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Gloves?
This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very
cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O |
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:29:53 GMT, "Dan O'Connell"
wrote: This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O Let me be among the first to complain about your bringing up a paddling question in a paddling newsgroup. I live in Florida so I have no idea about paddling gloves, I just wanted to make sure you were severely reprimanded. Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Guns don't kill people, religions do |
Dan O'Connell wrote:
This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O Neoprene is the best stuff I've found. Those simulated leather palm things get really cold really fast. I have a couple of pairs in 2mm and 3 mm thicknesses, depending on the temps. The key is to wear the thinnest gloves possible to stay warm. Excess neoprene between your hands and the paddle feels like paddling in boxing gloves; you can't get good finesse on the paddle. I have some Aleutian brand gloves from Bass Pro Shop that work pretty well. I like some of the NRSs, too. Or...really cheap and really warm: poly glove liners under dishwashing gloves. Steve -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA |
OK....guys! They must not only keep my hands warm and dry on the way to
church...or out planting trees...but I also need the dexterity to load and fire my Bushmaster .223 (30 round clips) ...Is that better Galen?? Dan O "Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message ... On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:29:53 GMT, "Dan O'Connell" wrote: This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O Let me be among the first to complain about your bringing up a paddling question in a paddling newsgroup. I live in Florida so I have no idea about paddling gloves, I just wanted to make sure you were severely reprimanded. Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Guns don't kill people, religions do |
OK....guys! They must not only keep my hands warm and dry on the way to
church...or out planting trees...but I also need the dexterity to load and fire my Bushmaster .223 (30 round clips) ...Is that better Galen?? Dan O "Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message ... On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:29:53 GMT, "Dan O'Connell" wrote: This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O Let me be among the first to complain about your bringing up a paddling question in a paddling newsgroup. I live in Florida so I have no idea about paddling gloves, I just wanted to make sure you were severely reprimanded. Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Guns don't kill people, religions do |
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:40:57 GMT, "Dan O'Connell"
wrote: OK....guys! They must not only keep my hands warm and dry on the way to church...or out planting trees...but I also need the dexterity to load and fire my Bushmaster .223 (30 round clips) ...Is that better Galen?? No. You need to use them for politics too, somehow. Besides, you mention using them going to church. That isn't hardly enough. Which church? And how did the congregation vote? Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Guns don't kill people, religions do |
"Steve Cramer" wrote in message ... Dan O'Connell wrote: This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O Neoprene is the best stuff I've found. Those simulated leather palm things get really cold really fast. I have a couple of pairs in 2mm and 3 mm thicknesses, depending on the temps. The key is to wear the thinnest gloves possible to stay warm. Excess neoprene between your hands and the paddle feels like paddling in boxing gloves; you can't get good finesse on the paddle. I have some Aleutian brand gloves from Bass Pro Shop that work pretty well. I like some of the NRSs, too. Or...really cheap and really warm: poly glove liners under dishwashing gloves. ==================== I had a pair of neo-cons, I mean neoprenes that worked well. They were fairly thick but they had a kind pre-bent grip to them so it was easy to hold a paddle. I can't remember what kind they were, and haven't found the same thing yet. I left them at take out. Worked great in cold weather. I think I forgot them because they got covered in snow last day of last trip last year. If you find them on the Black River in Quebec, let us know what kind they were! Steve -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA |
"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message ... On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:29:53 GMT, "Dan O'Connell" wrote: This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O Let me be among the first to complain about your bringing up a paddling question in a paddling newsgroup. I live in Florida so I have no idea about paddling gloves, I just wanted to make sure you were severely reprimanded. Then start a thread about paddling... Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Guns don't kill people, religions do Actually, I've never seen a 'religion' kill anyone, zeolots do though. |
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:26:02 GMT, "rick etter" wrote:
Then start a thread about paddling... I doubt it. That sounds like it involves either work or thinking, and I'd rather just sit here and thoughtlessly complain. Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Guns don't kill people, religions do Actually, I've never seen a 'religion' kill anyone, zeolots do though. As long as we are picking nits, what the hell is a "zeolot"? Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Guns don't kill people, religions do |
"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message ... On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:26:02 GMT, "rick etter" wrote: Then start a thread about paddling... I doubt it. That sounds like it involves either work or thinking, and I'd rather just sit here and thoughtlessly complain. See, that's why it's easy to reply to anything. Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Guns don't kill people, religions do Actually, I've never seen a 'religion' kill anyone, zeolots do though. As long as we are picking nits, what the hell is a "zeolot"? As long as we're nitpicking, maybe you could be our on-line spell checker, or are you serious about not knowing what a zealot is? Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Guns don't kill people, religions do |
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:53:18 GMT, "rick etter" wrote:
"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:26:02 GMT, "rick etter" wrote: Then start a thread about paddling... I doubt it. That sounds like it involves either work or thinking, and I'd rather just sit here and thoughtlessly complain. See, that's why it's easy to reply to anything. Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Guns don't kill people, religions do Actually, I've never seen a 'religion' kill anyone, zeolots do though. As long as we are picking nits, what the hell is a "zeolot"? As long as we're nitpicking, maybe you could be our on-line spell checker, or are you serious about not knowing what a zealot is? Again, that sounds like it might involve either work or thinking, I don't do those. And actually, I don't believe real "religious zealots" are doing much of any killing. I think it is being done by warped people (who knows for what reason) in the name of religion. I think real religious zealots are pretty scarce, and I doubt you or I have ever even heard of any of them. I think there are some real fruitcakes (to put it mildly) running around doing all kinds of things in the name of "religion." They are often characterized by the popular press as being some kind of "religious zealot," but that doesn't really mean that they are, by any means. I'm no expert on this at all, but I have heard of folks that believe (religiously) that they can hasten what they call the "end times," so in a sense that religion might actually kill people. Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Guns don't kill people, religions do |
I do most of my whitewater paddling in the winter so gloves are
important to me. I hate to say that the best pair of paddling gloves I have found is in the hunting gear section of Walmart. The gloves are neoprene and have a a rubber grip surface and are flexible enough to allow a good grip on the paddle. Since paddling is my religion, gloves play an important role in the worship services that I attend. Lynn Tegrity Dan O'Connell wrote: This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O |
I meant to go to church to vote...my new polling place is in a local free
church (it was NOT free...they asked for money!)...ministered by a gay woman (imagine her ordeal this year!) On the other hand...I never checked the authenticity of the notice to switch the precinct polling place....hmm...did I mention..I live in a "BLUE STATE" (MN)? I wonder if the Gay Christian Community...stole the vote..and this state should have been Red? In any case...I still need a decent pair of paddle gloves without starting a collection of near-misses. Thanks....DanO "Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message ... On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:40:57 GMT, "Dan O'Connell" wrote: OK....guys! They must not only keep my hands warm and dry on the way to church...or out planting trees...but I also need the dexterity to load and fire my Bushmaster .223 (30 round clips) ...Is that better Galen?? No. You need to use them for politics too, somehow. Besides, you mention using them going to church. That isn't hardly enough. Which church? And how did the congregation vote? Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Guns don't kill people, religions do |
"Galen Hekhuis" wrote...
I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O Let me be among the first to complain about your bringing up a paddling question in a paddling newsgroup. I live in Florida so I have no idea about paddling gloves, I just wanted to make sure you were severely reprimanded. I hate paddling with gloves, so I use neoprene pogies. They work just fine for me in the Puget Sound! For hunting, you can just slip out of the pogies, pick up the gun, and shoot! |
Tinkerntom wrote:
Wilko has some good suggestions as well on his site. I have been considering using some Gortex ski gloves. They shed water, have a poly pro liner/insulation, that stays warm, even when wet. Don't ice up. And wears better than neoprene. TnT |
I use NRS Mambas. A neoprene pogie that works very well. My hands have NEVER
been cold when paddling with these. I have neoprene gloves but if I have to remove them for any reason they are pure hell to get back on when wet. My 2 cents. |
"Dan O'Connell" wrote in message ink.net...
This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O After reading all the post to this thread, after sleeping in, and staying nice and warm, and cozy, and being throughly refreshed, having stayed home from church this Sunday morning, I thought of a great invention. Connect a pair of NEW-gloves, by a couple of flexible hoses, to a Snorkeling mouthpiece! The hoses could be run down the inside of each sleeve, so they don't get tangled up in everything else. Then when you want to warm your hands, you could just blow some of that hot-air that is so obviously abundant in this paddle group, voila' warm hands! The mouthpiece, would double as a mouthguard, to protect your teeth from being bashed in the boneyard, although that would eliminate the happy paddler smile with broken teeth and busted lip as well. So use with caution if you want to be known as a paddler on sight. Another benefit, if you go inverted in a wet exit, etc. you would just have to raise your hands above water, and you would be able to get some needed air when the time comes and there is no hot air left in your burning lungs. You could also play games with your buddies by laying in the riverbed with only your hands extended, then jump up and surprise them like Rambo. This would require the optional valve near the hands that would automatically close when your hand is drawn below the water, or as the case may be, you are inverted and you can not get both hands clear to the surface. Isn't it amazing how creative the rested and happy mind is, but then that is why I am called Tinkerntom aka KnesisKnosis, Life, Live it! BTW NEW stands for Neo-Euro-Wantabees, TnT |
"Dan O'Connell" wrote in message
nk.net... This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O NRS Toaster Mitts. 'Nuff Said. -Paul |
Dan O'Connell wrote:
This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O Mine have a neoprene back and washleather palms/fingers. They should be wet to work properly but are great in freezing weather. -- Eiron. |
On 11/20/2004 6:29 PM, Dan O'Connell wrote:
This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O Cool to Cold... Seal Skinz http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.a...352&deptid=944 Colder... NRS Reactor http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.a...415&deptid=944 Steve |
"Paul Skoczylas" wrote in message news:gssod.176803$df2.33143@edtnps89...
"Dan O'Connell" wrote in message nk.net... This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O NRS Toaster Mitts. Yep, I second the paddling mittens! From my site: The problem with pogies is that they usually either require teeth or the help of someone else to get your hands in them. If you do get your hands in them easily, so will the water... Pogies are of no use when you need to scout a rapid, as they stay attached to a paddle. I also find that when I need to get my hands out to grab someone or something, they get so cold so quickly that I lose some of the control in that hand. It's also not easy to get your hand back into them if you need to get your hand back in in the middle of a rapid. I have a pair of Walmart neoprene hunting gloves, but they are only used for when I handpaddle in the winter. The fingers are encased seperately, keeping them less warm. The fingers cannot touch the paddle, making you involuntarily grip your paddle harder, tiring your fingers. If you use gloves that don't have pre-bent fingers, you're also forcing your fingers to push against the neoprene even more, trying to keep them around the paddle shaft. I also find that with gloves I can't feel the buttons on my waterproof camera, which results in pictures not being taken. Plenty of reason for me not to use gloves when paddling with a normal paddle. Pre bent open palm mittens circumvent the problems of both gloves as well as pogies: You keep all your fingers together, keeping them warmer. You keep in direct touch with your paddle, keeping better control, and not having to squeeze extra hard to keep a hold of your paddle. You get to keep your hands warm, even if you go for a swim, lose your paddle or when you're scouting a rapid. You don't have to fight against the straight glove fingers keeping your fingers around the paddle shaft. It's also easy to pull one or more of your fingers free of the end of the mittens, so that taking pictures is rather easy. Whatever you chose to go paddling with, make sure that you can still find and use the panic loop of your spraydeck with them! BT Regular David Mackintosh got very close to dying in the spring of 2002 when he got stuck upside down in a nasty hole and he couldn't pull his spraydeck with his surfer's mittens. -- Wilko van den Bergh wilko(a t)dse(d o t)nl Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe ---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.--- http://wilko.webzone.ru/ |
Dan O'Connell wrote:
: This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very : cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot : windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got : wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight : pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip : may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice : as usual....Dan O Well, I just keep a pair of whatever brand neoprene gloves REI sells and a pair of fleece gloves with me when its cold. Use a pelican box or something to keep them dry... -- John Nelson ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org (A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell) -- John Nelson ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org (A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell) |
Dan O'Connell wrote:
This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O For air/water temps above 50, I wear 3mm neoprene gloves. I haven't found much difference between brands and the $15 Stearns gloves are as good as any. None of them last me more than a season, anyway. When temps go below 50, I switch to Nordic Blue dry gloves with Smartwool liners. |
"Brian Nystrom" wrote in message ... Dan O'Connell wrote: This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O For air/water temps above 50, I wear 3mm neoprene gloves. I haven't found much difference between brands and the $15 Stearns gloves are as good as any. None of them last me more than a season, anyway. When temps go below 50, I switch to Nordic Blue dry gloves with Smartwool liners. Brian...Which cuffs do you have? I have seals at the wrists of my semi dry top...recommendation?? Removing the liner and using Smart Wool...which model would be the easiest to put on...if I do that? http://www.nordic-blue.com/butik/index.asp?sp=eThis is for air temps to the mid twenties and a water temp of thirty (Minnesota!) btw...My favorite in my fleet is my Pintail (read your other post on VCP, CD, P&H)...maneuverable is an understatement...and pure fun! Dan O |
"Dan O'Connell" wrote in message ink.net... "Brian Nystrom" wrote in message ... Dan O'Connell wrote: This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O For air/water temps above 50, I wear 3mm neoprene gloves. I haven't found much difference between brands and the $15 Stearns gloves are as good as any. None of them last me more than a season, anyway. When temps go below 50, I switch to Nordic Blue dry gloves with Smartwool liners. Brian...Which cuffs do you have? I have seals at the wrists of my semi dry top...recommendation?? Removing the liner and using Smart Wool...which model would be the easiest to put on...if I do that? http://www.nordic-blue.com/butik/index.asp?sp=eThis is for air temps to the mid twenties and a water temp of thirty (Minnesota!) btw...My favorite in my fleet is my Pintail (read your other post on VCP, CD, P&H)...maneuverable is an understatement...and pure fun! Dan O whoops...the correct link http://www.nordic-blue.com/butik/index.asp?sp=e ...sorry! |
Dan O'Connell wrote:
"Dan O'Connell" wrote in message ink.net... "Brian Nystrom" wrote in message ... Dan O'Connell wrote: This may be off topic (LOL) but does anyone have a favorite brand of very cold water/airtemp paddling gloves. I bought a pair of Marmot windproof/water resistant gloves this week..and froze the instant they got wet. Is neoprene the best...etc? I also have super lightweight pogies/mambas...so coupled with something else thinner and with tacky grip may be my goal? Thanks in advance...this group always has the best advice as usual....Dan O For air/water temps above 50, I wear 3mm neoprene gloves. I haven't found much difference between brands and the $15 Stearns gloves are as good as any. None of them last me more than a season, anyway. When temps go below 50, I switch to Nordic Blue dry gloves with Smartwool liners. Brian...Which cuffs do you have? I have seals at the wrists of my semi dry top...recommendation?? Removing the liner and using Smart Wool...which model would be the easiest to put on...if I do that? http://www.nordic-blue.com/butik/index.asp?sp=eThis is for air temps to the mid twenties and a water temp of thirty (Minnesota!) btw...My favorite in my fleet is my Pintail (read your other post on VCP, CD, P&H)...maneuverable is an understatement...and pure fun! Dan O whoops...the correct link http://www.nordic-blue.com/butik/index.asp?sp=e ..sorry! I've got the Model 302 with the standard conical latex seals. They're in the middle of the photo in the link above. While the the models with the rings look intriguing, they have one huge disadvantage; you can't take off the gloves without compromising the sealing of your dry suit. The liners I use a just plain ol' Smartwool gloves with the extended cuff removed so it can't get under the seal. How warm they'll keep you is hard to say. My hands get cold pretty easy, so I'm not a good person to ask. For really cold temps, mitts (such as Brooks) should be much warmer, but I don't like their lack of feel and dexterity. Since I paddle with a Greenland stick, pogies are not an option, but I know a lot of people who swear by them in conjunction with gloves for really cold weather. Pintails ROOL, Dood! |
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