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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:46:41 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:09:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: This morning, while burning some old gas in the Ranger, I took the following sequence of pictures at various speeds. Couple of comments: Nice lake. Where is it? Webster, MA. Lake Chargogagogmanchaugagogchabungamungagog. How do you handle the boat single handed with no dock at the ramp? What - you can't launch without a dock? What a wimp... :) Simple, boat comes off the trailer, bow line attached to trailer, pull boat to the side, beach same. The boat has a keel guard. I'm not used to seeing the tach so high and the speedo so low. At 5000 RPM, I'm touching 70 MPH, so if I saw that, I'd think my prop was slipping or severely ventilating..... It's not. Your boat was planing between 2000 and 3000 RPM judging from the shape of the wake. My experience has shown me that the wake develops a white frothy churn as it starts to rise up out of the water (about 2000 RPM on my boat). The froth eventually retreats to a large "hump" almost resembling a rooster tail just before fully on plane. As the wake finally flattens, that is the point that you are officially "on-plane". At that point your MPH will jump up sharply with a slight rise in RPM (due to the load lessening). Mine is pretty much the opposite. At 3k, the boat leaps up to 4k and the speed goes from 20/23 to 30/35 and we're off to the races. It's quite interesting to watch and experience. See my post to DSK about the prop thing. I can slowly push my boat up to 3000 RPM and not be going more than 15 MPH initially. Once it goes "over the hump", the speed will quickly rise to about 40 MPH, and the tach will jump to about 3400 RPM. When I back it back to 3000, the speed will hold at 38 MPH. I can drop it back to about 2300 RPM, and about 22 MPH with the tabs down before it falls back off plane. I can't hold plane much below 20. Later, Tom |
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:38:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:46:41 -0500, Dave Hall wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:09:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: This morning, while burning some old gas in the Ranger, I took the following sequence of pictures at various speeds. Couple of comments: Nice lake. Where is it? Webster, MA. Lake Chargogagogmanchaugagogchabungamungagog. How do you handle the boat single handed with no dock at the ramp? What - you can't launch without a dock? What a wimp... :) Simple, boat comes off the trailer, bow line attached to trailer, pull boat to the side, beach same. The boat has a keel guard. I guess I'm guilty of being a wimp then. I can't get on my boat without having access to the stern, so beaching it at this time of the year is not the best way to stay warm and dry. I also don't have a keel guard and I have an aversion to scratching up the nice shiny gelcoat. I'm not used to seeing the tach so high and the speedo so low. At 5000 RPM, I'm touching 70 MPH, so if I saw that, I'd think my prop was slipping or severely ventilating..... It's not. I know. It's just a radical departure from the "norm" that I'm used to seeing. Your boat was planing between 2000 and 3000 RPM judging from the shape of the wake. My experience has shown me that the wake develops a white frothy churn as it starts to rise up out of the water (about 2000 RPM on my boat). The froth eventually retreats to a large "hump" almost resembling a rooster tail just before fully on plane. As the wake finally flattens, that is the point that you are officially "on-plane". At that point your MPH will jump up sharply with a slight rise in RPM (due to the load lessening). Mine is pretty much the opposite. At 3k, the boat leaps up to 4k and the speed goes from 20/23 to 30/35 and we're off to the races. It's quite interesting to watch and experience. See my post to DSK about the prop thing. Your prop experiences are somewhat odd. Every inch of pitch should change engine speed about 200 RPM. But more importantly, if the engine is propped at the point where the sum of torque and H.P. are the highest (Usually near the top of the rated RPM range), you should see a greater speed than the same style prop with a lower or higher pitch. It's strange that your speed remains constant while RPM is all over the place. I would think you should see SOME difference in speed. Also, higher rake props will add bow lift and allow you to trim farther up, which should result in less wetted hull surface(drag) , and a corresponding increase in speed and RPM. Setback engine brackets allow the engine to be placed in an area of less turbulent water, which then allows you to raise the engine height, and thereby reducing gearcase drag, which also translates to higher speed. I can slowly push my boat up to 3000 RPM and not be going more than 15 MPH initially. Once it goes "over the hump", the speed will quickly rise to about 40 MPH, and the tach will jump to about 3400 RPM. When I back it back to 3000, the speed will hold at 38 MPH. I can drop it back to about 2300 RPM, and about 22 MPH with the tabs down before it falls back off plane. I can't hold plane much below 20. I can't either. If not for the trim tabs, I wouldn't be able to go much lower than 25. Then again, my boat isn't designed for slow speeds. Dave |
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:55:58 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:38:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:46:41 -0500, Dave Hall wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:09:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: This morning, while burning some old gas in the Ranger, I took the following sequence of pictures at various speeds. Couple of comments: Nice lake. Where is it? Webster, MA. Lake Chargogagogmanchaugagogchabungamungagog. How do you handle the boat single handed with no dock at the ramp? What - you can't launch without a dock? What a wimp... :) Simple, boat comes off the trailer, bow line attached to trailer, pull boat to the side, beach same. The boat has a keel guard. I guess I'm guilty of being a wimp then. I can't get on my boat without having access to the stern, so beaching it at this time of the year is not the best way to stay warm and dry. I also don't have a keel guard and I have an aversion to scratching up the nice shiny gelcoat. Your boat is considerably different than mine - your wimpyness is hereby excused. For the nonce. :) Later, Tom |
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![]() "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Your boat is considerably different than mine - your wimpyness is hereby excused. For the nonce. :) Later, Inland lake sailors with the same boat as me..keep the boat a bit off shore on the anchor while stowing vehicle/trailer. Then then wade/swim out to the boat and use a boarding ladder. The North Atlantic tends to be a bit cooler than inland lakes...so this is a bit more uncomfortable. |
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:19:48 GMT, "Don White"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . Your boat is considerably different than mine - your wimpyness is hereby excused. For the nonce. :) Later, Inland lake sailors with the same boat as me..keep the boat a bit off shore on the anchor while stowing vehicle/trailer. Then then wade/swim out to the boat and use a boarding ladder. The North Atlantic tends to be a bit cooler than inland lakes...so this is a bit more uncomfortable. What kind of sailor do you have? Later, Tom |
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