JimH wrote:
My thanks to all you Veterans out there for your service to our Country.

Thank you!

You're welcome. And I add my salute to all those Amricans of every
generation who made a sacrifice for our country, especially the men &
women currently serving overseas and far from their families.

Douglas King, ex-BT1(SW)

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:28:40 -0500, DSK wrote:

BT1(SW)

I know that is Navy speak, Doug, but what is a BT1(SW)?

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I know that is Navy speak, Doug, but what is a BT1(SW)?

It's a rate (in other words the job or work area, what the Army calls
MOS I believe) and rank. I was a boiler tender, in other words a ship
propulsion engineer, Petty Officer First Class (E-5), and a surface
warfare specialist.

Rather meaningless gobbledygook except to others who once lived in the
same neighborhood

One of the exercise anybody can do is to learn to read military
insignia, especially ribbons. You can read someone's career at a glance
if you learn a few dozen, and easily seperate the desktop warriors from
the guys who are the real deal. Plus it's kind of interesting IMHO.

DSK

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 06:47:39 -0500, DSK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I know that is Navy speak, Doug, but what is a BT1(SW)?

It's a rate (in other words the job or work area, what the Army calls
MOS I believe) and rank. I was a boiler tender, in other words a ship
propulsion engineer, Petty Officer First Class (E-5), and a surface
warfare specialist.

Kewl. I was always baffled by the Navy designations for enlisted.
Never spent any time ship board (except for the occasional training
float).

Rather meaningless gobbledygook except to others who once lived in the
same neighborhood

Hey, I was a plain old rifleman - nothing fancy about that. :)

One of the exercise anybody can do is to learn to read military
insignia, especially ribbons. You can read someone's career at a glance
if you learn a few dozen, and easily seperate the desktop warriors from
the guys who are the real deal. Plus it's kind of interesting IMHO.

Heh. Yep.

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I know that is Navy speak, Doug, but what is a BT1(SW)?

It's a rate (in other words the job or work area, what the Army calls
MOS I believe) and rank. I was a boiler tender, in other words a ship
propulsion engineer, Petty Officer First Class (E-5), and a surface
warfare specialist.



Like the rest of us, Doug is a little fuzzy in the memories. :-)
A Petty Officer First Class is an E-6. A second class petty officer is
an E-5.

Eisboch

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:48:59 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:



Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I know that is Navy speak, Doug, but what is a BT1(SW)?

It's a rate (in other words the job or work area, what the Army calls
MOS I believe) and rank. I was a boiler tender, in other words a ship
propulsion engineer, Petty Officer First Class (E-5), and a surface
warfare specialist.



Like the rest of us, Doug is a little fuzzy in the memories. :-)
A Petty Officer First Class is an E-6. A second class petty officer is
an E-5.

Eisboch

Couldn't the Navy have come up with a better adjective than 'petty'?
That sounds so...petty.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:14:17 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:48:59 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:



Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I know that is Navy speak, Doug, but what is a BT1(SW)?

It's a rate (in other words the job or work area, what the Army calls
MOS I believe) and rank. I was a boiler tender, in other words a ship
propulsion engineer, Petty Officer First Class (E-5), and a surface
warfare specialist.

Like the rest of us, Doug is a little fuzzy in the memories. :-)
A Petty Officer First Class is an E-6. A second class petty officer is
an E-5.

Couldn't the Navy have come up with a better adjective than 'petty'?
That sounds so...petty.

I stopped bitching about the Navy when a Corpsman literally saved my
life.

Now the Army, that's a who different story. :)

Later,

Tom

Eisboch wrote:
Like the rest of us, Doug is a little fuzzy in the memories. :-)
A Petty Officer First Class is an E-6. A second class petty officer is
an E-5.

Oops! You're right. Sorry... guess I need to go back, take a look at my
old uniform and play the stripe game...

BTW I don't mean to pry but am curious what your son does on the Truman.
I've been on carriers a few times, it's easy to get lost. Have you ever
visited him on board? That used to be quite common but maybe they
restrict things a bit more nowadays.

Regards
Doug King

DSK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

Like the rest of us, Doug is a little fuzzy in the memories. :-)
A Petty Officer First Class is an E-6. A second class petty officer
is an E-5.


Oops! You're right. Sorry... guess I need to go back, take a look at my
old uniform and play the stripe game...

BTW I don't mean to pry but am curious what your son does on the Truman.
I've been on carriers a few times, it's easy to get lost. Have you ever
visited him on board? That used to be quite common but maybe they
restrict things a bit more nowadays.

Regards
Doug King


No, I haven't been on board yet. They do allow it, but only in limited
areas. As to what he does, I'd rather not say, mainly because I am not
100 percent sure. I know he is attached to an air squadron that flies
mini versions of an AWAC type airplane.

Eisboch

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:15:50 -0500, DSK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
Like the rest of us, Doug is a little fuzzy in the memories. :-)
A Petty Officer First Class is an E-6. A second class petty officer is
an E-5.

Oops! You're right. Sorry... guess I need to go back, take a look at my
old uniform and play the stripe game...

BTW I don't mean to pry but am curious what your son does on the Truman.
I've been on carriers a few times, it's easy to get lost. Have you ever
visited him on board? That used to be quite common but maybe they
restrict things a bit more nowadays.

Maybe I've told this before, but I've actually landed on one. My
oldest boy is a Marine fighter jockey and arranged it with one of this
Navy buddies. He and I came aboard on a COD - it was a thrilling ride
out from shore to the carrier. The pilot let me sit in the observer
jump seat so I could see out the windscreen.

We went back on a helo. I really wanted to launch, but it was a fun
trip anyway.

Later,

Tom