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Gould 0738 November 24th 04 11:12 PM

Wow! Up here the police put out deer & moose silhouettes trying to entice
poachers to take a shot. They get takers each year.


Easily defended, unless you have a specific season for silhouettes. :-)

Short Wave Sportfishing November 24th 04 11:14 PM

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:06:48 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
I always said give the deer a gun to shoot back. Obvious where the odds
would lie.


Al Cummmings, who wrote a bunch of cruising guidebooks years ago, once

worked
as a radio DJ in Seattle.

One year, on the opening day of deer season, he put on a hollowed out

trophy
head and stood next to one of our busy arterials with a rifle, pretending

to
take aim at passing motorists. In the 60's this was funny. Somebody would

gun
him down or call the Homeland Security forces on him these days.


Wow! Up here the police put out deer & moose silhouettes trying to entice
poachers to take a shot. They get takers each year.


Our DEP has access to three choppers with some very sophisticated IR
and low light hardware. They set up motion sensors in restricted
areas (like my woods) to catch poachers. Once the sensors trigger,
it's relayed by satellite to Hartford and they dispatch a chopper.

Caught thirty last year (two in my woods).

Later,

Tom


Eisboch November 24th 04 11:15 PM


Gould 0738 wrote in message
...
I always said give the deer a gun to shoot back. Obvious where the odds
would lie.


Al Cummmings, who wrote a bunch of cruising guidebooks years ago, once

worked
as a radio DJ in Seattle.

One year, on the opening day of deer season, he put on a hollowed out

trophy
head and stood next to one of our busy arterials with a rifle, pretending

to
take aim at passing motorists. In the 60's this was funny. Somebody would

gun
him down or call the Homeland Security forces on him these days.



I think I told this story before, so for those that have heard it, delete,
delete.

It's another Mrs. E. story. By now you should all have a clear mental image
of this lady's personality.

Anyway, this occurred several years ago, when we were living in our first
house and still had young kids at home. It was November and our next door
neighbor was an avid hunter. One evening I arrived home from work only to
find Mrs. E. in near hysterics. She hussled me down to one of the bedrooms,
pointed at a window that faced our neighbor's yard and screamed, "Look!"

The neighbor who had obviously returned from a hunting trip had hung a
couple of gutted deer by their hind legs from a tree branch to drain. I am
not a hunter, and Mrs. E. is an animal lover, so she was screaming at me
that she was going to call the police, have the neighbor arrested, all kinds
of stuff.

I tried to calm her down and explained that although it was not pleasant, it
was perfectly legal and he was within his rights. I also explained the
draining process required before the meat was cut up and either frozen or
cooked. It took some doing, but finally she calmed down and accepted it for
what it was.

A few weeks later Mrs. E. decided it was time to decorate the house and yard
for Christmas. Again, I came home one day to find that she had purchased and
set up some of those white, wire deer lawn displays with the lights and all.
Later that evening, I happened to look out the bedroom window and saw
another wire deer, lights and all, hung by the rear legs on a tree in direct
view from our neighbor's house.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing November 24th 04 11:16 PM

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:15:06 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


Gould 0738 wrote in message
...
I always said give the deer a gun to shoot back. Obvious where the odds
would lie.


Al Cummmings, who wrote a bunch of cruising guidebooks years ago, once

worked
as a radio DJ in Seattle.

One year, on the opening day of deer season, he put on a hollowed out

trophy
head and stood next to one of our busy arterials with a rifle, pretending

to
take aim at passing motorists. In the 60's this was funny. Somebody would

gun
him down or call the Homeland Security forces on him these days.



I think I told this story before, so for those that have heard it, delete,
delete.

It's another Mrs. E. story. By now you should all have a clear mental image
of this lady's personality.

Anyway, this occurred several years ago, when we were living in our first
house and still had young kids at home. It was November and our next door
neighbor was an avid hunter. One evening I arrived home from work only to
find Mrs. E. in near hysterics. She hussled me down to one of the bedrooms,
pointed at a window that faced our neighbor's yard and screamed, "Look!"

The neighbor who had obviously returned from a hunting trip had hung a
couple of gutted deer by their hind legs from a tree branch to drain. I am
not a hunter, and Mrs. E. is an animal lover, so she was screaming at me
that she was going to call the police, have the neighbor arrested, all kinds
of stuff.

I tried to calm her down and explained that although it was not pleasant, it
was perfectly legal and he was within his rights. I also explained the
draining process required before the meat was cut up and either frozen or
cooked. It took some doing, but finally she calmed down and accepted it for
what it was.

A few weeks later Mrs. E. decided it was time to decorate the house and yard
for Christmas. Again, I came home one day to find that she had purchased and
set up some of those white, wire deer lawn displays with the lights and all.
Later that evening, I happened to look out the bedroom window and saw
another wire deer, lights and all, hung by the rear legs on a tree in direct
view from our neighbor's house.


LOL!!!

Just out of curiosity, is Mrs. E a vegetarian?

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown

Eisboch November 24th 04 11:54 PM


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message
...

LOL!!!

Just out of curiosity, is Mrs. E a vegetarian?

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown



No. She's Italian.

Eisboch :-)



Short Wave Sportfishing November 25th 04 12:08 AM

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:54:56 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message
.. .

LOL!!!

Just out of curiosity, is Mrs. E a vegetarian?


No. She's Italian.


Ah.....well then....

One of my wife's friends is a vegetarian, vegan actually, really into
animal rights and such and is still an avid hunter and fisher person.

I've never quite figured it out.

Later,

Tom

steve November 25th 04 02:41 AM

"Military records obtained by The Associated Press show he spent six years in
the California National Guard and earned a sharpshooter qualification badge.
But his primary role during his time in the Guard, from 1989-95, involved
clerical duties.

After his discharge, he spent two more years in the Individual Ready
Reserve. His records also include a Good Conduct medal."

Obviously not the crazy man as first believed.

Gould 0738 November 25th 04 02:53 AM

After his discharge, he spent two more years in the Individual Ready
Reserve. His records also include a Good Conduct medal."

Obviously not the crazy man as first believed.


What does a good conduct medal have to do with mental health?

del cecchi November 25th 04 03:06 AM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Seems you think the guy who did the shootings is a crazy man
and a murdering nut job. But, what if he was shot at first?


If he was shot at first:
The guy crossed the line after the original firefight where he killed

a couple
of folks.
The surviving hunters fled, and if one account is accurate one guy

(who
probably peed himself) was running down a trail calling "help, help!"

when the
nut job chased him down and shot him in the back. Not exactly self

defense.

snip

It will be interesting if he can be linked to the shooting of a hunter
in that same general area in 2001. Guy was found laying in the woods,
shot twice in the back. A late 80's Nissan or GMC pickup was reported
to have been seen in the area. Vang owns such a truck. And truck was
reported to have 3 asians. Vang had two companions, who have not been
located.

Might be no connection, might be a connection. I wonder if they got a
slug or two out of the 2001 guy.

del cecchi



Matt Lang November 25th 04 03:45 AM

(Gould 0738) wrote in message ...
Didn't some Vietnam war hero do the same thing?
John H


Maybe but this isnt war this is civilized (?) america.


Thousands did.

In a war, you shoot at the enemy until he dies or surrenders, not just until he
turns his back on you.


Hunters=enemies? shoot them?

Matt


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