On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:26:39 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:45:00 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:28:25 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 06:12:48 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:



Quality of life issues typically include lifespan, infant mortality
rate, death in childbirth, availability of decent health care, rate of
homelessness, freedom to worship or not, lack of war, availability of
opportunities, quality of housing, amount of free (non-work) time,
quality of diet, availability of continuing education...those kinds of
things. Most of Europe is doing better on the quality of life issues
than we are.

I had a very good friend and work associate (he unfortunately passed
away a couple of years ago at 50). He and his wife were/are well
educated; he held several degrees including a Phd. in physics. They
were/are well traveled throughout the world and were/are extremely
liberal in their thinking and politics (he more so than his wife). They
both chose and came to the States on permanent work visas and would
disagree with many of your assertions. Although she still owns property
in her native Germany, she has chosen to stay here, primarily for the
quality of life.

They're not my assertions, and most are statistically based.

And most are meaningless if your freedom of choice is curtailed. Which
is why so many people WANT to come here.

Freedom of choice is a big factor in the quality of life. It tends to
cancel out many of the other issues.

Aren't you against choice?

Choice. What choice do any of us really have. Don't the vagaries of
fate predetermine the path we all follow? Aren't we all just dust on
the wind? Smoke on the water? Nowhere men? Climbing every mountain
somewhere over the rainbow singing in the rain as we're off to see the
Wizard?

Were you a mass media major in college? ;-) There's at least 3 songs
and three different musicals in there somewhere......

General engineering major, minor in mathematics which eventually
became a totally useless PhD appendage.

Later,

Tom