--riverman

* I have this image of a cartoon where three Conservatives are talking,
agreeing with each other about how things are and ought to be, and after
dozens of "hell, yeah!s" where they all agree, one says "Well, I don't agree
with THAT". The other two look at him in stony silence for a second, and say
"When did you become a Liberal??"

riverman, this is very good. Very funny! My wife and I both laughed.

It is said, that Christians are the only army that shoots their own
wounded.

I have found such to be the case. A few years back I was terribly
wounded, and found myself cast off on the roadside by the church. A
few good Samaritans came along, and nursed me back to life, but I
found few previous church friends that would even say "Hi".

I am yet today not active supporting the church on Sunday crowd.
Personally I have a better time at the Lake, with some good friends,
and we have a great time together. I am not opposed to those who want
to go to church on Sunday, that is their decision, just not mine. So
please don't lump me into that crowd.

I also do not choose to be subject to any particular preacher or
religious leader. In fact I can easily use my TnT on them as well, and
usually find that for all their training, they wilt and scuttle away
behind their busy schedule at best, or some lose their sanctimonious
pretense and basically tell me to get the hell out of their life. Very
spiritual of them! So please don't accuse me of being some mind-numbed
robot either.

I am still a dedicated Christian, and that will not change, due to the
nature of being a Christian. I am first a Christian, and second a
husband, I love my wife. All other issues come up a distant 3rd or
4th, or further down. Being a conservative is way down the list, so my
participation in this thread was definitely academic. The issues
raised are good, and I appreciate your insight. I have already been
checking out some of the things that have been said by you and others.
So if a thread like this has any benefit, hopefully it opens all of
our eyes a little bit, as we learn to communicate with each other.

It is not that I am not concerned about the ecology, or the
environment. And I really have enjoyed the conversation with you.
Sometimes maybe just a little to much.






In closing, I would like to tell you a little fishing story,

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Three guys were out fishing in their bass boat. Being Sunday, the two
conservative Christians thought they should at least talk about God
some, and witness to their liberal non-Christian friend who was along
for the first time. So they got to talking about how Jesus could walk
on water, and how convienent it would be if they could do the same.
Especially since they would ocasionally get their line snagged on the
brush along the side of the lake.

The LNF (Liberal non-Christian friend) finally had enough of all this
talk about God, and challenged the two CFRs, that if they really
believed what they were saying, why didn't they just get out of the
boat and walk on the water. Where upon one of the CFRs stood up, got
out of the boat, and to the surprise of the LNF, took a casual stroll
around the boat!

Surprised, but not totally convinced, the LNF indicated to the other
CFR that he should do the same. Whereupon the other CFR jumped out of
the boat, and did the same!

Still not ready to believe, the LNF was totally miffed, and thought,
anything they can do I can do better, and he jumped out of the boat,
and immediately went under. While he splashed around, not being a
strong swimmer, the two CFRs sitting in the boat were discussing
whether they should pull the Liberal back in, or let him swim a while
longer.

They finally had compassion on the poor man, being good Christians,
and decided, to just tell him where the stepping stones were!

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Now there are many morals to this story, the main one pertinent to
this thread, is to be careful of who your trolling partners are, or at
least know where the stepping stones are located.

I like fishing also, having tied flies since I was a kid. Not very
good at that either, but some of the fish didn' know!

Thanks for the chat, I'm ready to get on paddlin',

Respectfully, Tinkerntom, aka Knesisknosis, Life, Live it!