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"Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Beware the slippery slope. How large a step is it from terminating the life of people who are "unable to make the decision to end their own life", to terminating people "who are not capable of making the *right* decision, and want to go on living"? Wow! Chuck and I agree. Was done lots years ago. Baby born without a brain, the doctors put the baby to the side and let them die. Better check your story there Bill. Babies born without a brain aren't alive. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Beware the slippery slope. How large a step is it from terminating the life of people who are "unable to make the decision to end their own life", to terminating people "who are not capable of making the *right* decision, and want to go on living"? Wow! Chuck and I agree. Was done lots years ago. Baby born without a brain, the doctors put the baby to the side and let them die. Better check your story there Bill. Babies born without a brain aren't alive. It's part of Bill's autobiography. "It was a dark and stormy night, and I was born without a brain," writes Bill. |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Was done lots years ago. Baby born without a brain, the doctors put the baby to the side and let them die. Some nurse complained, and now $10,000,000 and the baby dies in a month. Same with other unsurvivable babies. My brainy daughter's first master's degree was in medical ethics. Fascinating field that often deals with scenarios much like you describe. More major hospitals are adding medical ethicists to saff. There's a difference between a baby born without a brain that has *zero* potential for survival, and deciding to off poor sick granny because the creditors are hounding and the inheritance would solve a lot of problems. True, but the ethics now are save that vegetable baby no matter what. Other wise go to jail. But it is OK to kill it while it is still half in the mother. |
"NOYB" wrote in message .net... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Beware the slippery slope. How large a step is it from terminating the life of people who are "unable to make the decision to end their own life", to terminating people "who are not capable of making the *right* decision, and want to go on living"? Wow! Chuck and I agree. Was done lots years ago. Baby born without a brain, the doctors put the baby to the side and let them die. Better check your story there Bill. Babies born without a brain aren't alive. They are born with very little of the brain, and it is open to the world. Check your story. Probably why you are a dentist. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Beware the slippery slope. How large a step is it from terminating the life of people who are "unable to make the decision to end their own life", to terminating people "who are not capable of making the *right* decision, and want to go on living"? Wow! Chuck and I agree. Was done lots years ago. Baby born without a brain, the doctors put the baby to the side and let them die. Better check your story there Bill. Babies born without a brain aren't alive. It's part of Bill's autobiography. "It was a dark and stormy night, and I was born without a brain," writes Bill. You snipped out the other part. "As Harry stated to his shrink It was a dark and stormy night, and I was born without a brain, and I now only live vicariously through the internet." |
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message .net... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Beware the slippery slope. How large a step is it from terminating the life of people who are "unable to make the decision to end their own life", to terminating people "who are not capable of making the *right* decision, and want to go on living"? Wow! Chuck and I agree. Was done lots years ago. Baby born without a brain, the doctors put the baby to the side and let them die. Better check your story there Bill. Babies born without a brain aren't alive. They are born with very little of the brain, and it is open to the world. Now it's "born with very little brain"? Before it was "born *without* a brain". The term for the condition you are now referring to is anencephaly. Yes, an anencephalic baby can be alive for a short while. No, a baby "born without a brain" cannot live. As for my being a dentist... We had two semesters studying cranial-facial development. I can tell you all you need to know about neural tube defects and cranial-facial abnormalities. Riley's Childrens' Hospital in Indianapolis (which is adjacent to the dental school), has one of the premier cranio-facial reconstructive teams in the World. One of the members of the team, Dr. RR Hathaway, was my instructor for those two semesters. He's been published plenty of times in the Journal of Craniofacial Surgery. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Calif Bill" wrote in message rthlink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Beware the slippery slope. How large a step is it from terminating the life of people who are "unable to make the decision to end their own life", to terminating people "who are not capable of making the *right* decision, and want to go on living"? Wow! Chuck and I agree. Was done lots years ago. Baby born without a brain, the doctors put the baby to the side and let them die. Better check your story there Bill. Babies born without a brain aren't alive. They are born with very little of the brain, and it is open to the world. Now it's "born with very little brain"? Before it was "born *without* a brain". The term for the condition you are now referring to is anencephaly. Yes, an anencephalic baby can be alive for a short while. No, a baby "born without a brain" cannot live. As for my being a dentist... We had two semesters studying cranial-facial development. I can tell you all you need to know about neural tube defects and cranial-facial abnormalities. Riley's Childrens' Hospital in Indianapolis (which is adjacent to the dental school), has one of the premier cranio-facial reconstructive teams in the World. One of the members of the team, Dr. RR Hathaway, was my instructor for those two semesters. He's been published plenty of times in the Journal of Craniofacial Surgery. Okay...you're the expert in how faces should look. So...explain your looks... Speaking of explaining looks... I had a lady come in today after 5 months of wearing a denture that I made her. She complained that people have recently noticed that the teeth aren't straight (even though for 5 months she had been perfectly happy with them). She has a drooping right upper lip, so when she's not smiling, more of the teeth are showing on the left than on the right. When she smiles, her lip is straight, and consequently the teeth look straight. She told me that all of her family members were commenting over Thanksgiving that her new denture wasn't straight. That, of course, told me that she must not smile a lot when her family is around. But how do you explain that to a patient? |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message rthlink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net... "Calif Bill" wrote in message . earthlink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Beware the slippery slope. How large a step is it from terminating the life of people who are "unable to make the decision to end their own life", to terminating people "who are not capable of making the *right* decision, and want to go on living"? Wow! Chuck and I agree. Was done lots years ago. Baby born without a brain, the doctors put the baby to the side and let them die. Better check your story there Bill. Babies born without a brain aren't alive. They are born with very little of the brain, and it is open to the world. Now it's "born with very little brain"? Before it was "born *without* a brain". The term for the condition you are now referring to is anencephaly. Yes, an anencephalic baby can be alive for a short while. No, a baby "born without a brain" cannot live. As for my being a dentist... We had two semesters studying cranial-facial development. I can tell you all you need to know about neural tube defects and cranial-facial abnormalities. Riley's Childrens' Hospital in Indianapolis (which is adjacent to the dental school), has one of the premier cranio-facial reconstructive teams in the World. One of the members of the team, Dr. RR Hathaway, was my instructor for those two semesters. He's been published plenty of times in the Journal of Craniofacial Surgery. Okay...you're the expert in how faces should look. So...explain your looks... Speaking of explaining looks... I had a lady come in today after 5 months of wearing a denture that I made her. She complained that people have recently noticed that the teeth aren't straight (even though for 5 months she had been perfectly happy with them). She has a drooping right upper lip, so when she's not smiling, more of the teeth are showing on the left than on the right. When she smiles, her lip is straight, and consequently the teeth look straight. She told me that all of her family members were commenting over Thanksgiving that her new denture wasn't straight. That, of course, told me that she must not smile a lot when her family is around. But how do you explain that to a patient? With a lot of tact and patience...which you don't have? HAve your wife do it. She has to have lots of both... I just suggested to my patient that she spend more time hanging around people who make her smile. As for my wife... She *used to* have patience, but now she has three boys under the age of 5 running around the house. |
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:14:54 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
~~ snippage ~~ Speaking of explaining looks... I had a lady come in today after 5 months of wearing a denture that I made her. She complained that people have recently noticed that the teeth aren't straight (even though for 5 months she had been perfectly happy with them). She has a drooping right upper lip, so when she's not smiling, more of the teeth are showing on the left than on the right. When she smiles, her lip is straight, and consequently the teeth look straight. She told me that all of her family members were commenting over Thanksgiving that her new denture wasn't straight. That, of course, told me that she must not smile a lot when her family is around. But how do you explain that to a patient? I've worn full dentures since '68 as the result of an incompetent Army triage doctor and a equally incompetent Navy Surgeon and over the years, have replaced them three times. This current time will be the fourth - about once every ten years. To date, as a result of the incompetence of the original surgery, I have yet to obtain a proper set of dentures. Either the teeth are too small or the teeth are too large or the damn things don't fit right a month after the final fit - they are a total pain in the...er....mouth. Fortunately this time I now have a very understanding dentist who is striving to get it right - we've been working on this new set for two months and we're at the final impression/teeth setting stage. The teeth are a proper size for my face, the damn things seem to fit and with a few final tweaks, finally - a good pair of dentures. Gonna cost me a bundle, but this time it's worth it. I don't envy dentists by the way - that's got to be a tough job in the best of circumstances. Later, Tom |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... With a lot of tact and patience...which you don't have? HAve your wife do it. She has to have lots of both... Hee hee... I'm going to start collecting lines for my Don Rickles immitations.. |
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