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Who voted for Bush v Kerry
http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm
What a smuck, Harry gets fooled again. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... State Average IQ/ Carried in 2004 by Tested Residents 1 Connecticut 113 Kerry 2 Massachusetts 111 Kerry 3 New Jersey 111 Kerry 4 New York 109 Kerry 5 Rhode Island 107 Kerry 6 Hawaii 106 Kerry 7 Maryland 105 Kerry 8 New Hampshire 105 Kerry 9 Illinois 104 Kerry 10 Delaware 103 Kerry 11 Minnesota 102 Kerry 12 Vermont 102 Kerry 13 Washington 102 Kerry 14 California 101 Kerry 15 Pennsylvania 101 Kerry 16 Maine 100 Kerry 17 Virginia 100 Bush 18 Wisconsin 100 Kerry 19 Colorado 99 Bush 20 Iowa 99 Bush 21 Michigan 99 Kerry 22 Nevada 99 Bush 23 Ohio 99 Bush 24 Oregon 99 Kerry 25 Alaska 98 Bush 26 Florida 98 Bush 27 Missouri 98 Bush 28 Kansas 96 Bush 29 Nebraska 95 Bush 30 Arizona 94 Bush 31 Indiana 94 Bush 32 Tennessee 94 Bush 33 North Carolina 93 Bush 34 West Virginia 93 Bush 35 Arkansas 92 Bush 36 Georgia 92 Bush 37 Kentucky 92 Bush 38 New Mexico 92 Bush 39 North Dakota 92 Bush 40 Texas 92 Bush 41 Alabama 90 Bush 42 Louisiana 90 Bush 43 Montana 90 Bush 44 Oklahoma 90 Bush 45 South Dakota 90 Bush 46 South Carolina 89 Bush 47 Wyoming 89 Bush 48 Idaho 87 Bush 49 Utah 87 Bush 50 Mississippi 85 Bush The IQ numbers were originally attributed to the book "IQ and the Wealth of Nations", though they do not appear in the current edition. The tests and data were administered via the Raven's APT, and the The Test Agency, one of the UK's leading publishers and distributors of psychometric tests. This data has been published in the Economist and the St. Petersburg Times. Though the data does correlate somewhat to IQ of students per state based on SAT/ACT data, these results would be biased towards those who had completed a high school education. Someone has also taken 2000 census data on percentage of state residents who have earned a college degree and used that to compare the voting in the 2000 election, it's funny, but that seems to correlate as well. -- George W. Bush...Armed, Dangerous, and Stupid... Just What the Terrorists Want & America Deserves |
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:57:58 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote:
http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm What a smuck, Harry gets fooled again. What I think Harry meant was that those with the highest IQ's in each of the States voted for Bush. Otherwise, the post meant absolutely nothing. You're right, he is a smuck! |
Not only that, but it is an old urban legend that no one with any
intelligence believed the first time around. The only thing is names were changed from Gore and Bush to Kerry and Bush. "John S" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:57:58 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm What a smuck, Harry gets fooled again. What I think Harry meant was that those with the highest IQ's in each of the States voted for Bush. Otherwise, the post meant absolutely nothing. You're right, he is a smuck! |
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:22:25 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote:
Not only that, but it is an old urban legend that no one with any intelligence believed the first time around. The only thing is names were changed from Gore and Bush to Kerry and Bush. "John S" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:57:58 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm What a smuck, Harry gets fooled again. What I think Harry meant was that those with the highest IQ's in each of the States voted for Bush. Otherwise, the post meant absolutely nothing. You're right, he is a smuck! Harry isn't scoring any points for intelligent posts today. But I did love the dog biting off a finger story. That should make it into the internet Myth Hall of Fame. |
Harry always believes if he gives enough detail in the stories, ( ie dogs
name, what color his collar is, did the kids like to crawl up on his back etc) that his unbelievable stories will become real. Sometimes I think he might actually be the only one who believes them. "John S" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:22:25 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: Not only that, but it is an old urban legend that no one with any intelligence believed the first time around. The only thing is names were changed from Gore and Bush to Kerry and Bush. "John S" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:57:58 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm What a smuck, Harry gets fooled again. What I think Harry meant was that those with the highest IQ's in each of the States voted for Bush. Otherwise, the post meant absolutely nothing. You're right, he is a smuck! Harry isn't scoring any points for intelligent posts today. But I did love the dog biting off a finger story. That should make it into the internet Myth Hall of Fame. |
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:47:38 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers"
wrote: Harry always believes if he gives enough detail in the stories, ( ie dogs name, what color his collar is, did the kids like to crawl up on his back etc) that his unbelievable stories will become real. Sometimes I think he might actually be the only one who believes them. I had never heard the story before and it certainly was believable to me. Later, Tom |
A dog has Canines (fangs on either side) for grabbing and puncturing,
incisors (small teeth in front) for nibbling, premolars for tearing, and molars for crushing bone" If you notice how a dog will chew on a bone, he will pull the meat off with his front teeth and then carefully move the bone back to the rear of his mouth. A dog biting you will grab a hold and shake, it will cause tearing of the flesh, puncture marks etc.but he is not going to bite anyone's thumb off. It just will not happen. The fact that you did not hear the old story or did not understand why the story could not happen is what Harry was hoping for. What I can not figure out, is why anyone would go to all the trouble to fabricate such a silly story. "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:47:38 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: Harry always believes if he gives enough detail in the stories, ( ie dogs name, what color his collar is, did the kids like to crawl up on his back etc) that his unbelievable stories will become real. Sometimes I think he might actually be the only one who believes them. I had never heard the story before and it certainly was believable to me. Later, Tom |
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:47:38 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers"
wrote: Harry always believes if he gives enough detail in the stories, ( ie dogs name, what color his collar is, did the kids like to crawl up on his back etc) that his unbelievable stories will become real. Sometimes I think he might actually be the only one who believes them. "John S" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:22:25 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: Not only that, but it is an old urban legend that no one with any intelligence believed the first time around. The only thing is names were changed from Gore and Bush to Kerry and Bush. "John S" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:57:58 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm What a smuck, Harry gets fooled again. What I think Harry meant was that those with the highest IQ's in each of the States voted for Bush. Otherwise, the post meant absolutely nothing. You're right, he is a smuck! Harry isn't scoring any points for intelligent posts today. But I did love the dog biting off a finger story. That should make it into the internet Myth Hall of Fame. All this praise for Harry's latest story is making me want to unfilter him again. Would it be worth it? John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:37:21 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers"
wrote: A dog has Canines (fangs on either side) for grabbing and puncturing, incisors (small teeth in front) for nibbling, premolars for tearing, and molars for crushing bone" If you notice how a dog will chew on a bone, he will pull the meat off with his front teeth and then carefully move the bone back to the rear of his mouth. A dog biting you will grab a hold and shake, it will cause tearing of the flesh, puncture marks etc.but he is not going to bite anyone's thumb off. It just will not happen. Um.....No? Canines can tear off digits if they attack straight on and pull. Their front incisors are perfectly capable of performing that function in particular if it occurs at or near a joint. I've had a Rottie dislocate a shoulder in a training scenario - I could easily see a digit being lost that way. I'm too lazy to perform a Google search, but it seems that I remember a case in MA about a mastiff taking off some fingers from a child. The fact that you did not hear the old story or did not understand why the story could not happen is what Harry was hoping for. What I can not figure out, is why anyone would go to all the trouble to fabricate such a silly story. Based on a life time's experience with dogs of all types including large breed guard/attack dogs, I could put some credence to the story even if I had never actually seen it happen myself. It's not totally outside the probability curve. If Harry swiped the story from somewhere, I'm sure he will own up to it at some point. Harry may be a lot of things, but I don't perceive him as being dishonorable. Later, Tom "Beware the one legged man in a butt kicking contest - he is there for a reason." Wun Hung Lo - date unknown |
JohnJ,
All you have to do is read the responses to Harry's posts. If you keep him filtered the only thing you miss is when he makes a snide comment about your military background or the fact that you are a substitute teacher. If I were you, I would keep him filtered, you will see the posts where he makes a fool out of himself. "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:47:38 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: Harry always believes if he gives enough detail in the stories, ( ie dogs name, what color his collar is, did the kids like to crawl up on his back etc) that his unbelievable stories will become real. Sometimes I think he might actually be the only one who believes them. "John S" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:22:25 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: Not only that, but it is an old urban legend that no one with any intelligence believed the first time around. The only thing is names were changed from Gore and Bush to Kerry and Bush. "John S" wrote in message m... On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:57:58 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm What a smuck, Harry gets fooled again. What I think Harry meant was that those with the highest IQ's in each of the States voted for Bush. Otherwise, the post meant absolutely nothing. You're right, he is a smuck! Harry isn't scoring any points for intelligent posts today. But I did love the dog biting off a finger story. That should make it into the internet Myth Hall of Fame. All this praise for Harry's latest story is making me want to unfilter him again. Would it be worth it? John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
If you want to see the real IQ by state go to:
http://www.sq.4mg.com/stateIQ-income.htm Generally substantiates the "hoax" post! The top four on the "real" site are blue states in 2004. Eight of the top ten on the "real' site are blue states. Ten of the top sixteen are blue states. Only three blue states in the "bottom 15". Thanks for the link, very enjoyable. :-) |
Gould,
I am glad you enjoyed the link, but you need to learn how to read the chart. The states in the individual average IQ are alphabetically, not ranked by order. So there can not be a top 10. So in the top tier 102 - 104 average IQ range there are 16 states in that range. Of those 16 states 9 voted for Kerry 7 voted for Bush. The range for the top 34 states was 4 points 46 states was 7 points 50 states was 10 points Where the hoax showed a difference of 28 points. You also missed a very important note at the bottom " The most likely reason for the lower IQ's in southern states is their significant Black population. African-Americans consistently test at an average 85 IQ level." Generally substantiates the "hoax" post! The top four on the "real" site are blue states in 2004. Eight of the top ten on the "real' site are blue states. Ten of the top sixteen are blue states. Only three blue states in the "bottom 15". Thanks for the link, very enjoyable. :-) |
In article ,
says... On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:57:58 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm What a smuck, Harry gets fooled again. What I think Harry meant was that those with the highest IQ's in each of the States voted for Bush. Otherwise, the post meant absolutely nothing. You're right, he is a smuck! The two of you show what a couple of crackers hanging can bring to a conversation. Nothing. It's schmuck, idiots. |
In article c3yid.356440$3l3.304242@attbi_s03, says...
If you want to see the real IQ by state go to: http://www.sq.4mg.com/stateIQ-income.htm If you notice Washington DC was next to the lowest IQ in the nation. Yes, but one point above Bush strongholds South Carolina and Mississippi. |
You also missed a very important note at the bottom " The most likely reason
for the lower IQ's in southern states is their significant Black population. African-Americans consistently test at an average 85 IQ level." Creating some concern that the list may have come from a racist source- (or that it merely reflects the long recognized cultural bias in many IQ tests- particularly those administered to children). However, I'm not the one who touted this as the "real" list- merely took advantage of the fact that it was so represented. My observations are generally correct, although when you take the alphabetizing into account perhaps only nine, rather than ten, of the top sixteen were blue states. Did you remember that New Hampshire was a blue state this time, not a red one? As there were certainly fewer blue states than red states in the overall count, what percentage of blue states vs. percentage of red states were in that top 16? A reasonably dramatic difference, revealed by the "real list". |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... You also missed a very important note at the bottom " The most likely reason for the lower IQ's in southern states is their significant Black population. African-Americans consistently test at an average 85 IQ level." Creating some concern that the list may have come from a racist source- (or that it merely reflects the long recognized cultural bias in many IQ tests- particularly those administered to children). However, I'm not the one who touted this as the "real" list- merely took advantage of the fact that it was so represented. My observations are generally correct, although when you take the alphabetizing into account perhaps only nine, rather than ten, of the top sixteen were blue states. Did you remember that New Hampshire was a blue state this time, not a red one? As there were certainly fewer blue states than red states in the overall count, what percentage of blue states vs. percentage of red states were in that top 16? A reasonably dramatic difference, revealed by the "real list". I am sitting hear reading this thread and laughing. There is no way to break down an average IQ number for the group of people in any particular state who voted for Bush or Kerry. To think you can, and to carry on a debate about it is nothing short of comical. |
I am sitting hear reading this thread and laughing. There is no way to
break down an average IQ number for the group of people in any particular state who voted for Bush or Kerry. To think you can, and to carry on a debate about it is nothing short of comical. That's not what the list is purported to represent. It represents the average IQ levels in each state. Yes, some very bright people undoubtedly voted for George Bush, along with some dumb as dirt. Exactly the same thing can be said for Kerry voters. The only thing that is interesting is that the list actually does demonstrate a general tendency for the majority of voters in the states purported to have higher average IQ's to favor Kerry. We know, for example, that residents of New Hampshire are shown on the "real list" as having a higher average IQ than the residents of Mississippi. We can also measure how the majority of people in that state voted by whether the electoral votes were given to Bush or Kerry. If the list is correct, and we know how the electoral votes were allocated, the discussion is not only possible but at least slightly entertaining. This doesn't mean that the dumbest person in New Hampshire is still brighter than the smartest one in Mississippi, or indicate how any individual person in any state or at any IQ level voted in the election. |
Gould,
I am glad you enjoyed the link, but you need to learn how to read the chart. The states in the individual average IQ are alphabetically, not ranked by order. So there can not be a top 10. So in the top tier 102 - 104 average IQ range there are 16 states in that range. Of those 16 states 9 voted for Kerry 7 voted for Bush. The range for the top 34 states was 4 points 46 states was 7 points 50 states was 10 points Where the hoax showed a difference of 28 points. You also missed a very important note at the bottom " The most likely reason for the lower IQ's in southern states is their significant Black population. African-Americans consistently test at an average 85 IQ level." Generally substantiates the "hoax" post! The top four on the "real" site are blue states in 2004. Eight of the top ten on the "real' site are blue states. Ten of the top sixteen are blue states. Only three blue states in the "bottom 15". Thanks for the link, very enjoyable. :-) |
JimH,
They estimated the average IQ by using the SAT and ACT and adjusting the numbers to approximate the IQ of those who took the test. They then adjusted that number down 10 pts. to estimate an average. So while it is all BS, it is interesting BS. "JimH" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... You also missed a very important note at the bottom " The most likely reason for the lower IQ's in southern states is their significant Black population. African-Americans consistently test at an average 85 IQ level." Creating some concern that the list may have come from a racist source- (or that it merely reflects the long recognized cultural bias in many IQ tests- particularly those administered to children). However, I'm not the one who touted this as the "real" list- merely took advantage of the fact that it was so represented. My observations are generally correct, although when you take the alphabetizing into account perhaps only nine, rather than ten, of the top sixteen were blue states. Did you remember that New Hampshire was a blue state this time, not a red one? As there were certainly fewer blue states than red states in the overall count, what percentage of blue states vs. percentage of red states were in that top 16? A reasonably dramatic difference, revealed by the "real list". I am sitting hear reading this thread and laughing. There is no way to break down an average IQ number for the group of people in any particular state who voted for Bush or Kerry. To think you can, and to carry on a debate about it is nothing short of comical. |
Tell us about the time the dog bite off the burglars thumb Uncle Harry. ; )
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:47:38 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: Harry always believes if he gives enough detail in the stories, ( ie dogs name, what color his collar is, did the kids like to crawl up on his back etc) that his unbelievable stories will become real. Sometimes I think he might actually be the only one who believes them. I had never heard the story before and it certainly was believable to me. Later, Tom Smythe is a useless little twerp, which is why he resides in my bozo bon, along with the other non-contributors. -- George W. Bush...Armed, Dangerous, and Stupid... Just What the Terrorists Want & America Deserves |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I am sitting hear reading this thread and laughing. There is no way to break down an average IQ number for the group of people in any particular state who voted for Bush or Kerry. To think you can, and to carry on a debate about it is nothing short of comical. That's not what the list is purported to represent. It represents the average IQ levels in each state. I realize that. And that is what makes this whole thread funny. Average IQ for the entire state....something suspect at best. But let's assume for a minute that the figure, the average IQ for the State, is accurate. Now lets take an example. Lets say the IQ's equally ranged from a low of 75 to a high of 125, averaging out at 100. What cannot be figured out is the average IQ of those voting for Kerry and those voting for Bush. So in a State with an average IQ of 100, and with that State going to Kerry, it is possible that the average IQ of those Kerry voters is 87...or it could be 112.. But that is absolutely impossible to determine at this point in time. Yes, some very bright people undoubtedly voted for George Bush, along with some dumb as dirt. Exactly the same thing can be said for Kerry voters. The only thing that is interesting is that the list actually does demonstrate a general tendency for the majority of voters in the states purported to have higher average IQ's to favor Kerry. No it absolutely does not. See my earlier comments. And thus my laughing at this entire thread. Sorry guys, but think for a minute what you are debating over. |
JimH,
I hope our discussion was enjoyable, and yes it was a pretty stupid discussion. "JimH" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I am sitting hear reading this thread and laughing. There is no way to break down an average IQ number for the group of people in any particular state who voted for Bush or Kerry. To think you can, and to carry on a debate about it is nothing short of comical. That's not what the list is purported to represent. It represents the average IQ levels in each state. I realize that. And that is what makes this whole thread funny. Average IQ for the entire state....something suspect at best. But let's assume for a minute that the figure, the average IQ for the State, is accurate. Now lets take an example. Lets say the IQ's equally ranged from a low of 75 to a high of 125, averaging out at 100. What cannot be figured out is the average IQ of those voting for Kerry and those voting for Bush. So in a State with an average IQ of 100, and with that State going to Kerry, it is possible that the average IQ of those Kerry voters is 87...or it could be 112.. But that is absolutely impossible to determine at this point in time. Yes, some very bright people undoubtedly voted for George Bush, along with some dumb as dirt. Exactly the same thing can be said for Kerry voters. The only thing that is interesting is that the list actually does demonstrate a general tendency for the majority of voters in the states purported to have higher average IQ's to favor Kerry. No it absolutely does not. See my earlier comments. And thus my laughing at this entire thread. Sorry guys, but think for a minute what you are debating over. |
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:53:51 -0500, JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:47:38 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: Harry always believes if he gives enough detail in the stories, ( ie dogs name, what color his collar is, did the kids like to crawl up on his back etc) that his unbelievable stories will become real. Sometimes I think he might actually be the only one who believes them. "John S" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:22:25 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: Not only that, but it is an old urban legend that no one with any intelligence believed the first time around. The only thing is names were changed from Gore and Bush to Kerry and Bush. "John S" wrote in message m... On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:57:58 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm What a smuck, Harry gets fooled again. What I think Harry meant was that those with the highest IQ's in each of the States voted for Bush. Otherwise, the post meant absolutely nothing. You're right, he is a smuck! Harry isn't scoring any points for intelligent posts today. But I did love the dog biting off a finger story. That should make it into the internet Myth Hall of Fame. All this praise for Harry's latest story is making me want to unfilter him again. Would it be worth it? John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! I don't have him filtered. He gets so off base sometime it makes you laugh. I would unfilter him just for ****s and grins. Just rember the source when you read his posts. |
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 02:27:10 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote:
Tell us about the time the dog bite off the burglars thumb Uncle Harry. ; ) "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:47:38 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: Harry always believes if he gives enough detail in the stories, ( ie dogs name, what color his collar is, did the kids like to crawl up on his back etc) that his unbelievable stories will become real. Sometimes I think he might actually be the only one who believes them. I had never heard the story before and it certainly was believable to me. Later, Tom Smythe is a useless little twerp, which is why he resides in my bozo bon, along with the other non-contributors. -- George W. Bush...Armed, Dangerous, and Stupid... Just What the Terrorists Want & America Deserves It was using the circular glass cutter that threw the story for me. It is extremely difficult to cut a pane of glass from the outside using a glass cutter and break it out without fracturing the pane. Normally when cutting a circle, the circle is cut on the outside then pressure is applied from the inside. Why not just break the whole pane? If there was an alarm system, they invariably are set up to protect against glass breakage as well as the door or window opening. For example, I have glass break detectors on my windows but they are connected through contacts that would open the circuit if the window were opened. Thus if by cutting a hole in the glass (if possible) without breaking the glass so someone could reach inside to unlatch the window, the alarm would still go off the instant the frame was opened. Doors are set up similarly. You could smash out a small section of glass in the side dressing of the door but the second you opened the door the alarm would go off. It just sounded too much like a "Mission Impossible" story of cutting out a round circle of glass. Enjoyable tale though. I got a giggle out of it. |
What cannot be
figured out is the average IQ of those voting for Kerry and those voting for Bush. You are right. What *can* be figured out is what the average IQ is in the states where the majority of voters favored Kerry vs. the average IQ in the states where the majority of voters favored Bush. I know you want to believe that all the smart people voted Bush, and all the dumb voted Kerry, but there is no way to prove or disprove that. |
The story I heard went two ways, the burglar broke a window or the burglar
tried to come in through a doggie door. When the homeowners come home they see the dog chocking and scratching at this mouth. When they go over the open the dogs mouth, they see something stuck in his throat. When they reach in to pull it out is a thumb. "John S" wrote in message ... On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 02:27:10 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: Tell us about the time the dog bite off the burglars thumb Uncle Harry. ; ) "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:47:38 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: Harry always believes if he gives enough detail in the stories, ( ie dogs name, what color his collar is, did the kids like to crawl up on his back etc) that his unbelievable stories will become real. Sometimes I think he might actually be the only one who believes them. I had never heard the story before and it certainly was believable to me. Later, Tom Smythe is a useless little twerp, which is why he resides in my bozo bon, along with the other non-contributors. -- George W. Bush...Armed, Dangerous, and Stupid... Just What the Terrorists Want & America Deserves It was using the circular glass cutter that threw the story for me. It is extremely difficult to cut a pane of glass from the outside using a glass cutter and break it out without fracturing the pane. Normally when cutting a circle, the circle is cut on the outside then pressure is applied from the inside. Why not just break the whole pane? If there was an alarm system, they invariably are set up to protect against glass breakage as well as the door or window opening. For example, I have glass break detectors on my windows but they are connected through contacts that would open the circuit if the window were opened. Thus if by cutting a hole in the glass (if possible) without breaking the glass so someone could reach inside to unlatch the window, the alarm would still go off the instant the frame was opened. Doors are set up similarly. You could smash out a small section of glass in the side dressing of the door but the second you opened the door the alarm would go off. It just sounded too much like a "Mission Impossible" story of cutting out a round circle of glass. Enjoyable tale though. I got a giggle out of it. |
Sure it is. Everyone knows only smart people voted for Bush and only dumb
people voted for Kerry. Wait, damn it all. I voted for Kerry. "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... What cannot be figured out is the average IQ of those voting for Kerry and those voting for Bush. You are right. What *can* be figured out is what the average IQ is in the states where the majority of voters favored Kerry vs. the average IQ in the states where the majority of voters favored Bush. I know you want to believe that all the smart people voted Bush, and all the dumb voted Kerry, but there is no way to prove or disprove that. |
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 04:00:53 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote:
The story I heard went two ways, the burglar broke a window or the burglar tried to come in through a doggie door. When the homeowners come home they see the dog chocking and scratching at this mouth. When they go over the open the dogs mouth, they see something stuck in his throat. When they reach in to pull it out is a thumb. Speaking of doggie doors, one of my engineers has a doggie door to let his dogs in and out of the house to a fenced in area outside. He forgot to close the gate on the outside fence. About 4 AM, his wife woke him up to a real powerful stench. The dog got out, managed to have a losing encounter with a skunk, came back in and rubbed its face all over the carpet, sofa, chairs, etc. trying to rub off the spray. He had to take a day off work to try to clean the furniture and carpeting. Even with his best efforts, some things are headed for the dump. |
The part where is states "The IQ’s are calculated from state SAT and ACT
scores, adjusted downward about 10 points to get to average" says the whole chart is FUBAR! What is the percentage of each state taking the SAT's and ACT's? "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I am sitting hear reading this thread and laughing. There is no way to break down an average IQ number for the group of people in any particular state who voted for Bush or Kerry. To think you can, and to carry on a debate about it is nothing short of comical. That's not what the list is purported to represent. It represents the average IQ levels in each state. Yes, some very bright people undoubtedly voted for George Bush, along with some dumb as dirt. Exactly the same thing can be said for Kerry voters. The only thing that is interesting is that the list actually does demonstrate a general tendency for the majority of voters in the states purported to have higher average IQ's to favor Kerry. We know, for example, that residents of New Hampshire are shown on the "real list" as having a higher average IQ than the residents of Mississippi. We can also measure how the majority of people in that state voted by whether the electoral votes were given to Bush or Kerry. If the list is correct, and we know how the electoral votes were allocated, the discussion is not only possible but at least slightly entertaining. This doesn't mean that the dumbest person in New Hampshire is still brighter than the smartest one in Mississippi, or indicate how any individual person in any state or at any IQ level voted in the election. |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... What cannot be figured out is the average IQ of those voting for Kerry and those voting for Bush. You are right. What *can* be figured out is what the average IQ is in the states where the majority of voters favored Kerry vs. the average IQ in the states where the majority of voters favored Bush. I know you want to believe that all the smart people voted Bush, and all the dumb voted Kerry, but there is no way to prove or disprove that. Give me a friggin break Chuck. Where did I even elude to that?????? |
"John S" wrote in message ... On 05 Nov 2004 03:54:52 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote: What cannot be figured out is the average IQ of those voting for Kerry and those voting for Bush. You are right. What *can* be figured out is what the average IQ is in the states where the majority of voters favored Kerry vs. the average IQ in the states where the majority of voters favored Bush. I know you want to believe that all the smart people voted Bush, and all the dumb voted Kerry, but there is no way to prove or disprove that. Krause started the thread insinuating the people that voted for Bush had a lower IQ. As you say, there is no proof one way or the other. Actually Chuck only realized it after I pointed it out to him.....otherwise he would still be carrying on this silly debate. |
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:15:12 -0500, John S wrote:
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 04:00:53 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: The story I heard went two ways, the burglar broke a window or the burglar tried to come in through a doggie door. When the homeowners come home they see the dog chocking and scratching at this mouth. When they go over the open the dogs mouth, they see something stuck in his throat. When they reach in to pull it out is a thumb. Speaking of doggie doors, one of my engineers has a doggie door to let his dogs in and out of the house to a fenced in area outside. He forgot to close the gate on the outside fence. About 4 AM, his wife woke him up to a real powerful stench. The dog got out, managed to have a losing encounter with a skunk, came back in and rubbed its face all over the carpet, sofa, chairs, etc. trying to rub off the spray. He had to take a day off work to try to clean the furniture and carpeting. Even with his best efforts, some things are headed for the dump. EEEEWWWWWWWW........... Living in the woods like I do, things like this happen from time-to-time. Over the years we've lost a couple of pieces of furniture because of Pepe Le Pew. Feel sorry for the poor dog. That's a shave AND a haircut deal. :) Later, Tom "Beware the one legged man in a butt kicking contest - he is there for a reason." Wun Hung Lo - date unknown |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I know you want to believe that all the smart people voted Bush, and all the dumb voted Kerry, but there is no way to prove or disprove that. Give me a friggin break Chuck. Where did I even elude to that?????? When you introduced the concept of individual IQ's. Dr Dr Smith said he had a"real chart" showing the average IQ's per state. I observed that according to his "real chart", the four top states with the highest IQ's and a clear majority of the top third overall voted for Kerry. Has nothing to do with how smart an individual voter is. OMG. All I can say is you have lost it and just do not get it. |
I had one and a neighbors cat walked in and tried to screw my cat under our
bed. It is hell to wake up to a horny cat howling away. "John S" wrote in message ... On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 04:00:53 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: The story I heard went two ways, the burglar broke a window or the burglar tried to come in through a doggie door. When the homeowners come home they see the dog chocking and scratching at this mouth. When they go over the open the dogs mouth, they see something stuck in his throat. When they reach in to pull it out is a thumb. Speaking of doggie doors, one of my engineers has a doggie door to let his dogs in and out of the house to a fenced in area outside. He forgot to close the gate on the outside fence. About 4 AM, his wife woke him up to a real powerful stench. The dog got out, managed to have a losing encounter with a skunk, came back in and rubbed its face all over the carpet, sofa, chairs, etc. trying to rub off the spray. He had to take a day off work to try to clean the furniture and carpeting. Even with his best efforts, some things are headed for the dump. |
I live in the city, but there are still a few very small wooded areas, I am
surprised that we have a fox, rabbits and a skunk living in less than an acre. They are very adaptable. \ "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:15:12 -0500, John S wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 04:00:53 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: The story I heard went two ways, the burglar broke a window or the burglar tried to come in through a doggie door. When the homeowners come home they see the dog chocking and scratching at this mouth. When they go over the open the dogs mouth, they see something stuck in his throat. When they reach in to pull it out is a thumb. Speaking of doggie doors, one of my engineers has a doggie door to let his dogs in and out of the house to a fenced in area outside. He forgot to close the gate on the outside fence. About 4 AM, his wife woke him up to a real powerful stench. The dog got out, managed to have a losing encounter with a skunk, came back in and rubbed its face all over the carpet, sofa, chairs, etc. trying to rub off the spray. He had to take a day off work to try to clean the furniture and carpeting. Even with his best efforts, some things are headed for the dump. EEEEWWWWWWWW........... Living in the woods like I do, things like this happen from time-to-time. Over the years we've lost a couple of pieces of furniture because of Pepe Le Pew. Feel sorry for the poor dog. That's a shave AND a haircut deal. :) Later, Tom "Beware the one legged man in a butt kicking contest - he is there for a reason." Wun Hung Lo - date unknown |
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:42:35 +0000, Dr. Dr. Smithers wrote:
I had one and a neighbors cat walked in and tried to screw my cat under our bed. It is hell to wake up to a horny cat howling away. LOL, I had a similar experience. Only it was a cat fight, and it was on my chest. I'm a sound sleeper, but I woke up with a scream and cats flying. I don't have a doggie door anymore. |
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I had never heard the story before and it certainly was believable to me. That's because you are extremely naive about krause. -- Charlie |
"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote in message news:ekyid.569828$8_6.164834@attbi_s04... Harry always believes if he gives enough detail in the stories, ( ie dogs name, what color his collar is, did the kids like to crawl up on his back etc) that his unbelievable stories will become real. Sometimes I think he might actually be the only one who believes them. Nope......asslicker will believe every one of them LOL "John S" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:22:25 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: Not only that, but it is an old urban legend that no one with any intelligence believed the first time around. The only thing is names were changed from Gore and Bush to Kerry and Bush. "John S" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:57:58 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote: http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm What a smuck, Harry gets fooled again. What I think Harry meant was that those with the highest IQ's in each of the States voted for Bush. Otherwise, the post meant absolutely nothing. You're right, he is a smuck! Harry isn't scoring any points for intelligent posts today. But I did love the dog biting off a finger story. That should make it into the internet Myth Hall of Fame. |
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