you guys wasted 40 posts on this subject? Der!

In most cities the
inner city is becoming gentrified. Young professionals are buying homes in
the city, getting strict zoning and covenants passed so they will have their
investments protected.

You can't just "pass" a covenant.
Covenants are a burden on the title, just like an easement. They work in brand
new suburban developments because the original owner of the land, the
developer, draws up the covenants for the "homeowner's association" and passes
titles burdened with the covenants to the buyers of individual homes and lots.
The title remains burdened as the properties continue to resell. A majority of
members in most HOA's can vote to disband the covenant, but nobody can come to
an existing property owner of record and say. "We've formed a home owner's
association on the other side of the street. We demand that you move your
garbage cans from your side yard to the back, take down your basketball hoop,
paint the siding one of these six approved colors, and get that boat and
trailer out of your driveway......"

At least in this neck of the woods, and with out real estate laws in this
state, y'are talking through your hat.

When zoning changes, existing uses are "grandfathered" in, property owners are
not customarily forced to tear down a structure or change the use of a property
that predates a zoning change. A zoning change will effect future use.

*Half assed facetious* my ass.


"Suburbia: where everybody lives on a dead end street....."

Next time I'll be more obvious :-)

Very often on the news, I'll hear an announcer say something like,
"The subject was a black male, about 200 lbs. and about six feet tall,
etc." Is that wrong? Is that a racial slur? Or is it simply a fact?

If the description is offered as part of an appeal to help locate somebody who
is suspected of a crime, that's completely legitimate. You also hear, "The
suspect is a white male, 35-40 years of age, with a shaved head and heavily
tattooed." In such a case, the description *is* the news.

Gould does seem to have gotten on a high horse and has a real superiority
complex.
He is one of the most bigoted and close minded person I have meet in

Good lord, I'm an asshole. To slip any lower, I'd have to begin posting insults
and negative personal comments when I run out of points in a debate.

What's up with the structure of this sentence?

He is one of the most bigoted and close minded person I have meet in

You're entitled to your opinion, and entitled to express it. If you can manage
to write on a more literate level, perhaps a greater number of people will find
your opinions credible.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
*Half assed facetious* my ass.


"Suburbia: where everybody lives on a dead end street....."

Next time I'll be more obvious :-)

That line was obvious. But it does seem like you have a hard on for
everything and anything you either do not own, wear, eat, drive or believe
in.

Learn to be more open to and able to accept places, things and ideals
foreign to you Chuck. Otherwise you are missing out on a great experience
in life. ;-)

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Gould does seem to have gotten on a high horse and has a real superiority
complex.
He is one of the most bigoted and close minded person I have meet in

Good lord, I'm an asshole. To slip any lower, I'd have to begin posting
insults
and negative personal comments when I run out of points in a debate.

What's up with the structure of this sentence?

He is one of the most bigoted and close minded person I have meet in

You're entitled to your opinion, and entitled to express it. If you can
manage
to write on a more literate level, perhaps a greater number of people will
find
your opinions credible.



Didn't you just say " To slip any lower, I'd have to begin posting insults
and negative personal comments when I run out of points in a debate"??

My, my my.

Gould,

Thanks for the legal definition of covenants, but covenants are used in
cities all the time. A developer buys a tract of land, he then set up
covenants for that tract of land. It is also very common for cities to enact
laws that do the exact same thing as a covenant. Cities can designate an
area as a historic district and have architectural committees who need to
approve any changes made to your property, they need to approve the color
you plan on painting your house, where you trash cans can be stored, how
quickly you need to remove the trash cans from the street, if you are
allowed to have a basketball hoop visible from the front of the street, if
you are allowed to keep cars and/or boats on the street or even visible from
the street. The laws can be stricter than the majority of HOA covenants.
These laws are enacted because it provides homeowners and banks confidence
to invest the money necessary to improve the property, and give them some
assurance that the home's value will not be depreciated due to your neighbor
painting his house purple polka dots. The city approve the laws because it
revitalizes inner city neighborhoods.

Again, in your bigoted mind, this is something you believe you only find in
the lily white suburbs (which have not been lily white for a long time). Do
you think minorities are too stupid to understand the benefits of community
standards that will increase the value of their property? The fact that you
find a neighborhood without any zoning, architectural guidelines or property
use laws a benefit, says you should not live in a neighborhood with a HOA,
or a historic district. My guess is those people who live in those
communities are very glad you are not living next to them.

I am curious as to why you are upset about those people who chose to live in
the suburbs? Why do you think minorities do not live in the suburbs? You
seem to live in a time warp where you believe nothing has changed since the
60's. In the last 40 years the world has changed, but your understanding of
the world has not.


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
In most cities the
inner city is becoming gentrified. Young professionals are buying homes
in
the city, getting strict zoning and covenants passed so they will have
their
investments protected.

You can't just "pass" a covenant.
Covenants are a burden on the title, just like an easement. They work in
brand
new suburban developments because the original owner of the land, the
developer, draws up the covenants for the "homeowner's association" and
passes
titles burdened with the covenants to the buyers of individual homes and
lots.
The title remains burdened as the properties continue to resell. A
majority of
members in most HOA's can vote to disband the covenant, but nobody can
come to
an existing property owner of record and say. "We've formed a home owner's
association on the other side of the street. We demand that you move your
garbage cans from your side yard to the back, take down your basketball
hoop,
paint the siding one of these six approved colors, and get that boat and
trailer out of your driveway......"

At least in this neck of the woods, and with out real estate laws in this
state, y'are talking through your hat.

When zoning changes, existing uses are "grandfathered" in, property owners
are
not customarily forced to tear down a structure or change the use of a
property
that predates a zoning change. A zoning change will effect future use.

That is what happens when I get distracted in the middle of a sentence, and
then finish the sentence without rereading it.

Do you believe your opinions are more creditable than others?



"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Gould does seem to have gotten on a high horse and has a real superiority
complex.
He is one of the most bigoted and close minded person I have meet in

Good lord, I'm an asshole. To slip any lower, I'd have to begin posting
insults
and negative personal comments when I run out of points in a debate.

What's up with the structure of this sentence?

He is one of the most bigoted and close minded person I have meet in

You're entitled to your opinion, and entitled to express it. If you can
manage
to write on a more literate level, perhaps a greater number of people will
find
your opinions credible.

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
Didn't you just say " To slip any lower, I'd have to begin posting insults
and negative personal comments when I run out of points in a debate"??

My, my my.


That seems to be Gould's new MO.

Do you believe your opinions are more creditable than others?

To whom?

Be careful not to confuse credible with creditable. That which is credible is
worthy of belief or agreement. That which is creditable is worthy of applause.

For example: You state "Gould is the most
bigoted, closed-minded person I ever met",
(or attempted to state same), and whether or not anyone found your sentiment
credible, one of the usual high-fivers found it creditable.

I believe that insults and/or opinions conveyed by clumsy or careless language
are more than usually revealing. Insults always indicate more about the
insulter than his or her subject, but nothing beats a classic like, "I think
their is plenty of evidence that you is stupid."

My advice to you, or to anyone else who cares to express opinions about other
individuals, would be to frame those observations in complete sentences with
some attention to grammar and syntax.

It is so easy to sound juvenile when making negative personal comments. It
becomes more important to avoid a sloppy, careless, use of the language
that reinforces an impression that you'll have to get off line when Dad gets
home and catches you playing with his computer.

Didn't you just say " To slip any lower, I'd have to begin posting insults
and negative personal comments when I run out of points in a debate"??

My, my my.


That seems to be Gould's new MO.


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gossip

It looks like you realize you have lost the debate and now are resorting to
personal insults concerning my sentence structure and syntax. Gould, this
is not the New Yorker. This is Usenet and it is common for people to jot
off quick retorts and they will make typos and/or grammatical errors.

The fact still stands that you are extremely bigoted against those who have
different beliefs or values.



"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Do you believe your opinions are more creditable than others?

To whom?

Be careful not to confuse credible with creditable. That which is credible
is
worthy of belief or agreement. That which is creditable is worthy of
applause.

For example: You state "Gould is the most
bigoted, closed-minded person I ever met",
(or attempted to state same), and whether or not anyone found your
sentiment
credible, one of the usual high-fivers found it creditable.

I believe that insults and/or opinions conveyed by clumsy or careless
language
are more than usually revealing. Insults always indicate more about the
insulter than his or her subject, but nothing beats a classic like, "I
think
their is plenty of evidence that you is stupid."

My advice to you, or to anyone else who cares to express opinions about
other
individuals, would be to frame those observations in complete sentences
with
some attention to grammar and syntax.

It is so easy to sound juvenile when making negative personal comments. It
becomes more important to avoid a sloppy, careless, use of the language
that reinforces an impression that you'll have to get off line when Dad
gets
home and catches you playing with his computer.

Your bigotry extends beyond beliefs and values. It extends to where someone
decides to live. If they live in the city, they are wonderful and
progressive. If they live in the suburbs they are just lily white
conformist. You seem to see everything in black or white. Gould, the world
is not as binary as you would like to believe.



"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote in message
news:eZgld.26531$V41.26299@attbi_s52...
It looks like you realize you have lost the debate and now are resorting
to personal insults concerning my sentence structure and syntax. Gould,
this is not the New Yorker. This is Usenet and it is common for people to
jot off quick retorts and they will make typos and/or grammatical errors.

The fact still stands that you are extremely bigoted against those who
have different beliefs or values.



"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Do you believe your opinions are more creditable than others?

To whom?

Be careful not to confuse credible with creditable. That which is
credible is
worthy of belief or agreement. That which is creditable is worthy of
applause.

For example: You state "Gould is the most
bigoted, closed-minded person I ever met",
(or attempted to state same), and whether or not anyone found your
sentiment
credible, one of the usual high-fivers found it creditable.

I believe that insults and/or opinions conveyed by clumsy or careless
language
are more than usually revealing. Insults always indicate more about the
insulter than his or her subject, but nothing beats a classic like, "I
think
their is plenty of evidence that you is stupid."

My advice to you, or to anyone else who cares to express opinions about
other
individuals, would be to frame those observations in complete sentences
with
some attention to grammar and syntax.

It is so easy to sound juvenile when making negative personal comments.
It
becomes more important to avoid a sloppy, careless, use of the language
that reinforces an impression that you'll have to get off line when Dad
gets
home and catches you playing with his computer.

It looks like you realize you have lost the debate and now are resorting to
personal insults concerning my sentence structure and syntax.

No dice, Doc. When you introduce the concept "Gould is an asshole....." to a
discussion you have broached a subject
over which there is little or any debate. Gould is an asshole. Operational
difference between Gould and some of the rest of the assholes here 'bouts is
that he isn't a non-boating asshole trolling through rec.boats for purposes of
picking fights with one specific poster and then expanding the mission to
include anybody who might seem slightly philosophically aligned with the
initial target.

Gould, this
is not the New Yorker. This is Usenet and it is common for people to jot
off quick retorts and they will make typos and/or grammatical errors.

It's more common for some than for others.

Sloppy grammar is a sign of intellectual sloth, at best, and wears awkwardly on
those who presume to criticize others for their deductive reasoning processes
and conclusions.

The fact still stands that you are extremely bigoted against those who have
different beliefs or values.

Naw, just against other assholes like myself. Maybe a little moreso against
intellectual weaklings who run out of ammo somewhere around the second volley
and start pitching dirty little insult turds ( an emotional payoff practice
suspected more frequently now to be the only reason they appeared to engage in
debate in the first place) rather than comparing and contrasting ideas and
perspectives.

Your bigotry extends beyond beliefs and values. It extends to where someone

How funny. A supposedly grown man who selects the "send" function, and then has
to jump back in with a fresh post because he realizes there is still some venom
left in the sac. :-)

Grade yourself an A for this one. You
exceed all previous expectations.

On 13 Nov 2004 02:30:24 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Very often on the news, I'll hear an announcer say something like,
"The subject was a black male, about 200 lbs. and about six feet tall,
etc." Is that wrong? Is that a racial slur? Or is it simply a fact?

If the description is offered as part of an appeal to help locate somebody who
is suspected of a crime, that's completely legitimate. You also hear, "The
suspect is a white male, 35-40 years of age, with a shaved head and heavily
tattooed." In such a case, the description *is* the news.

Exactly, and providing a description is not a racial slur.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On 13 Nov 2004 01:21:10 GMT, (Florida Keyz) wrote:

you guys wasted 40 posts on this subject? Der!

How would you know, if we've all been 'ploinked'?
John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
It looks like you realize you have lost the debate and now are resorting
to
personal insults concerning my sentence structure and syntax.

No dice, Doc. When you introduce the concept "Gould is an asshole....." to
a
discussion you have broached a subject
over which there is little or any debate.

You are correct. That concept is not debatable.

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
It looks like you realize you have lost the debate and now are resorting
to
personal insults concerning my sentence structure and syntax.

No dice, Doc. When you introduce the concept "Gould is an asshole....."
to a
discussion you have broached a subject
over which there is little or any debate.

You are correct. That concept is not debatable.


Sorry Chuck, I just could not resist. ;-)

Gould,

I never called you an asshole. I called you a bigot. The definition of
bigot is: "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race,
or politics and is intolerant of those who differ." If you believe in
having a debate comparing and contrasting ideas and perspectives, why would
you ever say " Suburbia, the primarily lily white land of cultural
conformity". I disagreed, as one who did live in suburbia. I stated that a
large percent of those who live in suburbia were minorities. In your
bigoted mind, that could not be true. To validate your premise you said

" I recently attended a business function at a new, golf course community in
the Cascade foothills- about 20-25 miles from downtown Seattle. This place
is brand new. They are going to hold a PGA tournament there in 2005 or 2006.
The houses are all painted various shades of beige, all have the same
roofing, the same windows, etc. Two or three new sections are still under
construction, and all the $1mm plus houses are painted various shades of
beige. While I didn't go door to door and do a survey, I did see some
diversity while I was there... a number of minorities worked for the
catering company- (but I'll bet you a buck they weren't living in the
immediate community)." didn't go door to door and do a survey, I
did see some diversity while I was there... a number of minorities worked
for the catering company- (but I'll bet you a buck they weren't living in
the immediate community)."

Why do you believe minorities could not (or would not) live in million
dollar community?
Why would you comment about minorities who worked at the clubhouse, to
reinforce your premise that suburbia is lily white?
Why would you use a million dollar community as being representative of
suburbia?

Someone who is bigoted against blacks would use a similar argument.
" I recently attended a business function downtown. Since I normally don't
go downtown (the place is overrun by blacks) I took a wrong turn and ended
up in the ghetto. The place was falling apart, with drug dealers on every
corner. Trash littered the streets and their yards. Their houses were
falling apart. These people may not be able to afford a more expensive home,
but why do they have to live like pigs? I did see a few white people, but I
would bet you a buck they didn't live in that neighborhood. If black
people are our equal, why do they live in such filth? While I didn't go
door to door and do a survey, my guess is that every household had a family
member who is in prison. "

Your comments were bigoted, and I told you so. I find your comments to be
just as repulsive as those who believe minorities are inferior. I also
believe the minorities who live in suburbia would find your comments to
offensive.

Your response was to ignore our contrasting ideas and perspectives and
decided to start pitching dirty little insult turds




"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
It looks like you realize you have lost the debate and now are resorting
to
personal insults concerning my sentence structure and syntax.

No dice, Doc. When you introduce the concept "Gould is an asshole....." to
a
discussion you have broached a subject
over which there is little or any debate. Gould is an asshole. Operational
difference between Gould and some of the rest of the assholes here 'bouts
is
that he isn't a non-boating asshole trolling through rec.boats for
purposes of
picking fights with one specific poster and then expanding the mission to
include anybody who might seem slightly philosophically aligned with the
initial target.

Gould, this
is not the New Yorker. This is Usenet and it is common for people to jot
off quick retorts and they will make typos and/or grammatical errors.

It's more common for some than for others.

Sloppy grammar is a sign of intellectual sloth, at best, and wears
awkwardly on
those who presume to criticize others for their deductive reasoning
processes
and conclusions.

The fact still stands that you are extremely bigoted against those who
have
different beliefs or values.

Naw, just against other assholes like myself. Maybe a little moreso
against
intellectual weaklings who run out of ammo somewhere around the second
volley
and start pitching dirty little insult turds ( an emotional payoff
practice
suspected more frequently now to be the only reason they appeared to
engage in
debate in the first place) rather than comparing and contrasting ideas and
perspectives.

On 12 Nov 2004 07:11:07 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

Down With Fancy Book Learnin'

Rest snipped.

The election is over. We have been trying to get the group back on topic and
cool down the animosity between the sides.

Have a nice day.



Regards
John S

I would rather be boating!

Would your comments qualify as "dirty little insult turds".

I was highlighting the differences between our contrasting ideas and
perspectives, you prefer to use personal insults instead of debating our
different perspectives. My comment about you being a bigot was not an
insult, it was an observation that your comments and beliefs are bigoted.


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Your bigotry extends beyond beliefs and values. It extends to where
someone

How funny. A supposedly grown man who selects the "send" function, and
then has
to jump back in with a fresh post because he realizes there is still some
venom
left in the sac. :-)

Grade yourself an A for this one. You
exceed all previous expectations.

I was highlighting the differences between our contrasting ideas and
perspectives, you prefer to use personal insults instead of debating our
different perspectives. My comment about you being a bigot was not an
insult, it was an observation that your comments and beliefs are bigoted.

Just as the comment that set you off, (that you couldn't understand my point
because you were choosing not to), was an observation, not an insult.

I'll have to remember the rules he

1. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever runs a side thread with one of his high fivers making
negative comments about Gould, those aren't insults, they are "observations".

2. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever calls Gould a bigot or any other derogatory name,
that is not an insult, it's an observation.

3. Any comment of any type made by Gould will be considered an insult for
purposes of seeking any excuse to diverit a thread into a series of personal
comments under the "But, Mommy, *he* started it!" treaty provision.

Once we have the rules defined, it becomes easier to anticipate your now very
predictable MO. I "observe" that your goal in a discussion is to drag it down
to a
level of insult exchange at the first opportunity. Too bad, really, as you
often seem a bit brighter than some folks who hang around only to fire off
insults.

(Watch those same bright folks take offense at that last sentence.) :-)

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
I was highlighting the differences between our contrasting ideas and
perspectives, you prefer to use personal insults instead of debating our
different perspectives. My comment about you being a bigot was not an
insult, it was an observation that your comments and beliefs are bigoted.

Just as the comment that set you off, (that you couldn't understand my
point
because you were choosing not to), was an observation, not an insult.

I'll have to remember the rules he

1. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever runs a side thread with one of his high fivers
making
negative comments about Gould, those aren't insults, they are
"observations".

2. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever calls Gould a bigot or any other derogatory
name,
that is not an insult, it's an observation.

3. Any comment of any type made by Gould will be considered an insult for
purposes of seeking any excuse to diverit a thread into a series of
personal
comments under the "But, Mommy, *he* started it!" treaty provision.

Once we have the rules defined, it becomes easier to anticipate your now
very
predictable MO. I "observe" that your goal in a discussion is to drag it
down
to a
level of insult exchange at the first opportunity. Too bad, really, as you
often seem a bit brighter than some folks who hang around only to fire off
insults.

(Watch those same bright folks take offense at that last sentence.) :-)

Gould, you have become a sniveling crybaby who can throw it out but not take
it. It is never you who starts anything....always the other guy. Grow up.

Exactly, and providing a description is not a racial slur.

Do you describe your white neighbors as white? Honest answer, please.....

(Watch those same bright folks take offense at that last sentence.) :-)

Gould, you have become a sniveling crybaby who can throw it out but not take
it. It is never you who starts anything....always the other guy. Grow up.


Is it still legal to shoot fish in a barrel?

Why do you believe minorities could not (or would not) live in million
dollar community?

I said that the only minorities I observed were *working for the catering
company*, and I'd be willing to bet they didn't live in the community. Do lower
tier restaurant and catering company workers routinely buy seven-figure homes
where you live?
If so, your minimum wage must be about
$100 an hour.


Why would you use a million dollar community as being representative of
suburbia?

Having a $1mm home in the Pac NW makes you upper middle class. Common as BMW,
Lexus and Hummer automobiles. The newly built suburban developments in
locations within about 15 or 20 miles of downtown Seattle are commonly priced
in that category. What should I use instead? A tract of rickety-tick Section 8
apartments?

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
(Watch those same bright folks take offense at that last sentence.) :-)

Gould, you have become a sniveling crybaby who can throw it out but not
take
it. It is never you who starts anything....always the other guy. Grow
up.


Is it still legal to shoot fish in a barrel?

Perhaps, but only when you don't snip your entire message when posting my
response to it.

As you well know I was in fact responding to these comments of yours that
you conveniently left off your reply:
-------------------
1. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever runs a side thread with one of his high fivers
making
negative comments about Gould, those aren't insults, they are
"observations".

2. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever calls Gould a bigot or any other derogatory name,
that is not an insult, it's an observation.

3. Any comment of any type made by Gould will be considered an insult for
purposes of seeking any excuse to diverit a thread into a series of personal
comments under the "But, Mommy, *he* started it!" treaty provision.

Once we have the rules defined, it becomes easier to anticipate your now
very
predictable MO. I "observe" that your goal in a discussion is to drag it
down
to a
level of insult exchange at the first opportunity.
------------------------------------
Perhaps I should start adding some all encompassing closing lines to my
posts as you seem to be doing lately. That way I can conveniently deflect
any incoming criticism as you most often seem to do. However, as I am a man
willing to stand behind what I write I will leave that MO to you.

Have a nice day Chuck.

Gould 0738 wrote:
I was highlighting the differences between our contrasting ideas and
perspectives, you prefer to use personal insults instead of debating our
different perspectives. My comment about you being a bigot was not an
insult, it was an observation that your comments and beliefs are bigoted.

Just as the comment that set you off, (that you couldn't understand my point
because you were choosing not to), was an observation, not an insult.

I'll have to remember the rules he

1. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever runs a side thread with one of his high fivers making
negative comments about Gould, those aren't insults, they are "observations".

2. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever calls Gould a bigot or any other derogatory name,
that is not an insult, it's an observation.


As smart as you are, Gould, you still have not figured out that Taco
Breath and his high fivers are no more valuable than intestinal gas in a
space suit.

Gould 0738 wrote:
(Watch those same bright folks take offense at that last sentence.) :-)

Gould, you have become a sniveling crybaby who can throw it out but not take
it. It is never you who starts anything....always the other guy. Grow up.


Is it still legal to shoot fish in a barrel?


Why stink up the barrel with these boatless trashfish?

Gould,

Do you disagree that your comment concerning the lily white suburbs would
not be considered bigoted based upon the definition of bigoted found in any
dictionary?

In one broad brush you made a judgment call concerning everyone who lives
outside the city limits. I am sure the minorities who live in the suburbs
would be insulted.

This is not my opinion, it is the definition of the word "bigoted" as
defined by any dictionary.

If I had made a bigoted statement concerning all (insert group here), I
would hope someone would slap me upside the head. I was hoping you would
realize you had made an extremely bigoted comment and retract it. Instead,
you take the stand I just refuse to understand your point.

I did not find your comments about me not understanding your point to be
offensive, I found your negative statements concerning anyone who lives in
the suburbs to be offensive and bigoted. When I pointed this out to you,
you decided it was time to discuss "assholes" and "turds".

You tell me who is diverting the conversation from a discussion of ideas
into name calling.




"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
I was highlighting the differences between our contrasting ideas and
perspectives, you prefer to use personal insults instead of debating our
different perspectives. My comment about you being a bigot was not an
insult, it was an observation that your comments and beliefs are bigoted.

Just as the comment that set you off, (that you couldn't understand my
point
because you were choosing not to), was an observation, not an insult.

I'll have to remember the rules he

1. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever runs a side thread with one of his high fivers
making
negative comments about Gould, those aren't insults, they are
"observations".

2. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever calls Gould a bigot or any other derogatory
name,
that is not an insult, it's an observation.

3. Any comment of any type made by Gould will be considered an insult for
purposes of seeking any excuse to diverit a thread into a series of
personal
comments under the "But, Mommy, *he* started it!" treaty provision.

Once we have the rules defined, it becomes easier to anticipate your now
very
predictable MO. I "observe" that your goal in a discussion is to drag it
down
to a
level of insult exchange at the first opportunity. Too bad, really, as you
often seem a bit brighter than some folks who hang around only to fire off
insults.

(Watch those same bright folks take offense at that last sentence.) :-)

Gould,
I don't think you even understand the point you were trying to make. What
was the point you were trying to make concerning the people working in the
restaurant? What was your point you were trying to make in that post?

In the PNW $1,000,000 homes might be considered upper middle class, in the
rest of the US anyone owning a million dollar home would be in the top 1%.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Why do you believe minorities could not (or would not) live in million
dollar community?

I said that the only minorities I observed were *working for the catering
company*, and I'd be willing to bet they didn't live in the community. Do
lower
tier restaurant and catering company workers routinely buy seven-figure
homes
where you live?
If so, your minimum wage must be about
$100 an hour.


Why would you use a million dollar community as being representative of
suburbia?

Having a $1mm home in the Pac NW makes you upper middle class. Common as
BMW,
Lexus and Hummer automobiles. The newly built suburban developments in
locations within about 15 or 20 miles of downtown Seattle are commonly
priced
in that category. What should I use instead? A tract of rickety-tick
Section 8
apartments?

On 13 Nov 2004 17:50:18 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Exactly, and providing a description is not a racial slur.

Do you describe your white neighbors as white? Honest answer, please.....

If someone were to ask me, "What color are your neighbors?" I would
give them their country of origin. No, I don't describe my neighbors
as 'white'.

[Note: Is my first sentence punctuated correctly?]

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 13 Nov 2004 17:50:18 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Exactly, and providing a description is not a racial slur.

Do you describe your white neighbors as white? Honest answer, please.....

If someone were to ask me, "What color are your neighbors?" I would
give them their country of origin. No, I don't describe my neighbors
as 'white'.

[Note: Is my first sentence punctuated correctly?]

John H


I would ask them why that was important to them or anyone.

On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:23:18 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On 13 Nov 2004 17:50:18 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Exactly, and providing a description is not a racial slur.

Do you describe your white neighbors as white? Honest answer, please.....

If someone were to ask me, "What color are your neighbors?" I would
give them their country of origin. No, I don't describe my neighbors
as 'white'.

[Note: Is my first sentence punctuated correctly?]

John H


I would ask them why that was important to them or anyone.


Well, I suppose I was giving Chuck the benefit of the doubt. I'm
assuming it's just a legitimate question and not another attempt to
show how 'racist' I am.

I suppose they call Bill Cosby a *real* racist!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote in message news:ne9ld.499302$mD.352160@attbi_s02...
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"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote in message
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JimH,
You do realize that this was Harry's favorite method of posting in
rec.boats, it will take basskisser a few months to realize that Harry is
no
longer cut and pasting news articles. As soon as he realizes his master
has
moved on to new things, Basskisser will move on to whatever Harry is
doing.


As well as Fritz's, but you seem to condone it from him just fine, huh?


Can you show me one post where I condoned anything Fritz has done?

You kiss his ass constantly!!!!

"basskisser" wrote in message
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m...
"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote in message
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JimH,
You do realize that this was Harry's favorite method of posting in
rec.boats, it will take basskisser a few months to realize that Harry
is
no
longer cut and pasting news articles. As soon as he realizes his
master
has
moved on to new things, Basskisser will move on to whatever Harry is
doing.


As well as Fritz's, but you seem to condone it from him just fine, huh?


Can you show me one post where I condoned anything Fritz has done?

You kiss his ass constantly!!!!

Can you provide some proof of this wild accusation?

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote in message
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"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote in message
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JimH,
You do realize that this was Harry's favorite method of posting in
rec.boats, it will take basskisser a few months to realize that Harry
is
no
longer cut and pasting news articles. As soon as he realizes his
master
has
moved on to new things, Basskisser will move on to whatever Harry is
doing.


As well as Fritz's, but you seem to condone it from him just fine,
huh?


Can you show me one post where I condoned anything Fritz has done?

You kiss his ass constantly!!!!

Can you provide some proof of this wild accusation?

Poor asslicker....still maintaining that death grip on the title of 'King of
the NG idiots'

basskisser wrote:
"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote in message news:ne9ld.499302$mD.352160@attbi_s02...
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m...
"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote in message
news:ML4ld.329980$wV.329077@attbi_s54...
JimH,
You do realize that this was Harry's favorite method of posting in
rec.boats, it will take basskisser a few months to realize that Harry is
no
longer cut and pasting news articles. As soon as he realizes his master
has
moved on to new things, Basskisser will move on to whatever Harry is
doing.


As well as Fritz's, but you seem to condone it from him just fine, huh?


Can you show me one post where I condoned anything Fritz has done?

You kiss his ass constantly!!!!


Why do you bother with either of them, Bass? Neither is anything more
than a boil on the other's ass. Just dumpster them, and all they'll have
left is each other, Hertvig and Herring.