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Calif Bill November 12th 04 05:34 AM


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:00:34 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:55:15 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:18:11 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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You're quite welcome! I appreciate the thought. Today at school I
received a card signed by a bunch of students. The thought meant a
lot.

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Your schools are open on Remembrance Day? Here it's a holiday. Even
Walmart and Costco are closed.

Yup, Fairfax County, VA, has school on Veterans' Day. We used to wear
our uniforms on that day. The kids liked it. Now most of us can't get
into our uniforms. Saw one retired Marine wearing his. Marines just
don't gain weight, I guess!


You would guess wrong. :)

Later,

Tom


That was a big lift to my self-esteem. Thanks!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I do not think my Air Force uniform fits. Darn shrinkage.



Short Wave Sportfishing November 12th 04 11:37 AM

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:28:40 -0500, DSK wrote:

BT1(SW)


I know that is Navy speak, Doug, but what is a BT1(SW)?

Later,

Tom


DSK November 12th 04 11:47 AM

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I know that is Navy speak, Doug, but what is a BT1(SW)?


It's a rate (in other words the job or work area, what the Army calls
MOS I believe) and rank. I was a boiler tender, in other words a ship
propulsion engineer, Petty Officer First Class (E-5), and a surface
warfare specialist.

Rather meaningless gobbledygook except to others who once lived in the
same neighborhood ;)

One of the exercise anybody can do is to learn to read military
insignia, especially ribbons. You can read someone's career at a glance
if you learn a few dozen, and easily seperate the desktop warriors from
the guys who are the real deal. Plus it's kind of interesting IMHO.

DSK


Short Wave Sportfishing November 12th 04 12:33 PM

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 06:47:39 -0500, DSK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I know that is Navy speak, Doug, but what is a BT1(SW)?


It's a rate (in other words the job or work area, what the Army calls
MOS I believe) and rank. I was a boiler tender, in other words a ship
propulsion engineer, Petty Officer First Class (E-5), and a surface
warfare specialist.


Kewl. I was always baffled by the Navy designations for enlisted.
Never spent any time ship board (except for the occasional training
float).

Rather meaningless gobbledygook except to others who once lived in the
same neighborhood ;)


Hey, I was a plain old rifleman - nothing fancy about that. :)

One of the exercise anybody can do is to learn to read military
insignia, especially ribbons. You can read someone's career at a glance
if you learn a few dozen, and easily seperate the desktop warriors from
the guys who are the real deal. Plus it's kind of interesting IMHO.


Heh. Yep.

Later,

Tom

Eisboch November 12th 04 12:48 PM



Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I know that is Navy speak, Doug, but what is a BT1(SW)?


It's a rate (in other words the job or work area, what the Army calls
MOS I believe) and rank. I was a boiler tender, in other words a ship
propulsion engineer, Petty Officer First Class (E-5), and a surface
warfare specialist.




Like the rest of us, Doug is a little fuzzy in the memories. :-)
A Petty Officer First Class is an E-6. A second class petty officer is
an E-5.

Eisboch

JohnH November 12th 04 03:14 PM

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:48:59 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:



Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I know that is Navy speak, Doug, but what is a BT1(SW)?

It's a rate (in other words the job or work area, what the Army calls
MOS I believe) and rank. I was a boiler tender, in other words a ship
propulsion engineer, Petty Officer First Class (E-5), and a surface
warfare specialist.




Like the rest of us, Doug is a little fuzzy in the memories. :-)
A Petty Officer First Class is an E-6. A second class petty officer is
an E-5.

Eisboch


Couldn't the Navy have come up with a better adjective than 'petty'?
That sounds so...petty.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Dave Hall November 12th 04 03:58 PM

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:57:28 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

My thanks to all you Veterans out there for your service to our Country.

Thank you!


I second that. Despite the various factions who have in the past, and
still in the present, attempt to denigrate their service, l hold that
this country would not be what it is today without the sacrifice of
those who did what was right.

Dave


Short Wave Sportfishing November 12th 04 04:30 PM

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:14:17 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:48:59 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:



Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I know that is Navy speak, Doug, but what is a BT1(SW)?

It's a rate (in other words the job or work area, what the Army calls
MOS I believe) and rank. I was a boiler tender, in other words a ship
propulsion engineer, Petty Officer First Class (E-5), and a surface
warfare specialist.


Like the rest of us, Doug is a little fuzzy in the memories. :-)
A Petty Officer First Class is an E-6. A second class petty officer is
an E-5.


Couldn't the Navy have come up with a better adjective than 'petty'?
That sounds so...petty.


I stopped bitching about the Navy when a Corpsman literally saved my
life.

Now the Army, that's a who different story. :)

Later,

Tom

DSK November 12th 04 07:15 PM

Eisboch wrote:
Like the rest of us, Doug is a little fuzzy in the memories. :-)
A Petty Officer First Class is an E-6. A second class petty officer is
an E-5.


Oops! You're right. Sorry... guess I need to go back, take a look at my
old uniform and play the stripe game...

BTW I don't mean to pry but am curious what your son does on the Truman.
I've been on carriers a few times, it's easy to get lost. Have you ever
visited him on board? That used to be quite common but maybe they
restrict things a bit more nowadays.

Regards
Doug King


Eisboch November 12th 04 07:38 PM

DSK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

Like the rest of us, Doug is a little fuzzy in the memories. :-)
A Petty Officer First Class is an E-6. A second class petty officer
is an E-5.



Oops! You're right. Sorry... guess I need to go back, take a look at my
old uniform and play the stripe game...

BTW I don't mean to pry but am curious what your son does on the Truman.
I've been on carriers a few times, it's easy to get lost. Have you ever
visited him on board? That used to be quite common but maybe they
restrict things a bit more nowadays.

Regards
Doug King


No, I haven't been on board yet. They do allow it, but only in limited
areas. As to what he does, I'd rather not say, mainly because I am not
100 percent sure. I know he is attached to an air squadron that flies
mini versions of an AWAC type airplane.

Eisboch


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