No way! A 120 Lehman can not burn 12 gals per hour even at WOT into the wind.

Capt. Bill

Agreed.

Nor will a 36 GB with a single 120 Lehman turn 12 knots.

But I don't think it makes any difference if you are running up or down wind-
that will change your SOG, but fuel consumption will be a function of throttle
setting.

Gould 0738 wrote:
No way! A 120 Lehman can not burn 12 gals per hour even at WOT into the wind.

Capt. Bill


Agreed.

Nor will a 36 GB with a single 120 Lehman turn 12 knots.

But I don't think it makes any difference if you are running up or down wind-
that will change your SOG, but fuel consumption will be a function of throttle
setting.


I was reading an archived article from "Soundings" on the GB 36. Here's
a section of the article:

"In many cases, single-engine models provide efficient cruising in the
8- to 9- knot range and burn a stingy three gallons per hour (gph).
Top-end speeds rise to 10 to 11 knots, but fuel consumption jumps to 12 gph"

It doesn't really say what engine. The complete article can be found at:

http://www.oya.com/library/sndgb36.php

For Mrs. E, it really doesn't matter. Her personal cruising will
probably be limited to chugging along through the harbor, around
Basset's island and back, all within a 6kt max speed zone.

Eisboch

On 14 Nov 2004 05:02:24 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: I have a crazy wife
From: Short Wave Sportfishing

Just can't see me in a Grand Banks - ain't my style. :)

Then you've never seen the GB sport fish model with 3208T CATs in it. :-)

Very rare. I think they only built 13 or so of them.
We have one in our charter fleet.

http://boat-charters.com/front.html

Take a look at "Raffles".

I'll be danged.

Nice boat. A little too nice for me. WAY too much wood. :)

My wife has a couple of years left before she retires, so I'm not
exactly sure what lay ahead in terms of boat, but I have this vague
suspicion that "we" are going to sell the Contender and get something
will a full cabin. I would also like to keep it in the 32/35 foot
category.

I've been looking at these:

http://www.topazboats.com/Site/32Express/32x.html

but I don't really want diesels.

I wonder if I could custom make one of these for three outboards?

By the way, does that boat remind anybody of the old Uniflite 28
Express?

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I've been looking at these:

http://www.topazboats.com/Site/32Express/32x.html

but I don't really want diesels.

I wonder if I could custom make one of these for three outboards?

By the way, does that boat remind anybody of the old Uniflite 28
Express?

Later,

Tom

Are you referring to the "Salty Dog"? It does have a little resemblance
I guess. Nice looking boat. Why are you opposed to diesels?

BTW, prior to getting the Navigator, I had a 28' 1978 Uniflite Mega,
complete with blisters all over the deck.

Eisboch

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:35:07 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:

LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: I have a crazy wife
From: Eisboch


Small genset (4 kw) no air conditioning.


Will you be cruising on it while in FL?

Capt. Bill


Very, very doubtful. I suspect it will used here in MA, mostly sitting
in the slip as a gathering place for the "girls" with an occasional
weekend trip to Martha's Vineyard, Cuttyhunk or Nantucket. Any cruising
in Florida will be on the Navigator.

I was thinking that you almost have to plan trips on this GB as if it
were a sailboat. The Cape Cod Canal is known for very strong currents -
as much as 7 kts or so as the tide changes. If she were to head north
towards Cape Cod Bay at the wrong time in the canal, she could end up
returning before she left.

Talk about set and drift.

I've had problems up around the railroad bridge in the Contender at
the wrong tide. Nothing like the Blynman Bridge over the Annisquam up
in Gloucester though. Or the entrance to the Merrimack in Newburyport
in a NE wind. :)

Later,

Tom

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 06:46:44 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I've been looking at these:

http://www.topazboats.com/Site/32Express/32x.html

but I don't really want diesels.

I wonder if I could custom make one of these for three outboards?

By the way, does that boat remind anybody of the old Uniflite 28
Express?

Are you referring to the "Salty Dog"? It does have a little resemblance
I guess. Nice looking boat. Why are you opposed to diesels?

Well, to tell the truth I'm a little leery of vibration in a boat this
size. It would seem to me that twin diesels in a boat like this it
would be both noisy and lot's of vibration.

BTW, prior to getting the Navigator, I had a 28' 1978 Uniflite Mega,
complete with blisters all over the deck.

I saw one of those a couple of weeks ago at a yard up in Fall River.
Interesting boat.

Later,

Tom

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 06:02:51 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:
I was reading an archived article from "Soundings" on the GB 36. Here's
a section of the article:

"In many cases, single-engine models provide efficient cruising in the
8- to 9- knot range and burn a stingy three gallons per hour (gph).
Top-end speeds rise to 10 to 11 knots, but fuel consumption jumps to 12 gph"

The most efficient cruising speed for a 36 is about 7+ kts, burning
maybe 2 gph or so depending on conditions. Above that, the demand for
hosepower increases very quickly. A burn rate of 12 gph implies over
200 horsepower.


It doesn't really say what engine. The complete article can be found at:

http://www.oya.com/library/sndgb36.php


It looks like a bit of journalistic over exuberance crept into the
article.

For Mrs. E, it really doesn't matter. Her personal cruising will
probably be limited to chugging along through the harbor, around
Basset's island and back, all within a 6kt max speed zone.

It will be perfect for that.

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:37:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I've been looking at these:

http://www.topazboats.com/Site/32Express/32x.html

but I don't really want diesels.

===============================

Trust me on this one, you absolutely do want diesels. In order to get
decent speed with gas engines on a boat of that type you will be
looking at a fuel burn of over 40 gph. Diesels, about half that.

Wayne.B wrote:



It looks like a bit of journalistic over exuberance crept into the
article.

Yup. Journalists seem to have a habit of that.



For Mrs. E, it really doesn't matter. Her personal cruising will
probably be limited to chugging along through the harbor, around
Basset's island and back, all within a 6kt max speed zone.


It will be perfect for that.

I think so too.

Eisboch (really starting to look forward to Florida)

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:37:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


I've been looking at these:

http://www.topazboats.com/Site/32Express/32x.html

but I don't really want diesels.


===============================

Trust me on this one, you absolutely do want diesels. In order to get
decent speed with gas engines on a boat of that type you will be
looking at a fuel burn of over 40 gph. Diesels, about half that.


I forgot to follow up with Tom on that, although he seems to have a lot
more boating experience than I. The issue of vibration is boat specific
I think. The Egg Harbor I used to have had a resonant RPM while
accelerating that caused all the hatches in the cockpit to vibrate
loudly and the Cat 3126 engines were noisy, but it was not a big issue.
The Navigator sounds and feels more like a Greyhound Bus, probably due
to the extensive engine room insulation and the smaller Volvo diesels.
It is very smooth and quiet with the auto syncs on. The only time the
boat vibrates is at closed throttle idle, in neutral and with the syncs
off. Exhaust smell and "station wagon" effect is non-existent when underway.

On smaller boats I prefer 4 stroke outboard(s). On bigger boats, I am
hooked on diesel power and will never go back to gas.

It's really a matter of personal preference.

Eisboch