On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 00:59:13 GMT, bb wrote:

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 19:49:10 -0500, John S wrote:

Cold water is really, really cold!

I think you've stumbled upon something that quite possibly we can all
agree on.

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No, it's colder than that. When I was a teenager I capsized in Lake
Ontario about 3 weeks after the ice had gone out in the spring.
Fortunately I hadn't gotten too far. It took almost a minute before I
could take anything close to a full breath of air. After the 10 or 15
minutes it took me to get out, I could barely walk. It took over 2
hours in a warm room before I stopped shivering.

It's not an experiment that I'd care to repeat at age 59+.