger.

Misc: Barracuda, wahoo, dolphin, snook, bonefish, permit, King
salmon, two species of grouper, striped bass

That's right off the top of my head - actually the most memorable fish
I've caught.


See! I told you your list of "never-caught" would be a lot shorter than
mine. The only fish in the tuna family that I've caught was a *big* little
tunny. Man they fight hard. He measured 37", and I suspect about
20-25lbs...but he fought like a 5 foot shark.

I've caught most of my prized catches this year: 5 1/2 foot blacktip shark
in January, 90-100 lb. Tarpon in April, several 20-30 lb. cobia in May, an
eight-foot nurse shark in June, and a 125lb (est.) striped marlin in August.
All but the marlin were caught within 5 miles of shore, and within 15 miles
of my home pass (you call them "inlets" on the East coast). The marlin came
out of the Pacific off of Los Cabos. Because of the heavy gear we used for
the Marlin, the tarpon fight seemed like a lot harder work-out.

I'm hoping to get a "smoker" king this year. I've caught several "snakes"
(skinny kings) the last few times out. I also hear the blackfin tuna are
out about 30-50 miles around the shrimp boats. I'm waiting for those things
to move to within 20-30 miles so I can target them.












Gould 0738 December 9th 04 05:50 AM

I purchased a new 97 35hp 3cyl Johnson outboard from them for around
3500.00, and paid them 500.00 extra for the extended 5yr warranty, When
it blew the powerhead I filed a claim and found out I didn't have an
extended warranty. They just pocketed the $$. When I showed the reciept
for the extended warranty They said, OH we didn't do the deal with you,
the dealership was under different ownership then. True story.
F... Jacobson's, They Suck! UD



http://community.webtv.net/capuglyda...inUglyDansJack



How long ago did this occur?

Would an "investigative report" from a local
publication be of any use? :-)

There are some very explicit laws in Washington State about extended warranty
claims. Among other options you can explore is taking your case to the
insurance commissioner. If the previous ownership didn't pay the insurance
premium for your claim, that puts them on the hook entirely.



Gould 0738 December 9th 04 07:15 AM

Chuck after the elections it was hoped you, jps etc & you know who
might at least accept the outcome & cut it back you haven't; if anything
you've gotten worse.


Bullshirts. But don't let the facts screw up a good rant. JPS hasn't posted
here in days, maybe weeks. There are several active OT threads currently
running where I have participated very little, or not at all. I don't believe
there is a current OT thread that I started. (Unless the States Rights thing
from about ten days ago is still running).

It's me:-) & expect I'll continue as long as you continue OT political
stuff, so we have a deal yes??



No, we don't have a deal. You can make yourself look silly as hell, no problem
by me. I'll post as I want, when I want, and if you want to flame the heck out
of me for it I'll simply take all the more pleasure in peeing you off. If I
post on topic, or off, it certainly will not have anything to do with your
opinions of me.

I gave up just as I did before your last election when Gore lost:-)
this NG is ruined by a few OT posters, you & Krause being the main players.


Once again, your allegations will not stand up if you check the archives. You
just admitted you hadn't frequented the NG for a long time ("gave up") and yet
you claim to be expert on the quantity and authorship of OT threads?

Come on chuckles it was a paid advertisement!! you got the heater cheap
I take it in exchange for spamming us??? Nice one Chuckles.


You don't get it. There are what, 25, 30, maybe 35 active boaters (tops) on the
NG?
Another 20 or so who don't boat but hang out to lob manure wads at Krause or
others considered "treasonous liberals"? I've never tried to sell a darn thing
on rec.boats. Even if I wanted to, there isn't enough mass to make a market for
anything.

While in Google, run a search on Karen Smith and "spam". Go back many,

many,
years. Extremely revealing.


Gee me selling anything at all??? If there are so many you'll have no
trouble pasting at least what say 3 examples??? go for it; if you can
I'll put my hands up to that, but I doubt you will.


You misunderstand. When one runs Karen Smith and "spam", they discover that the
charge of "spamming" is your stock attack on nearly everybody who has ever
posted to rec.boats and who is associated in any way with the marine business.
Your crusade against Dave Brown, your attacks on Peggie Hall, etc etc etc are
all there for everybody to see. You have helped run off several worthy
contributors to rec.boats over the years with your often vicious, frequently
relentless attacks, usually because the people hold a different professional
opinion than your own. Then you presume to blame the demise of the NG on
others.


You really are up yourself chucky, chuckys in love with chucky. I don't
need your permission or acceptance of anything I say or don't say. You
are a political OT & spam poster, so as far as I'm concerned fair game
in any circumstances.


You're entitled to your opinion. You're also entitled to appear obsessed and
consumed by it. What other conclusion can one draw when you can't resist
throwing up unprovoked personal attacks?
I must be always on your mind. Pity for you, if so.



Get this the OT spammer now says he can set the rules for complaining
about his OT & spam??? Not likely, the best I can do is when I feel so
inclined lob a grenade your way & I do & I will.


Yes, I'm sure you will. You have done very little else here for a number of
years. Your targets change, but your behavior does not.



I've seen what happens to the huge number of people who have politely
asked you to stop it, you Chuck, that's you personally, set upon them.


How about a single example? Either one of the "huge" number who have "politely
asked me to stop" or that I have "set upon" as a result?

I wouldn't if I were you:-) now I won't ignore your spam because I
can't be bothered with your protests.


It occurs to me, Karen, that your "protests" would have no effect except to
increase my credibilty among anybody familiar with your modus operandi and
track record.

Welcome back to the group. Protest, flame, insult, stalk, lie, rant, and lob
all the poison ink you choose. You believe you're on a mission, so I'll simply
leave you to it.
The great humor of the entire situation is your failure to see that your
constant personal attacking of others says far more about you than it does
about your intended victims.

I'm honored to be among those you consider "very much unlike" yourself. Fire
away, granny. I'm not really all that bothered by hysterical zealots. Appealing
to your reason has failed to dissuade you from your current crusade, (as I
suspected), and you can now proceed to show us all your arse and exercise your
acid vocabulary. That will certainly improve the content of the group, about
which you claim to be so impassioned.

PS:

Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 203 for group:rec.boats insubject:OT
author:Smith.


Short Wave Sportfishing December 9th 04 11:42 AM

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:53:47 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:13:41 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
...
On 08 Dec 2004 23:46:12 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Wayne.B

Good information, thanks. I can run down to FMB in about 45 mins from
here but had not realized there were big Tarpon offshore there.

There's big tarpon all along this coast.

Of all the species that I have in my log book, I don't have a tarpon.

I'm sure your list of "dont-haves" is a lot shorter than mine. ;-)


Ok, I'm not bragging here - just so that we understand each other.

And we'll keep this to sal****er game fish.

Billfish: Pacific/Atlantic Blue, black, white marlin - don't have a
striped or green. Atlantic/Pacific Sail, sword and a spearfish, but I
can't take credit for it because it didn't get tagged.


Tunas: All eight species.

Shark: Mako, blue, black tip, hammerhead, tiger.

Misc: Barracuda, wahoo, dolphin, snook, bonefish, permit, King
salmon, two species of grouper, striped bass

That's right off the top of my head - actually the most memorable fish
I've caught.


See! I told you your list of "never-caught" would be a lot shorter than
mine. The only fish in the tuna family that I've caught was a *big* little
tunny. Man they fight hard. He measured 37", and I suspect about
20-25lbs...but he fought like a 5 foot shark.

I've caught most of my prized catches this year: 5 1/2 foot blacktip shark
in January, 90-100 lb. Tarpon in April, several 20-30 lb. cobia in May, an
eight-foot nurse shark in June, and a 125lb (est.) striped marlin in August.
All but the marlin were caught within 5 miles of shore, and within 15 miles
of my home pass (you call them "inlets" on the East coast). The marlin came
out of the Pacific off of Los Cabos. Because of the heavy gear we used for
the Marlin, the tarpon fight seemed like a lot harder work-out.

I'm hoping to get a "smoker" king this year. I've caught several "snakes"
(skinny kings) the last few times out. I also hear the blackfin tuna are
out about 30-50 miles around the shrimp boats. I'm waiting for those things
to move to within 20-30 miles so I can target them.


Nothing like it huh? :)

Later,

Tom

UglyDan®©™ December 9th 04 12:10 PM


How long ago did this occur?
Would an "investigative report" from a local publication be of any use?
:-)
There are some very explicit laws in Washington State about extended
warranty claims. Among other options you can explore is taking your case
to the insurance commissioner. If the previous ownership didn't pay the
insurance premium for your claim, that puts them on the hook entirely.



Chuck,
Thanks for the offer but its just water under the bridge now. It
happened back in '98 or so after the original warranty expired. The
joker that they sold the dealership to only lasted a year before having
it taken back by the original owners.
I filed a complaint on deaf ears with both the AG office and Senn's
office, So I guess you won't be surprised if I say good riddance to both
of them :) From all I remember it happened to 40 or 50 other customers.
Next time your over at Sure marine, Would you please send Rick, Eric and
Steve my regards, and let them know "Boats" the wonder dog is still
alive and kickin,
Thanks, UD



http://community.webtv.net/capuglyda...inUglyDansJack


K. Smith December 9th 04 12:12 PM

Gould 0738 wrote:

OK Chuckles so let's just stop now hey??? You keep up your abuse of
anyone who calls you for what you are, your OT political stuff & your
spam & I'll keep up calling you for what you are & reviewing your
deceptive marketing spam, when & if it suits me.

Do you know how to set the killfile??? Just do that, I never change my
ID etc so you'll be safe from criticism.

You can continue in your "I'm not an OT political spammer who will even
stoop to race/skin colour trying the sell OT political BS, I'm really a
nice ex boat broker bloke" delusion & as for me???; well I'll be as
happy as a lamb (you do know what a lamb is don't your Chuck?? or did
you have all but those rare ones shot for being the wrong colour in the
suburbs:-))



K


Chuck after the elections it was hoped you, jps etc & you know who
might at least accept the outcome & cut it back you haven't; if anything
you've gotten worse.



Bullshirts. But don't let the facts screw up a good rant. JPS hasn't posted
here in days, maybe weeks. There are several active OT threads currently
running where I have participated very little, or not at all. I don't believe
there is a current OT thread that I started. (Unless the States Rights thing
from about ten days ago is still running).


It's me:-) & expect I'll continue as long as you continue OT political
stuff, so we have a deal yes??




No, we don't have a deal. You can make yourself look silly as hell, no problem
by me. I'll post as I want, when I want, and if you want to flame the heck out
of me for it I'll simply take all the more pleasure in peeing you off. If I
post on topic, or off, it certainly will not have anything to do with your
opinions of me.


I gave up just as I did before your last election when Gore lost:-)
this NG is ruined by a few OT posters, you & Krause being the main players.



Once again, your allegations will not stand up if you check the archives. You
just admitted you hadn't frequented the NG for a long time ("gave up") and yet
you claim to be expert on the quantity and authorship of OT threads?


Come on chuckles it was a paid advertisement!! you got the heater cheap
I take it in exchange for spamming us??? Nice one Chuckles.



You don't get it. There are what, 25, 30, maybe 35 active boaters (tops) on the
NG?
Another 20 or so who don't boat but hang out to lob manure wads at Krause or
others considered "treasonous liberals"? I've never tried to sell a darn thing
on rec.boats. Even if I wanted to, there isn't enough mass to make a market for
anything.


While in Google, run a search on Karen Smith and "spam". Go back many,


many,

years. Extremely revealing.


Gee me selling anything at all??? If there are so many you'll have no
trouble pasting at least what say 3 examples??? go for it; if you can
I'll put my hands up to that, but I doubt you will.



You misunderstand. When one runs Karen Smith and "spam", they discover that the
charge of "spamming" is your stock attack on nearly everybody who has ever
posted to rec.boats and who is associated in any way with the marine business.
Your crusade against Dave Brown, your attacks on Peggie Hall, etc etc etc are
all there for everybody to see. You have helped run off several worthy
contributors to rec.boats over the years with your often vicious, frequently
relentless attacks, usually because the people hold a different professional
opinion than your own. Then you presume to blame the demise of the NG on
others.



You really are up yourself chucky, chuckys in love with chucky. I don't
need your permission or acceptance of anything I say or don't say. You
are a political OT & spam poster, so as far as I'm concerned fair game
in any circumstances.



You're entitled to your opinion. You're also entitled to appear obsessed and
consumed by it. What other conclusion can one draw when you can't resist
throwing up unprovoked personal attacks?
I must be always on your mind. Pity for you, if so.




Get this the OT spammer now says he can set the rules for complaining
about his OT & spam??? Not likely, the best I can do is when I feel so
inclined lob a grenade your way & I do & I will.



Yes, I'm sure you will. You have done very little else here for a number of
years. Your targets change, but your behavior does not.




I've seen what happens to the huge number of people who have politely
asked you to stop it, you Chuck, that's you personally, set upon them.



How about a single example? Either one of the "huge" number who have "politely
asked me to stop" or that I have "set upon" as a result?


I wouldn't if I were you:-) now I won't ignore your spam because I
can't be bothered with your protests.



It occurs to me, Karen, that your "protests" would have no effect except to
increase my credibilty among anybody familiar with your modus operandi and
track record.

Welcome back to the group. Protest, flame, insult, stalk, lie, rant, and lob
all the poison ink you choose. You believe you're on a mission, so I'll simply
leave you to it.
The great humor of the entire situation is your failure to see that your
constant personal attacking of others says far more about you than it does
about your intended victims.

I'm honored to be among those you consider "very much unlike" yourself. Fire
away, granny. I'm not really all that bothered by hysterical zealots. Appealing
to your reason has failed to dissuade you from your current crusade, (as I
suspected), and you can now proceed to show us all your arse and exercise your
acid vocabulary. That will certainly improve the content of the group, about
which you claim to be so impassioned.

PS:

Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 203 for group:rec.boats insubject:OT
author:Smith.


MikeG December 9th 04 02:36 PM

In article .net,
says...

"MikeG" wrote in message
ews.com...

Ooooop's sorry, I thought the thread was about boats, Grady Whites and
Boston Whalers. Silly me.

--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods


Blame Chuck. His signature line was OT. You know, sort of like "heirloom
woods" is off-topic.


www.heirloom-woods.net





The only thing I really can't tell from your posts is if you were born
an asshole or worked very hard at becoming one.

--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net


Wayne.B December 9th 04 03:53 PM

On 09 Dec 2004 07:15:08 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Your crusade against Dave Brown, your attacks on Peggie Hall, etc etc etc are
all there for everybody to see.


====================================

That is unquestionably true unfortunately. I had the pleasure of
meeting Dave Brown in person once and he struck me as being a pretty
straight guy struggling to run a small marina business in a small, out
of the way place in the world that has about a 3 month season.


Don White December 9th 04 05:52 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message

ERr,,,what "she" writes...sorry.


Are you sure? I wouldn't bet the farm either way.



K. Smith December 9th 04 09:13 PM

Wayne.B wrote:
On 09 Dec 2004 07:15:08 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:


Your crusade against Dave Brown, your attacks on Peggie Hall, etc etc etc are
all there for everybody to see.



====================================

That is unquestionably true unfortunately.


I hardly think I had anything at all to do with Peggy leaving & hope
not but as for :

I had the pleasure of
meeting Dave Brown in person once and he struck me as being a pretty
straight guy


Yep he was smooth dealer could present well sales sales sales.

struggling to run a small marina business in a small, out
of the way place in the world that has about a 3 month season.


Yes & I guess that meant he got lots of extra "rebates" however he
failed to mention the facts in all the dealer markup threads over the
years, indeed when I repeatedly called him on it he just personally
attacked me to maintain the deception (don't your remember him saying
he'd just "love" for all you gullible dealer lackies to see his
"invoice" & show how little his markup was????, you were being had by
pros!!!)

Indeed it wasn't till the OMC dealers tried to sue the OMC bankruptcy
administrator to steal what little was left from the union retirees,
that the magnitude of the deception was fully revealed (30% on Ficht
sales!!!!!).

Needless to say when attacked I happily oblige & will again if & when
the opportunity presents, hopefully gaining as much pleasu-)

If you are giving your personal view on him so you should, I guess I
can say I disagree?? but as always I like to give relevant reasons.

Although I'm a bit chuffed if you say I was instrumental in his demise
from here, really??? gee given what I took from him & the other OMC
bludgers;......... what a bunch of wimps!!!:-)

However I probably should be a bit modest & tell you if you bothered to
check you would have seen they were here spamming & abusing right up
till about 3 weeks before OMC rolled into the table drain (was that
possibly the time dealers got prior knowledge the end was nigh???? but
continued to sell defunct engines to unsuspecting consumers??), then
your good bloke NG dealers just dumped all the people they'd been
telling to buy Ficht:-) &.... wait for it.......... on mass ran away!!!!!!

As I said at the time I know I wished a pox on all their houses &
thought I'd done pretty OK when the pine tree arrived; but gee what
happened next was scary even for me:-)

Their victims were here day after day leading to weeks asking for any
help or even the most basic of information but ALL your hero dealers
just ran & hid as spammer cowards always do when there's nothing left to
sell!!! sell!!!! sell!!!

What?? then about a year or so later??? Tried to come back as a Merc
dealer:-) now that was funny really really hilarious, because during the
Ficht debacle he'd told this NG they should buy Ficht not only because
there was nothing wrong with it:-) but because they'd been told of
warehouses full of blown Optimaxes:-) Would have made spamming Optimaxes
a bit difficult yes?? No sales to made from the spam so ...........

Thanks Wayne brought back some NG funny times, sad times for the
boaters taken in by them ........ & the union retirees taken in by the
inept union funds of course.

K




LaBomba182 December 10th 04 12:45 AM

Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: "NOYB"


This year, the trick was to get the tarpon up and revived
before a 15 foot hammerhead snatched him from you.


15 feet! Nice fish story.

But here's a better and true one about a real 15 footer. :-)

http://www.whopperstopper.net/readin...hammerhead.htm


"The shark was a great hammerhead.
****** It measured 15 feet, 6 inches and had a girth of 10 feet, 3 inches. It
weighed an incredible 1,475 pounds. The team from Miami also examined the catch
from head to tail. In the roof of the shark's mouth they counted 19 stingray
barbs, while in its bulging belly they found a 110-pound lemon shark. The lemon
shark was freshly eaten, sliced cleanly in half, and when added to the shark's
weight pushed the final tally to nearly 1,600 pounds-more than 600 pounds over
the current all-tackle world record."

Capt. Bill
























Short Wave Sportfishing December 10th 04 12:46 AM

On 10 Dec 2004 00:34:33 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Short Wave Sportfishing


On 08 Dec 2004 23:46:12 GMT,
(LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Wayne.B

Good information, thanks. I can run down to FMB in about 45 mins from
here but had not realized there were big Tarpon offshore there.

There's big tarpon all along this coast.


Of all the species that I have in my log book, I don't have a tarpon.


Come on down this summer. We can correct that. :-)


As it happens, I have some free time this summer.

I might take you up on that.

Later,

Tom


NOYB December 10th 04 02:47 AM


"MikeG" wrote in message
ews.com...
In article .net,
says...

"MikeG" wrote in message
ews.com...

Ooooop's sorry, I thought the thread was about boats, Grady Whites and
Boston Whalers. Silly me.

--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods


Blame Chuck. His signature line was OT. You know, sort of like
"heirloom
woods" is off-topic.


www.heirloom-woods.net





The only thing I really can't tell from your posts is if you were born
an asshole or worked very hard at becoming one.


Stick around, Glennon...you'll see that being an asshole requires very
little work at all for me.





NOYB December 10th 04 02:57 AM


"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: "NOYB"


This year, the trick was to get the tarpon up and revived
before a 15 foot hammerhead snatched him from you.


15 feet! Nice fish story.


Not a fish story. The shark is known locally by the name "Old Hitler"...but
most people consider him to be around 18 feet...not 15 feet.

http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=272047

This isn't some internet goofball bull****ting you. Magic Hook (aka--Capt.
Rick Featherstone) is one of the most respected guides in Southwest Florida.
He's been on George Poveromo's ESPN2 show, and has lectured at Poveromo's
Salt Water Series Seminars. He's also co-authored articles in several top
fishing magazines.



NOYB December 10th 04 03:00 AM


"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Short Wave Sportfishing


On 08 Dec 2004 23:46:12 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Wayne.B

Good information, thanks. I can run down to FMB in about 45 mins from
here but had not realized there were big Tarpon offshore there.

There's big tarpon all along this coast.


Of all the species that I have in my log book, I don't have a tarpon.

Later,

Tom


Come on down this summer. We can correct that. :-)


Absolutely. Contact Capt. Rick Featherstone (aka--Magic Hook charters). If
you're down here in late April or anytime in May, then catching a big Tarpon
is near 100% with Capt. Rick.




NOYB December 10th 04 03:03 AM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 10 Dec 2004 00:34:33 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Short Wave Sportfishing


On 08 Dec 2004 23:46:12 GMT,
(LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Wayne.B

Good information, thanks. I can run down to FMB in about 45 mins from
here but had not realized there were big Tarpon offshore there.

There's big tarpon all along this coast.

Of all the species that I have in my log book, I don't have a tarpon.


Come on down this summer. We can correct that. :-)


As it happens, I have some free time this summer.

I might take you up on that.

Later,

Tom


Tom,
You're welcome to contact me if you're heading down this way. I can't
guarantee a tarpon, but I'll at least put you in the ballgame. If you want
a sure thing, however, then get a guide. I know a great one if you're
interested:

http://www.magichook.com


I'd be willing to split the charter with you if you're interested.






NOYB December 10th 04 03:10 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:1102646954.5bb97e4c96b01e7f01bce3dcb70f7e83@t eranews...
NOYB wrote:
"MikeG" wrote in message
ews.com...

In article .net,
says...

"MikeG" wrote in message
iganews.com...


Ooooop's sorry, I thought the thread was about boats, Grady Whites and
Boston Whalers. Silly me.

--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods

Blame Chuck. His signature line was OT. You know, sort of like
"heirloom
woods" is off-topic.



www.heirloom-woods.net




The only thing I really can't tell from your posts is if you were born
an asshole or worked very hard at becoming one.



Stick around, Glennon...you'll see that being an asshole requires very
little work at all for me.






Hmmmm. So, when I referred to you as a xenophobic asshole, and you raised
a fuss...you were disputing the xenophobic part?


I've never been an asshole to you. And I already told you that I'm a
xenophobe.




NOYB December 10th 04 03:18 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:1102648167.40dab248945f378db9754c41d5a772d2@t eranews...
NOYB wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message ...

On 10 Dec 2004 00:34:33 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:


Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Short Wave Sportfishing

On 08 Dec 2004 23:46:12 GMT,
(LaBomba182) wrote:


Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Wayne.B

Good information, thanks. I can run down to FMB in about 45 mins
from
here but had not realized there were big Tarpon offshore there.

There's big tarpon all along this coast.

Of all the species that I have in my log book, I don't have a tarpon.

Come on down this summer. We can correct that. :-)

As it happens, I have some free time this summer.

I might take you up on that.

Later,

Tom



Tom,
You're welcome to contact me if you're heading down this way. I can't
guarantee a tarpon, but I'll at least put you in the ballgame. If you
want a sure thing, however, then get a guide. I know a great one if
you're interested:

http://www.magichook.com


I'd be willing to split the charter with you if you're interested.


For $35, you can rent a skiff and an outboard from a little bait shop just
north of the St. Augustine bridge, chug two miles to the little airport
basin and in late June through August, catch tarpon nearly as long as your
skiff. At least you could when I lived there. You could also reliably
catch them near shore between Matanzas Inlet and St. Augustine Inlet. In
the airport inlet, the tarpon would romp and roll for hours. Most of us
left them alone...they were too beautiful to harass.


Puh-leeeze. They're fish. Use circle hooks and heavy gear so as not to
tire them too much, and they'll be fine. I've been in the midst of 20
boats chasing dozens of rolling tarpon, and then watched all 20 boats go
home without landing a single fish. Just because you saw them doesn't mean
you could have caught them them.





NOYB December 10th 04 03:27 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On 10 Dec 2004 00:34:33 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:



Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Short Wave Sportfishing

On 08 Dec 2004 23:46:12 GMT,
(LaBomba182) wrote:



Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Wayne.B

Good information, thanks. I can run down to FMB in about 45 mins
from
here but had not realized there were big Tarpon offshore there.

There's big tarpon all along this coast.

Of all the species that I have in my log book, I don't have a tarpon.

Come on down this summer. We can correct that. :-)

As it happens, I have some free time this summer.

I might take you up on that.

Later,

Tom


Tom,
You're welcome to contact me if you're heading down this way. I can't
guarantee a tarpon, but I'll at least put you in the ballgame. If you
want a sure thing, however, then get a guide. I know a great one if
you're interested:

http://www.magichook.com


I'd be willing to split the charter with you if you're interested.


For $35, you can rent a skiff and an outboard from a little bait shop
just north of the St. Augustine bridge, chug two miles to the little
airport basin and in late June through August, catch tarpon nearly as
long as your skiff. At least you could when I lived there. You could also
reliably catch them near shore between Matanzas Inlet and St. Augustine
Inlet. In the airport inlet, the tarpon would romp and roll for hours.
Most of us left them alone...they were too beautiful to harass.



Puh-leeeze. They're fish. Use circle hooks and heavy gear so as not to
tire them too much, and they'll be fine. I've been in the midst of 20
boats chasing dozens of rolling tarpon, and then watched all 20 boats go
home without landing a single fish. Just because you saw them doesn't
mean you could have caught them them.




Oh, I've caught tarpon...but not in that particular "lagoon" I mentioned.
I didn't fish there...but I did use my calusa in it to catch shrimp and
pogies for bait.


I've never been there, but there's a place in the Keys called Robbie's where
the tarpon literally eat out of your hand right at the dock. Fishing there
would be a *huge* no-no.




NOYB December 10th 04 03:47 AM


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:36:16 -0500, MikeG
wrote:

In article .net,
says...

"MikeG" wrote in message
ews.com...

Ooooop's sorry, I thought the thread was about boats, Grady Whites and
Boston Whalers. Silly me.

--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods

Blame Chuck. His signature line was OT. You know, sort of like
"heirloom
woods" is off-topic.


www.heirloom-woods.net





The only thing I really can't tell from your posts is if you were born
an asshole or worked very hard at becoming one.


Actually, he is just another whiney DDS like the dweeb that started
this thread.....


Gene still holds a grudge against me for proving him stupid.




Wayne.B December 10th 04 05:01 AM

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 22:03:32 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:

I'd be willing to split the charter with you if you're interested.



=====================================

I'd be interested in doing that some time. Drop me a note and we can
work out the details.


K. Smith December 10th 04 05:29 AM

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 22:47:31 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:



Gene still holds a grudge against me for proving him stupid.



Actually, I proved you perpetually Off Topic..... if that makes me
stupid. Fine. Not a problem... I'm happily stupid.

You can be returned to the bit-bucket, with a click of the mouse, as
easily as that idiot, K that stands on her head and hates liberals,
dealers, manufacturers, and unions, but thinks businesses should
perpetually and unconditionally underwrite purchases of all used
items....

I thought a year or so was enough to give you kiddies room to grow up,
perhaps I was wrong.....



No no you were definitely wrong about me Gene, but hey you must be used
to that you're wrong here just about all the time:-), whatever please
immediately put me back in the bucket, I don't want you any more than
you want me. Great done deal & thanks, don't go being a Krause now;
remember we're done:-)

I don't like being verballed by the likes of you either, I've made it
clear about 4 times in this thread alone that I'm happy for the dealer
not to warrant the product if indeed the dealer has no responsibility
(as seems so) but I still defend the thread starters right to complain
when he got dumped for complaining.

Just my opinion or course but should be more of it I say; then they'd
learn to treat people properly. Well OK OK:-) some might; most won't:-)

Anyway bye Gene you take care & remember not to go out without your
head protection on. I also suspect you better give it more than just
another year before you try me again, what??? say at least 10 yrs;

Save please don't hesitate if you need my open unbiased opinion to help
you "if" your way too low freeboard transom with poorly designed
outboard well inclusion (what??? you saved a few bucks on short shaft
engines??? surely not???) sinks "your" GW:-)

Oops my mistake I do sincerely apologise, I should have said as it
quietly fills up by the time you notice it will definitely roll over, so
assuming your dictionary is still dry you can check it & tell the
rescuers it's a "capsized" GW; is that OK now???

I'll miss you but hey I admit I do deserve to be spared your thoughts
on my contributions, how sad ...........


K

MikeG December 10th 04 05:10 PM

In article , says...
you'll see that being an asshole requires very
little work at all for me.



That is already quite evident. Obviously, being an ignorant asshole is
what you consider your life's greatest achievement.

--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net


NOYB December 10th 04 08:49 PM


"MikeG" wrote in message
ws.com...
In article , says...
you'll see that being an asshole requires very
little work at all for me.



That is already quite evident. Obviously, being an ignorant asshole is
what you consider your life's greatest achievement.


I'll only claim the asshole title. But I'm a well-informed asshole.



Short Wave Sportfishing December 10th 04 10:02 PM

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:49:12 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


"MikeG" wrote in message
ews.com...
In article , says...
you'll see that being an asshole requires very
little work at all for me.


That is already quite evident. Obviously, being an ignorant asshole is
what you consider your life's greatest achievement.


I'll only claim the asshole title. But I'm a well-informed asshole.


You know what they say - once an...

er...

Never mind.

Later,

Tom

LaBomba182 December 10th 04 10:35 PM

Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: "NOYB"


I've never been there, but there's a place in the Keys called Robbie's where
the tarpon literally eat out of your hand right at the dock. Fishing there
would be a *huge* no-no.



Same in Key West. It was fun to hook one up on heavy line with the drag locked
down and watch them jump 10 feet in front of you a couple of times then unhook
them and let them swim away very green.

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 December 10th 04 10:37 PM

Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: Short Wave Sportfishing


Come on down this summer. We can correct that. :-)


As it happens, I have some free time this summer.

I might take you up on that.


Just let me know. I can put you in touch with one of a number of tarpon guides.
For pass fishing, beach fishing, fly, live bait and or jig fishing.

Capt. Bill

MikeG December 10th 04 11:36 PM

In article , says...

"MikeG" wrote in message
ws.com...
In article ,
says...
you'll see that being an asshole requires very
little work at all for me.



That is already quite evident. Obviously, being an ignorant asshole is
what you consider your life's greatest achievement.


I'll only claim the asshole title. But I'm a well-informed asshole.



There is a difference between informed and ignorant. Unfortunately you
don't seem to recognize it.

It's also unfortunate that any knowledge on the subject of boats you may
have is buried and far over shadowed by your ignorance.

So sad. My sympathies too those who may have only you as an adult role
model.
--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net


NOYB December 11th 04 06:10 PM


"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...

"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: "NOYB"

This year, the trick was to get the tarpon up and revived
before a 15 foot hammerhead snatched him from you.

15 feet! Nice fish story.


Not a fish story. The shark is known locally by the name "Old
Hitler"...but
most people consider him to be around 18 feet...not 15 feet.


LOL, he's been know as "Old Hitler" for about 50 + years now.



If there really was just one "Old Hitler", that would not only make it
perhaps
the biggest hammerhead in the world but for sure the oldest. LOL





The joke I used to tell at Miller's was, you could tell which Hammerhead
was
the real "Hitler" by the O2 bottle he was carrying with him along with all
the
seeing eye Remoras.

http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=272047

This isn't some internet goofball bull****ting you.


The story I posted is not BS.

Magic Hook (aka--Capt.
Rick Featherstone) is one of the most respected guides in Southwest
Florida.
He's been on George Poveromo's ESPN2 show, and has lectured at Poveromo's
Salt Water Series Seminars. He's also co-authored articles in several top
fishing magazines.


Yeah, you're right, a fishing guide would never exaggerate a fish story.
LOL

"18' long, 5 or 6' wide hammer, body around the gills was about 4' thick.
Dorsal was 4'. I have no clue on weight but a wild guess is 800"

800lb?
Gee, he's only off by, oh, 800-1000lb or so. If the fish really was 18
feet
long that is.



Agreed.


Or, was the shark 15 feet or less and he was right on? :-)


But you disputed the 15'-shark-snatching-tarpon claim that I posted?


For what it's worth the worlds record Great Hammerhead was caught right
here in
Sarasota and it ONLY weighed 991lb.






You post seemed to make it out like 15 foot Hammerheads were an everyday
occurrence around here. But the fact is, sadly, they aren't.


I've personally seen a 12-footer cruising a wreck about 25 miles off of
Marco...and I've heard of several in the 12+ foot range snatching tarpon
from anglers off of FMB, and in Boca Grande Pass.




Paul Schilter December 11th 04 07:58 PM

NOYB,
According to this Maryland web site, the record Hammerhead catch was 191
lbs for a scalloped 8/20/93, and 165 lbs for a smooth. They were taken by
Ocean City. Didn't say what the length was.
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...rt/record.html I know one
time when fishing from a party boat off of Tarpon Springs a hammerhead
surfaced that was much heavier than 99 lbs. Sure looked all of 15 feet. Near
everybody took a step back from the rail. :-)
Paul

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...

"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
Subject: Boston Whaler or Grady White?
From: "NOYB"

This year, the trick was to get the tarpon up and revived
before a 15 foot hammerhead snatched him from you.

15 feet! Nice fish story.

Not a fish story. The shark is known locally by the name "Old
Hitler"...but
most people consider him to be around 18 feet...not 15 feet.


LOL, he's been know as "Old Hitler" for about 50 + years now.



If there really was just one "Old Hitler", that would not only make it
perhaps
the biggest hammerhead in the world but for sure the oldest. LOL





The joke I used to tell at Miller's was, you could tell which Hammerhead
was
the real "Hitler" by the O2 bottle he was carrying with him along with
all the
seeing eye Remoras.

http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=272047

This isn't some internet goofball bull****ting you.


The story I posted is not BS.

Magic Hook (aka--Capt.
Rick Featherstone) is one of the most respected guides in Southwest
Florida.
He's been on George Poveromo's ESPN2 show, and has lectured at Poveromo's
Salt Water Series Seminars. He's also co-authored articles in several
top
fishing magazines.


Yeah, you're right, a fishing guide would never exaggerate a fish story.
LOL

"18' long, 5 or 6' wide hammer, body around the gills was about 4' thick.
Dorsal was 4'. I have no clue on weight but a wild guess is 800"

800lb?
Gee, he's only off by, oh, 800-1000lb or so. If the fish really was 18
feet
long that is.



Agreed.


Or, was the shark 15 feet or less and he was right on? :-)


But you disputed the 15'-shark-snatching-tarpon claim that I posted?


For what it's worth the worlds record Great Hammerhead was caught right
here in
Sarasota and it ONLY weighed 991lb.






You post seemed to make it out like 15 foot Hammerheads were an everyday
occurrence around here. But the fact is, sadly, they aren't.


I've personally seen a 12-footer cruising a wreck about 25 miles off of
Marco...and I've heard of several in the 12+ foot range snatching tarpon
from anglers off of FMB, and in Boca Grande Pass.






NOYB December 11th 04 11:46 PM


"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast dot net wrote in message
...
NOYB,
According to this Maryland web site, the record Hammerhead catch was
191 lbs for a scalloped 8/20/93, and 165 lbs for a smooth. They were taken
by Ocean City. Didn't say what the length was.
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...rt/record.html I know one
time when fishing from a party boat off of Tarpon Springs a hammerhead
surfaced that was much heavier than 99 lbs. Sure looked all of 15 feet.
Near everybody took a step back from the rail. :-)
Paul


Maryland has baby hammerheads. The IGFA record, as Capt. Bill said, is 991
lbs...caught by Allen Ogle, Sarasota, FL, May 30, 1982.

http://www.schoolofflyfishing.com/re...altrecords.htm





Paul Schilter December 12th 04 12:23 AM

Sorry, must have misread, I thought it said 99 lbs. Yes, quite a difference.
Paul

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast dot net wrote in message
...
NOYB,
According to this Maryland web site, the record Hammerhead catch was
191 lbs for a scalloped 8/20/93, and 165 lbs for a smooth. They were
taken by Ocean City. Didn't say what the length was.
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...rt/record.html I know one
time when fishing from a party boat off of Tarpon Springs a hammerhead
surfaced that was much heavier than 99 lbs. Sure looked all of 15 feet.
Near everybody took a step back from the rail. :-)
Paul


Maryland has baby hammerheads. The IGFA record, as Capt. Bill said, is
991 lbs...caught by Allen Ogle, Sarasota, FL, May 30, 1982.

http://www.schoolofflyfishing.com/re...altrecords.htm







NOYB December 13th 04 07:49 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Ooooop's sorry, I thought the thread was about boats, Grady Whites and
Boston Whalers. Silly me.


It is. It was diverted to a sidebar by an OT remark from NOYB and my
response
to him. He should have started an OT thread, not cluttered this one.


Or you could have responded in an OT thread...




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