On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:53:18 GMT, "rick etter" wrote:


"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:26:02 GMT, "rick etter" wrote:

Then start a thread about paddling...

I doubt it. That sounds like it involves either work or thinking, and I'd
rather just sit here and thoughtlessly complain.

See, that's why it's easy to reply to anything.





Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
Guns don't kill people, religions do

Actually, I've never seen a 'religion' kill anyone, zeolots do though.

As long as we are picking nits, what the hell is a "zeolot"?

As long as we're nitpicking, maybe you could be our on-line spell checker,
or are you serious about not knowing what a zealot is?

Again, that sounds like it might involve either work or thinking, I don't
do those. And actually, I don't believe real "religious zealots" are doing
much of any killing. I think it is being done by warped people (who knows
for what reason) in the name of religion. I think real religious zealots
are pretty scarce, and I doubt you or I have ever even heard of any of
them. I think there are some real fruitcakes (to put it mildly) running
around doing all kinds of things in the name of "religion." They are often
characterized by the popular press as being some kind of "religious
zealot," but that doesn't really mean that they are, by any means. I'm no
expert on this at all, but I have heard of folks that believe (religiously)
that they can hasten what they call the "end times," so in a sense that
religion might actually kill people.

Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
Guns don't kill people, religions do

I do most of my whitewater paddling in the winter so gloves are
important to me. I hate to say that the best pair of paddling gloves I
have found is in the hunting gear section of Walmart. The gloves are
neoprene and have a a rubber grip surface and are flexible enough to
allow a good grip on the paddle. Since paddling is my religion, gloves
play an important role in the worship services that I attend.

Lynn Tegrity

Dan O'Connell wrote:
This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very
cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot
windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got
wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight
pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip
may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice
as usual....Dan O

I meant to go to church to vote...my new polling place is in a local free
church (it was NOT free...they asked for money!)...ministered by a gay woman
(imagine her ordeal this year!) On the other hand...I never checked the
authenticity of the notice to switch the precinct polling place....hmm...did
I mention..I live in a "BLUE STATE" (MN)? I wonder if the Gay Christian
Community...stole the vote..and this state should have been Red? In any
case...I still need a decent pair of paddle gloves without starting a
collection of near-misses. Thanks....DanO
"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:40:57 GMT, "Dan O'Connell"
wrote:

OK....guys! They must not only keep my hands warm and dry on the way to
church...or out planting trees...but I also need the dexterity to load
and
fire my Bushmaster .223 (30 round clips) ...Is that better Galen??

No. You need to use them for politics too, somehow. Besides, you mention
using them going to church. That isn't hardly enough. Which church? And
how did the congregation vote?

Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
Guns don't kill people, religions do

"Galen Hekhuis" wrote...

I also have super lightweight
pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip
may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice
as usual....Dan O

Let me be among the first to complain about your bringing up a paddling
question in a paddling newsgroup. I live in Florida so I have no idea
about paddling gloves, I just wanted to make sure you were severely
reprimanded.

I hate paddling with gloves, so I use neoprene pogies. They work just fine for
me in the Puget Sound!

For hunting, you can just slip out of the pogies, pick up the gun, and shoot!

Tinkerntom wrote:

Wilko has some good suggestions as well on his site.

I have been considering using some Gortex ski gloves. They shed water,
have a poly pro liner/insulation, that stays warm, even when wet.
Don't ice up. And wears better than neoprene. TnT

I use NRS Mambas. A neoprene pogie that works very well. My hands have NEVER
been cold when paddling with these. I have neoprene gloves but if I have to
remove them for any reason they are pure hell to get back on when wet. My 2
cents.

"Dan O'Connell" wrote in message ink.net...
This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very
cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot
windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got
wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight
pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip
may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice
as usual....Dan O

After reading all the post to this thread, after sleeping in, and
staying nice and warm, and cozy, and being throughly refreshed, having
stayed home from church this Sunday morning, I thought of a great
invention.

Connect a pair of NEW-gloves, by a couple of flexible hoses, to a
Snorkeling mouthpiece! The hoses could be run down the inside of each
sleeve, so they don't get tangled up in everything else. Then when you
want to warm your hands, you could just blow some of that hot-air that
is so obviously abundant in this paddle group, voila' warm hands!

The mouthpiece, would double as a mouthguard, to protect your teeth
from being bashed in the boneyard, although that would eliminate the
happy paddler smile with broken teeth and busted lip as well. So use
with caution if you want to be known as a paddler on sight.

Another benefit, if you go inverted in a wet exit, etc. you would just
have to raise your hands above water, and you would be able to get
some needed air when the time comes and there is no hot air left in
your burning lungs. You could also play games with your buddies by
laying in the riverbed with only your hands extended, then jump up and
surprise them like Rambo. This would require the optional valve near
the hands that would automatically close when your hand is drawn below
the water, or as the case may be, you are inverted and you can not get
both hands clear to the surface.

Isn't it amazing how creative the rested and happy mind is, but then
that is why I am called Tinkerntom aka KnesisKnosis, Life, Live it!

BTW NEW stands for Neo-Euro-Wantabees, TnT

"Dan O'Connell" wrote in message
nk.net...
This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very
cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot
windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got
wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight
pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip
may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice
as usual....Dan O


NRS Toaster Mitts.

'Nuff Said.

-Paul

Dan O'Connell wrote:

This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very
cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot
windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got
wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight
pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip
may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice
as usual....Dan O


Mine have a neoprene back and washleather palms/fingers.
They should be wet to work properly but are great in
freezing weather.

--
Eiron.

On 11/20/2004 6:29 PM, Dan O'Connell wrote:

This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very
cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot
windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got
wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight
pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip
may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice
as usual....Dan O


Cool to Cold... Seal Skinz
http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.a...352&deptid=944

Colder... NRS Reactor
http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.a...415&deptid=944

Steve