The part where is states "The IQ’s are calculated from state SAT and ACT
scores, adjusted downward about 10 points to get to average" says the whole
chart is FUBAR! What is the percentage of each state taking the SAT's and
ACT's?

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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I am sitting hear reading this thread and laughing. There is no way to
break down an average IQ number for the group of people in any particular
state who voted for Bush or Kerry. To think you can, and to carry on a
debate about it is nothing short of comical.

That's not what the list is purported to represent. It represents the
average
IQ levels in each state. Yes, some very bright people undoubtedly voted
for
George Bush, along with some dumb as dirt. Exactly the same thing can be
said
for Kerry voters.

The only thing that is interesting is that the list actually does
demonstrate a
general tendency for the majority of voters in the states purported to
have
higher average IQ's to favor Kerry.

We know, for example, that residents of New Hampshire are shown on the
"real
list" as having a higher average IQ than the residents of Mississippi. We
can
also measure how the majority of people in that state voted by whether the
electoral votes were given to Bush or Kerry. If the list is correct, and
we
know how the electoral votes were allocated, the discussion is not only
possible but at least slightly entertaining.

This doesn't mean that the dumbest person in New Hampshire is still
brighter
than the smartest one in Mississippi, or indicate how any individual
person in
any state or at any IQ level voted in the election.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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What cannot be
figured out is the average IQ of those voting for Kerry and those voting
for
Bush.

You are right. What *can* be figured out is what the average IQ is in the
states where the majority of voters favored Kerry vs. the average IQ in
the
states where the majority of voters favored Bush.

I know you want to believe that all the smart people voted Bush, and all
the
dumb voted Kerry, but there is no way to prove or disprove that.



Give me a friggin break Chuck. Where did I even elude to that??????

"John S" wrote in message
news
On 05 Nov 2004 03:54:52 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

What cannot be
figured out is the average IQ of those voting for Kerry and those voting
for
Bush.

You are right. What *can* be figured out is what the average IQ is in the
states where the majority of voters favored Kerry vs. the average IQ in
the
states where the majority of voters favored Bush.

I know you want to believe that all the smart people voted Bush, and all
the
dumb voted Kerry, but there is no way to prove or disprove that.


Krause started the thread insinuating the people that voted for Bush had a
lower IQ. As you say, there is no proof one way or the other.

Actually Chuck only realized it after I pointed it out to him.....otherwise
he would still be carrying on this silly debate.

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:15:12 -0500, John S wrote:

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 04:00:53 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote:

The story I heard went two ways, the burglar broke a window or the burglar
tried to come in through a doggie door. When the homeowners come home they
see the dog chocking and scratching at this mouth. When they go over the
open the dogs mouth, they see something stuck in his throat. When they
reach in to pull it out is a thumb.


Speaking of doggie doors, one of my engineers has a doggie door to let his
dogs in and out of the house to a fenced in area outside. He forgot to close
the gate on the outside fence.

About 4 AM, his wife woke him up to a real powerful stench. The dog got out,
managed to have a losing encounter with a skunk, came back in and rubbed its
face all over the carpet, sofa, chairs, etc. trying to rub off the spray. He
had to take a day off work to try to clean the furniture and carpeting. Even
with his best efforts, some things are headed for the dump.

EEEEWWWWWWWW...........

Living in the woods like I do, things like this happen from
time-to-time. Over the years we've lost a couple of pieces of
furniture because of Pepe Le Pew.

Feel sorry for the poor dog. That's a shave AND a haircut deal. :)

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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I know you want to believe that all the smart people voted Bush, and all
the
dumb voted Kerry, but there is no way to prove or disprove that.


Give me a friggin break Chuck. Where did I even elude to that??????

When you introduced the concept of individual IQ's.

Dr Dr Smith said he had a"real chart" showing the average IQ's per state.
I
observed that according to his "real chart", the four top states with the
highest IQ's and a clear majority of the top third overall
voted for Kerry. Has nothing to do with how smart an individual voter is.

OMG. All I can say is you have lost it and just do not get it.

I had one and a neighbors cat walked in and tried to screw my cat under our
bed. It is hell to wake up to a horny cat howling away.


"John S" wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 04:00:53 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers"
wrote:

The story I heard went two ways, the burglar broke a window or the burglar
tried to come in through a doggie door. When the homeowners come home
they
see the dog chocking and scratching at this mouth. When they go over the
open the dogs mouth, they see something stuck in his throat. When they
reach in to pull it out is a thumb.


Speaking of doggie doors, one of my engineers has a doggie door to let his
dogs in and out of the house to a fenced in area outside. He forgot to
close
the gate on the outside fence.

About 4 AM, his wife woke him up to a real powerful stench. The dog got
out,
managed to have a losing encounter with a skunk, came back in and rubbed
its
face all over the carpet, sofa, chairs, etc. trying to rub off the spray.
He
had to take a day off work to try to clean the furniture and carpeting.
Even
with his best efforts, some things are headed for the dump.

I live in the city, but there are still a few very small wooded areas, I am
surprised that we have a fox, rabbits and a skunk living in less than an
acre. They are very adaptable.

\
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:15:12 -0500, John S wrote:

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 04:00:53 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers"
wrote:

The story I heard went two ways, the burglar broke a window or the
burglar
tried to come in through a doggie door. When the homeowners come home
they
see the dog chocking and scratching at this mouth. When they go over the
open the dogs mouth, they see something stuck in his throat. When they
reach in to pull it out is a thumb.


Speaking of doggie doors, one of my engineers has a doggie door to let his
dogs in and out of the house to a fenced in area outside. He forgot to
close
the gate on the outside fence.

About 4 AM, his wife woke him up to a real powerful stench. The dog got
out,
managed to have a losing encounter with a skunk, came back in and rubbed
its
face all over the carpet, sofa, chairs, etc. trying to rub off the spray.
He
had to take a day off work to try to clean the furniture and carpeting.
Even
with his best efforts, some things are headed for the dump.

EEEEWWWWWWWW...........

Living in the woods like I do, things like this happen from
time-to-time. Over the years we've lost a couple of pieces of
furniture because of Pepe Le Pew.

Feel sorry for the poor dog. That's a shave AND a haircut deal. :)

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:42:35 +0000, Dr. Dr. Smithers wrote:

I had one and a neighbors cat walked in and tried to screw my cat under
our bed. It is hell to wake up to a horny cat howling away.

LOL, I had a similar experience. Only it was a cat fight, and it was on
my chest. I'm a sound sleeper, but I woke up with a scream and cats
flying. I don't have a doggie door anymore.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I had never heard the story before and it certainly was believable to
me.


That's because you are extremely naive about krause.

-- Charlie

"Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote in message
news:ekyid.569828$8_6.164834@attbi_s04...
Harry always believes if he gives enough detail in the stories, ( ie dogs
name, what color his collar is, did the kids like to crawl up on his back
etc) that his unbelievable stories will become real. Sometimes I think
he might actually be the only one who believes them.

Nope......asslicker will believe every one of them LOL





"John S" wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:22:25 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers"
wrote:

Not only that, but it is an old urban legend that no one with any
intelligence believed the first time around. The only thing is names
were
changed from Gore and Bush to Kerry and Bush.


"John S" wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:57:58 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers"
wrote:

http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm

What a smuck, Harry gets fooled again.


What I think Harry meant was that those with the highest IQ's in each
of
the
States voted for Bush. Otherwise, the post meant absolutely nothing.

You're right, he is a smuck!


Harry isn't scoring any points for intelligent posts today. But I did
love
the dog biting off a finger story. That should make it into the internet
Myth Hall of Fame.