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NOYB November 29th 04 12:07 AM


"Jim Carter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
...
I'm sure his feelings will be hurt.


Well, the people of Canada are a lot more polite that those in Columbia
that wanted to assassinate the SOB.


The Marxists?


Here, if we dislike a person, we just ignore them.


So you empathize with Marxist rebels?



JohnH November 29th 04 12:57 AM

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:24:10 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
...
I'm sure his feelings will be hurt.


Well, the people of Canada are a lot more polite that those in Columbia
that wanted to assassinate the SOB.


The Marxists?


Here, if we dislike a person, we just ignore them.


So you empathize with Marxist rebels?



Wasn't that just more Fox News bullship?

"Evidence of assassination plan against Bush in Columbia not found."
http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews...9_20041127.htm

You know - like WMD.

Evidence of assassination plan against Bush in Columbia not found

Saturday, November 27, 2004

BY ANDREW SELSKY
ASSOCIATED PRESS

BOGOTA, Colombia -- Colombia's main rebel group asked followers to mount
an assassination attempt against President George W. Bush during his
visit to Colombia last week, Defense Minister Jorge Uribe said. There
was no evidence Saturday that rebels even tried to organize such an attack.

Uribe told reporters late Friday that informants said the Revolutionary
Armed Forces of Colombia, known as the FARC, told followers to attack
Bush during his four-hour visit in the seaside city of Cartagena last
Monday, where he met with Colombian President Alvaro Uribe.

The defense minister, who is no relation to the president, said security
forces were on full alert during the visit. About 15,000 Colombian
troops and police, along with U.S. troops and Secret Service agents
provided security. There was no indication Bush's life was ever in danger.

Uribe did not say where the informants had heard about the attack.

The Secret Service did not comment on security details, as is its policy.

"We have full confidence in the fine work of the Secret Service and
their work with security officials on the ground when the President
travels," White House spokesman Jim Morrell said Saturday.

The FARC has declared U.S. troops in Colombia military targets. The
troops are training local forces and providing logistics and planning
assistance for military operations against the rebels.

However, the rebels never publicly declared Bush a target during his
first-ever visit as president to Colombia. Bush visited Colombia after
attending a summit in Chile.



Incidentally, the FARC, while it has Communist roots, is hardly
"Marxist" today, and hasn't been for years. What it is is a fairly well
organized group of criminals. Don't you get books and newspapers down
there in Stupidville?


Damn, no one 'publicly declared' 9/11 either. I suppose it really
didn't happen.

Go play with yourself, Harry. You'll be more credible.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Jim Carter November 29th 04 01:39 AM


"NOYB" wrote in message
...
The Marxists?


No, not the Marxists, the "Freedom Fighters" is what they are called now.
You know, the people of a country that are fighting for their freedom.
Fighting to live free in a country that is being over run by a foreign
power.

Jim Carter
Bayfield



NOYB November 29th 04 03:00 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
...
I'm sure his feelings will be hurt.


Well, the people of Canada are a lot more polite that those in Columbia
that wanted to assassinate the SOB.


The Marxists?


Here, if we dislike a person, we just ignore them.


So you empathize with Marxist rebels?



Wasn't that just more Fox News bullship?

"Evidence of assassination plan against Bush in Columbia not found."
http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews...9_20041127.htm

You know - like WMD.

Evidence of assassination plan against Bush in Columbia not found

Saturday, November 27, 2004

BY ANDREW SELSKY
ASSOCIATED PRESS



Colombia reveals Bush assassination plot. 28/11/2004. ABC News Online

[This is the print version of story
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems.../s1253133.htm]


Last Update: Sunday, November 28, 2004. 8:35am (AEDT)
Colombia reveals Bush assassination plot
A top Colombian official says US President George W Bush was targeted for
assassination by Colombia's biggest Marxist rebel group this week when he
visited the Caribbean port city of Cartagena.

Colombian Defence Secretary, Jorge Alberto Uribe, says informants and
various sources had indicated "that various members of the FARC had been
instructed by their leaders to make an attempt against President Bush".

He would not reveal details of the threat.

The US Secret Service, which protects the President, says it "does not
comment or release information regarding our protective intelligence and
protective methods".

"We do not discuss any alleged threats to our protectees," said Secret
Service spokesman Jonathan Cherry.

White House spokesman Jim Morrell also declined to comment on the plot.

"We have full confidence in the fine work of the Secret Service and their
work with the security officials on the ground when the President travels,"
he said.

The 17,000-strong Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), fighting a
40 year guerrilla war against the state, has long accused the United States
of backing business interests in the Andean country while ignoring the 60
per cent of the population that lives in poverty.

There was heavy security in Cartagena when Mr Bush visited the city on
Monday on his way home from the APEC forum in Chile.

Military helicopters packed with armed soldiers flew over President Bush's
motorcade while naval vessels kept watch offshore.

Many shops were shuttered.

The FARC has made many attempts against the life of President Alvaro Uribe,
one of few conservative South American presidents with strong ties to
Washington.

Mr Uribe, whose father was killed resisting kidnap by the FARC in the 1980s,
narrowly survived a car bomb attack by the FARC during his 2002 presidential
campaign.

The last US president to visit Colombia was Bill Clinton, whose trip to
Cartagena was marked by the seizure of bomb-making materials from a house
six blocks from a building he was visiting.

Mr Bush used his four-hour trip to solidify his alliance with Mr Uribe, whom
he considers an ally in the effort to curtail the illegal drug trade and
fight terrorism.

Colombia produces about 90 per cent of the cocaine consumed in the United
States and 50 per cent of the heroin.

- Reuters





NOYB November 29th 04 03:02 AM


"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
...
The Marxists?


No, not the Marxists, the "Freedom Fighters" is what they are called now.
You know, the people of a country that are fighting for their freedom.
Fighting to live free in a country that is being over run by a foreign
power.


Fine. So they're Freedom Fighters who just happen to be Marxists. Of
course, in a Marxist society, nobody is free...so your theory falls apart.






Jim Carter November 29th 04 11:58 AM


"NOYB" wrote in message
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Fine. So they're Freedom Fighters who just happen to be Marxists. Of
course, in a Marxist society, nobody is free...so your theory falls apart.


The only ones to call the Freedom Fighters of Columbia "Marxists" is the CIA
and you. The rest of the world calls them "Democrats".

Jim Carter
Bayfield



JohnH November 29th 04 09:05 PM

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:39:19 -0500, "Jim Carter"
wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
...
The Marxists?


No, not the Marxists, the "Freedom Fighters" is what they are called now.
You know, the people of a country that are fighting for their freedom.
Fighting to live free in a country that is being over run by a foreign
power.

Jim Carter
Bayfield


The people of a country that are killing the people of their country
are fighting for the freedom of the people of the country?

Right!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Jim Carter November 29th 04 09:23 PM


"JohnH" wrote in message
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The people of a country that are killing the people of their country
are fighting for the freedom of the people of the country?
Right!
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


No John, they are trying to rid the country of people put in there by the
CIA. It is those people that the Freedom Fighters are killing. Not the
citizens of Columbia. The Colombian people are being murdered by Soldiers
of Fortune, hired by CIA, and paid for by people like you.

Jim Carter
Bayfield



NOYB November 29th 04 10:50 PM


"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
...
Fine. So they're Freedom Fighters who just happen to be Marxists. Of
course, in a Marxist society, nobody is free...so your theory falls
apart.


The only ones to call the Freedom Fighters of Columbia "Marxists" is the
CIA
and you. The rest of the world calls them "Democrats".


I can see that. They grew in prominence through treacherous acts (namely
kidnapping for ransom, thievery, murder, and cocaine production). The term
"Democrat" certainly does fit them.

Nevertheless, you're probably right. Today, they are driven by money rather
than politics...so the term Marxist (although that's what they were in the
beginning) probably doesn't suit them. But they're certainly terrorists. I
*would* call them "Democratic terrorists", but then people would confuse
them with the ACLU and the Rainbow/PUSH coalition.




Lloyd Sumpter November 30th 04 01:38 AM

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:05:13 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:39:19 -0500, "Jim Carter"
wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
...
The Marxists?


No, not the Marxists, the "Freedom Fighters" is what they are called now.
You know, the people of a country that are fighting for their freedom.
Fighting to live free in a country that is being over run by a foreign
power.

Jim Carter
Bayfield


The people of a country that are killing the people of their country
are fighting for the freedom of the people of the country?

Right!


Yeah...like the American Civil War, or your battle for Independance...

Lloyd Sumpter
Canadian.




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