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F330 GT November 2nd 04 09:41 PM

Bush is toast
 
Tradesports Interactive now shows Bush pres @ 38, Kerry pres @ 62.4 a change of
15 points in the last few hours.

Bush winning popular vote @ 25.1. Kerry wins popular vote @ 54.6.

Follow the money.... The bettors know.


Barry

JimH November 2nd 04 10:16 PM

Funny.


"F330 GT" wrote in message
...
Tradesports Interactive now shows Bush pres @ 38, Kerry pres @ 62.4 a
change of
15 points in the last few hours.

Bush winning popular vote @ 25.1. Kerry wins popular vote @ 54.6.

Follow the money.... The bettors know.


Barry




F330 GT November 2nd 04 11:12 PM

F330 GT wrote:
Tradesports Interactive now shows Bush pres @ 38, Kerry pres @ 62.4 a

change of
15 points in the last few hours.

Bush winning popular vote @ 25.1. Kerry wins popular vote @ 54.6.

Follow the money.... The bettors know.


Barry


Oh, come on...I didn't get to vote that many times.

Seriously, even the exit polling data spilling about is too preliminary
for anyone to determine anything.


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You're probably right but the signs are looking real good. This site is a real
time market for trading and as such is as close to a real time poll as you can
get.

Bush is dropping like a rock. He's now as 28 with Kerry at 71 to win. He's also
falling fast in the Florida race, the Ohio race and the popular vote. It's not
going to be as close as a lot of people think, if this proves true. Which, I
hope it is.

Check out: www.tradesports.com

Barry

Gould 0738 November 2nd 04 11:39 PM

Bush is dropping like a rock. He's now as 28 with Kerry at 71 to win. He's
also
falling fast in the Florida race, the Ohio race and the popular vote. It's
not
going to be as close as a lot of people think, if this proves true. Which, I
hope it is.


I hope the election isn't a "squeaker."
I believe Kerry could show stronger than the pre-election polls due to the
"cell phone factor", (a high percentage of people under about 30 have no land
lines, and therefore do not get polled), record voter turnout, (lots of new
young voters who haven't yet grown cynical- as well as greater emphasis on the
registered, vs "likely" voter categories when a higher percentage of the
electorate turns out), and his strong end of race momentum.

The nation needs a clear winner this time around. A win so decisive that we
won't spend the next four years arguing about who really won the race. It would
be better if that winner is Kerry, but if Bush slides in
"safe" at second let's hope the margin is
obvious. If there was any question about his initial election, it would be
better if there were no question about the legitimacy of his (wash my mouth
out) possible reelection.



Short Wave Sportfishing November 2nd 04 11:51 PM

On 02 Nov 2004 23:39:08 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Bush is dropping like a rock. He's now as 28 with Kerry at 71 to win. He's
also
falling fast in the Florida race, the Ohio race and the popular vote. It's
not
going to be as close as a lot of people think, if this proves true. Which, I
hope it is.


I hope the election isn't a "squeaker."
I believe Kerry could show stronger than the pre-election polls due to the
"cell phone factor", (a high percentage of people under about 30 have no land
lines, and therefore do not get polled), record voter turnout, (lots of new
young voters who haven't yet grown cynical- as well as greater emphasis on the
registered, vs "likely" voter categories when a higher percentage of the
electorate turns out), and his strong end of race momentum.


Two comments:

1 - I was talking to a state DNC member about a month or so back and
she was telling me that the pollsters had missed one huge block of
potential voters - the 18-25 block and that's why she was pushing hard
for contact polling data. The reason? Cell phones - they aren't
polled as it's illegal. She had a pretty good logic going for her
too.

2 - My wife and I just returned from Town Hall and the Town Clerk was
telling me that this is the first time she's ever seen voter volume
like this - and we're only 6,500 people strong.

I agree with you on the clear election results.

For the record, I didn't vote for President as it's a foregone
conclusion here in CT for one and I just couldn't bring myself to vote
for either of the two goons running. Voted for all the other offices
though.

All the best,

Tom
--------------

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

Eisboch November 3rd 04 01:28 AM

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
snip

For the record, I didn't vote for President as it's a foregone
conclusion here in CT for one and I just couldn't bring myself to vote
for either of the two goons running. Voted for all the other offices
though.

All the best,

Tom
--------------


Why didn't you support Ralph. After all, he warned us about the Corvair.



I thought Corvairs were pretty cool, particularly the '64 Spyder.


Eisboch

Don White November 3rd 04 01:36 AM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
snip
For the record, I didn't vote for President as it's a foregone
conclusion here in CT for one and I just couldn't bring myself to vote
for either of the two goons running. Voted for all the other offices
though.

All the best,

Tom
--------------

Why didn't you support Ralph. After all, he warned us about the Corvair.



JimH November 3rd 04 01:50 AM


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
snip
For the record, I didn't vote for President as it's a foregone
conclusion here in CT for one and I just couldn't bring myself to vote
for either of the two goons running. Voted for all the other offices
though.

All the best,

Tom
--------------

Why didn't you support Ralph. After all, he warned us about the Corvair.



And that qualifies him as being a capable candidate for POTUS to you?




Karl Denninger November 3rd 04 01:52 AM


In article ,
Gould 0738 wrote:


Bush is dropping like a rock. He's now as 28 with Kerry at 71 to win. He's
also
falling fast in the Florida race, the Ohio race and the popular vote. It's
not
going to be as close as a lot of people think, if this proves true. Which, I
hope it is.


I hope the election isn't a "squeaker."
I believe Kerry could show stronger than the pre-election polls due to the
"cell phone factor", (a high percentage of people under about 30 have no land
lines, and therefore do not get polled), record voter turnout, (lots of new
young voters who haven't yet grown cynical- as well as greater emphasis on the
registered, vs "likely" voter categories when a higher percentage of the
electorate turns out), and his strong end of race momentum.

The nation needs a clear winner this time around. A win so decisive that we
won't spend the next four years arguing about who really won the race. It would
be better if that winner is Kerry, but if Bush slides in
"safe" at second let's hope the margin is
obvious. If there was any question about his initial election, it would be
better if there were no question about the legitimacy of his (wash my mouth
out) possible reelection.


I think you're nuts.

Note that all of the reported counties thus far are in the peninsula.

The Panhandle traditionally votes about 70% Bush - and did in 2000.

Yet Bush is ahead in Florida....

I wouldn't take a bet on Kerry winning Florida - nor Ohio from what I see
at this point.

Note that some of the calls made had the exit polls pointing the other way
- particularly Virginia.

The exit polls had one major problem this time - they were overweighted
female, which is not a good thing for accuracy.

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Gould 0738 November 3rd 04 01:59 AM

I think you're nuts.

Thanks karl.

Which statement did you think was the nuttier?

My hope that the election would be decided by an obvious margin, one way or the
other- or my observation that a clearly legitimate win will be important for
either candidate?


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