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"Keenan Wellar" wrote in message ... "Michael Daly" wrote in message ... On 30-Nov-2004, Keenan Wellar wrote: in article et, rick etter at wrote on 11/30/04 5:26 PM: Japan invaded mostly on the basis of *US* actions in the Pacific. Actions that are taken by agressors, not neutrals. That's interesting logic. Are you saying that any nation that is attacked by another nation was at war with them prior to the attack? Actually, on this point he's right. The US had embargoed oil and other trade with Japan as the latter was at war in China, Korea etc (since '37... and the US was a major oil exporter in those days). They also moved the Pacific Fleet to Pearl Harbor and upgraded their bases in the Philippines. Japan wanted to secure oil supplies in Indonesia and the US had been beating the war drum about protecting the Pacific. To the Japanese, it looked like direct threats and the embargo was interpreted as a war-like action. Hence the attacks on Pearl Harbour and Clarke. Yes, I fully understand and have prior knowledge of these pre-war circumstances. ======================= No you don't. You prove that with your ignotrant posts. I am disputing the notion that when one nation attacks another nation with force, the nation that has been attacked is thereby deemed to have already been at war, simply because they were attacked. ======================== Nice strawman fool, but that wasn't what I stated, nor was it the case. Again, go back to your own stupid anaology about NZ and Canada. If Canada had taken no actions that interfered with NZ prior to the invasion, then Canada was not at war before the attack. I know that the 2 braincells you have left have a hard time wrapping themselves around any real thought process, so I'll just leave you to stew in your stupidity. Someone in one of these threads recently suggested that in the future, America would be justified in engaging in war in the Middle East to defend their sources of oil. Sounds like they support the idea that lead to the Japanese attacking the US in WWII. Wrong then but right today. Interesting how attitudes depend on which side of the fence you're on. Mike Intreresting, and also a bit scary. |
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