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Bush is toast
Tradesports Interactive now shows Bush pres @ 38, Kerry pres @ 62.4 a change of
15 points in the last few hours. Bush winning popular vote @ 25.1. Kerry wins popular vote @ 54.6. Follow the money.... The bettors know. Barry |
Funny.
"F330 GT" wrote in message ... Tradesports Interactive now shows Bush pres @ 38, Kerry pres @ 62.4 a change of 15 points in the last few hours. Bush winning popular vote @ 25.1. Kerry wins popular vote @ 54.6. Follow the money.... The bettors know. Barry |
F330 GT wrote:
Tradesports Interactive now shows Bush pres @ 38, Kerry pres @ 62.4 a change of 15 points in the last few hours. Bush winning popular vote @ 25.1. Kerry wins popular vote @ 54.6. Follow the money.... The bettors know. Barry Oh, come on...I didn't get to vote that many times. Seriously, even the exit polling data spilling about is too preliminary for anyone to determine anything. -- You're probably right but the signs are looking real good. This site is a real time market for trading and as such is as close to a real time poll as you can get. Bush is dropping like a rock. He's now as 28 with Kerry at 71 to win. He's also falling fast in the Florida race, the Ohio race and the popular vote. It's not going to be as close as a lot of people think, if this proves true. Which, I hope it is. Check out: www.tradesports.com Barry |
Bush is dropping like a rock. He's now as 28 with Kerry at 71 to win. He's
also falling fast in the Florida race, the Ohio race and the popular vote. It's not going to be as close as a lot of people think, if this proves true. Which, I hope it is. I hope the election isn't a "squeaker." I believe Kerry could show stronger than the pre-election polls due to the "cell phone factor", (a high percentage of people under about 30 have no land lines, and therefore do not get polled), record voter turnout, (lots of new young voters who haven't yet grown cynical- as well as greater emphasis on the registered, vs "likely" voter categories when a higher percentage of the electorate turns out), and his strong end of race momentum. The nation needs a clear winner this time around. A win so decisive that we won't spend the next four years arguing about who really won the race. It would be better if that winner is Kerry, but if Bush slides in "safe" at second let's hope the margin is obvious. If there was any question about his initial election, it would be better if there were no question about the legitimacy of his (wash my mouth out) possible reelection. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message snip For the record, I didn't vote for President as it's a foregone conclusion here in CT for one and I just couldn't bring myself to vote for either of the two goons running. Voted for all the other offices though. All the best, Tom -------------- Why didn't you support Ralph. After all, he warned us about the Corvair. I thought Corvairs were pretty cool, particularly the '64 Spyder. Eisboch |
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message snip For the record, I didn't vote for President as it's a foregone conclusion here in CT for one and I just couldn't bring myself to vote for either of the two goons running. Voted for all the other offices though. All the best, Tom -------------- Why didn't you support Ralph. After all, he warned us about the Corvair. |
"Don White" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message snip For the record, I didn't vote for President as it's a foregone conclusion here in CT for one and I just couldn't bring myself to vote for either of the two goons running. Voted for all the other offices though. All the best, Tom -------------- Why didn't you support Ralph. After all, he warned us about the Corvair. And that qualifies him as being a capable candidate for POTUS to you? |
In article , Gould 0738 wrote: Bush is dropping like a rock. He's now as 28 with Kerry at 71 to win. He's also falling fast in the Florida race, the Ohio race and the popular vote. It's not going to be as close as a lot of people think, if this proves true. Which, I hope it is. I hope the election isn't a "squeaker." I believe Kerry could show stronger than the pre-election polls due to the "cell phone factor", (a high percentage of people under about 30 have no land lines, and therefore do not get polled), record voter turnout, (lots of new young voters who haven't yet grown cynical- as well as greater emphasis on the registered, vs "likely" voter categories when a higher percentage of the electorate turns out), and his strong end of race momentum. The nation needs a clear winner this time around. A win so decisive that we won't spend the next four years arguing about who really won the race. It would be better if that winner is Kerry, but if Bush slides in "safe" at second let's hope the margin is obvious. If there was any question about his initial election, it would be better if there were no question about the legitimacy of his (wash my mouth out) possible reelection. I think you're nuts. Note that all of the reported counties thus far are in the peninsula. The Panhandle traditionally votes about 70% Bush - and did in 2000. Yet Bush is ahead in Florida.... I wouldn't take a bet on Kerry winning Florida - nor Ohio from what I see at this point. Note that some of the calls made had the exit polls pointing the other way - particularly Virginia. The exit polls had one major problem this time - they were overweighted female, which is not a good thing for accuracy. -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
I think you're nuts.
Thanks karl. Which statement did you think was the nuttier? My hope that the election would be decided by an obvious margin, one way or the other- or my observation that a clearly legitimate win will be important for either candidate? |
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In article , Gould 0738 wrote: I think you're nuts. Thanks karl. Which statement did you think was the nuttier? My hope that the election would be decided by an obvious margin, one way or the other- or my observation that a clearly legitimate win will be important for either candidate? I agree with both of those sentiments Chuck. It appeared you were basically calling the election for Kerry based on the exit polls. However, I do not believe that Kerry's odds are looking good right now. The exit polls were clearly wrong in at least a couple of cases so far, and the reason (improper split of gender among those polled) appears to have been identified. The misrepresentation of the sample is large enough (close to 10%) that the swing would easily be 3-4% in the results .vs. actual returns. This has been confirmed in Virginia - if it holds elsewhere, Kerry is toast and it indeed will not be close. Since women tend to vote Democrat, this skews the results - with all these states being within a couple of points, the error is much larger than the margin. I'm looking at Florida's returns right now on a county-by-county basis, and were I Kerry I wouldn't like what I was seeing. With the exception of Miami-Dade the counties that should have broken for Kerry big haven't - and the counties that break heavily for Bush aren't yet in - yet Bush is comfortably ahead among those counties that HAVE been counted. The truly ugly part of it for Kerry is that some of the I-4 corridor counties ARE in, the turnout was huge, and while these counties went for Gore in 2000, they've gone for Bush in a big way this time around - showing that the turnout "projections" (e.g. big turnout helps 'crats) probably isn't going to hold up this time. If Florida and Ohio both go for Bush then there is basically no way for Kerry to pull it off. -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
In article , bb wrote: On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 01:52:03 GMT, (Karl Denninger) wrote: The exit polls had one major problem this time The biggest problem with exit polls currently is they can't take into account electronic fraud. bb The exit polls were overrepresenting women by nearly 10%. That will result in a swing of 3-4% in the results towards Democrats. If you take the exit polls and move them 3-4% towards Bush, he wins Florida, Ohio, Virginia and a whole host of other states that looked like Kerry wins this afternoon. Virginia has already confirmed this shift, and it looks from a county-level view in Florida like it may be confirmed here as well. -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
"JimH" wrote in message ... And that qualifies him as being a capable candidate for POTUS to you? You're probably right...better to vote for a boozing slacker. |
In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote:com, The exit polls were overrepresenting women by nearly 10%. That will result in a swing of 3-4% in the results towards Democrats. If you take the exit polls and move them 3-4% towards Bush, he wins Florida, Ohio, Virginia and a whole host of other states that looked like Kerry wins this afternoon. There are approximately 250,000 absentee ballots in Florida that have not yet been added to the totals you are seeing. Florida apparently is as much a mess this time as last time. Incorrect; the county-by-county breakdown tells all (they specifically tabulate if the absentee vote is included, and don't consider the count in a given county "complete" until it is...) -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
In article , Gould 0738 wrote: I agree with both of those sentiments Chuck. It appeared you were basically calling the election for Kerry based on the exit polls. You mixed my comments up with another post to which I was responding. It ain't over yet. May not be over for days, but lets hope the will of the 50 states (the people don't count in this race) is clear by later toninght. I think it will be over later this evening - Florida is now roughly 75% in, including the "big" democrat counties. Ohio is tougher for me, because I don't have nearly as good a "feel" for the county breakdown there. As things sit right now Bush is ahead by close to 200,000 votes - to make up that differential Kerry has a hell of an uphill climb, given that his stronghold counties are either largely or entirely in at this point. The exit polls were pretty clearly wrong. -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: In article , Gould 0738 wrote: I agree with both of those sentiments Chuck. It appeared you were basically calling the election for Kerry based on the exit polls. You mixed my comments up with another post to which I was responding. It ain't over yet. May not be over for days, but lets hope the will of the 50 states (the people don't count in this race) is clear by later toninght. I think it will be over later this evening - Florida is now roughly 75% in, including the "big" democrat counties. Ohio is tougher for me, because I don't have nearly as good a "feel" for the county breakdown there. As things sit right now Bush is ahead by close to 200,000 votes - to make up that differential Kerry has a hell of an uphill climb, given that his stronghold counties are either largely or entirely in at this point. The exit polls were pretty clearly wrong. -- Probably not. My guess is that "adjustments" were made on the receipt-less electronic voting machines in Florida and Ohio. Of course, with no paper trail, how would one prove this? How convenient. Right out of the Democrat Party playbook. "Even if you can't find evidence of fraud or intimidation, accuse people of it anyway." Never mind that the counties which went heavily Kerry are all run by Democrats. Up here in the Panhandle we use mark-sense paper ballots, which are easily recounted (either by machine or hand) Thus, you want to now accuse a Democrat Party machine, which ran the election in those counties, of committing fraud for the REPUBLICAN candidate? That stretches credibility just a TINY bit, don't 'ya think? -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... I've posited more than once that federal elections ought to be run by federal officials, Harry, You posting your preference in rec.boats will not have any impact on making any changes. Why don't you do something about it. |
I owned a '64 Corvair Spyder with the four separate carbs, scattered in 4
different areas of the engine. Crazy set up, but it would peel a wheel in 4th gear. "Eisboch" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message snip For the record, I didn't vote for President as it's a foregone conclusion here in CT for one and I just couldn't bring myself to vote for either of the two goons running. Voted for all the other offices though. All the best, Tom -------------- Why didn't you support Ralph. After all, he warned us about the Corvair. I thought Corvairs were pretty cool, particularly the '64 Spyder. Eisboch |
In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: Right out of the Democrat Party playbook. "Even if you can't find evidence of fraud or intimidation, accuse people of it anyway." Never mind that the counties which went heavily Kerry are all run by Democrats. Up here in the Panhandle we use mark-sense paper ballots, which are easily recounted (either by machine or hand) Thus, you want to now accuse a Democrat Party machine, which ran the election in those counties, of committing fraud for the REPUBLICAN candidate? That stretches credibility just a TINY bit, don't 'ya think? -- Try to think this through, Karl. There's more to Florida than Miami-Dade and Evangelistia, where you live, eh? Anywhere there are receipt-less electronic voting machines in Florida, there are opportunities for fraud. And when the GOP runs the entire state, but for a few counties, the opportunities are substantial. I've posited more than once that federal elections ought to be run by federal officials, on equipment that meets standards and provides both the voter and the counters with hard receipts. Receipt-less electronic voting machines are so much trash. There are electronic machines that generate receipts. You're correct. Now explain why Theresa LaPore, who's a Democrat in a heavily-democratic county, decided to buy and install in her county the machines that do not generate receipts - in the very county where the chad fun was present. PS: The majority of the heavily republican counties in Florida use and have used mark-sense cards with a reader at the point of ballot deposit that will not accept an overvoted ballot. Indeed, its simply amazing - the Democrat counties are the ones who adopted these electronic machines, in the main. Do 'ya think they thought perhaps they could pull some funny bizness - like in Pennsylvania where there were machines in heavily-Democrat counties that STARTED with votes on the tabulators - but it just didn't work out for them? Might be.... Florida is now 88% in, with Bush having a margin of about 250,000 votes. Florida looks pretty safe in Bush's column Harry... the remaining votes would have to break roughly 75% for Kerry for him to win here. Ain't gonna happen. -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message Looks like the dumfoch got himself a four-year term to further destroy what was once a great country. The upside is that '08 will have a clear slate from both parties who can BOTH field better candidates. I'd kinda rather see a clear slate in '08 than EIGHT years of Kerry who seems too "political" to be "real". I'd welcome a clear and fair debate in '08...... as oppesed to another 10 years of "he said - she said" -W |
In article , Harry Krause wrote: Looks like the dumfoch got himself a four-year term to further destroy what was once a great country. Won fair and square Harry.... despite stuffing the tabulators in Ohio, it wasn't enough - and Florida was won DECISIVELY. Looks like Ohio will be as well, with no chance of a recount (you have to be within 1/4 of 1% to get one in Ohio.) NM is nearly certain to go Bush shortly. Nevada may as well; too early to know at this point, but it doesn't matter.... -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
In article , Clams Canino wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message Looks like the dumfoch got himself a four-year term to further destroy what was once a great country. The upside is that '08 will have a clear slate from both parties who can BOTH field better candidates. I'd kinda rather see a clear slate in '08 than EIGHT years of Kerry who seems too "political" to be "real". I'd welcome a clear and fair debate in '08...... as oppesed to another 10 years of "he said - she said" -W Agreed. Hopefully we'll get good candidates next time around, starting with no incumbency. Cheney has already said he won't run, and is probably not viable anyway due to health reasons even if he was to attempt to change his mind. -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Karl Denninger wrote: In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: Right out of the Democrat Party playbook. "Even if you can't find evidence of fraud or intimidation, accuse people of it anyway." Never mind that the counties which went heavily Kerry are all run by Democrats. Up here in the Panhandle we use mark-sense paper ballots, which are easily recounted (either by machine or hand) Thus, you want to now accuse a Democrat Party machine, which ran the election in those counties, of committing fraud for the REPUBLICAN candidate? That stretches credibility just a TINY bit, don't 'ya think? -- Try to think this through, Karl. There's more to Florida than Miami-Dade and Evangelistia, where you live, eh? Anywhere there are receipt-less electronic voting machines in Florida, there are opportunities for fraud. And when the GOP runs the entire state, but for a few counties, the opportunities are substantial. I've posited more than once that federal elections ought to be run by federal officials, on equipment that meets standards and provides both the voter and the counters with hard receipts. Receipt-less electronic voting machines are so much trash. There are electronic machines that generate receipts. You're correct. Now explain why Theresa LaPore, who's a Democrat in a heavily-democratic county, decided to buy and install in her county the machines that do not generate receipts - in the very county where the chad fun was present. PS: The majority of the heavily republican counties in Florida use and have used mark-sense cards with a reader at the point of ballot deposit that will not accept an overvoted ballot. Indeed, its simply amazing - the Democrat counties are the ones who adopted these electronic machines, in the main. Do 'ya think they thought perhaps they could pull some funny bizness - like in Pennsylvania where there were machines in heavily-Democrat counties that STARTED with votes on the tabulators - but it just didn't work out for them? Might be.... Florida is now 88% in, with Bush having a margin of about 250,000 votes. Florida looks pretty safe in Bush's column Harry... the remaining votes would have to break roughly 75% for Kerry for him to win here. Ain't gonna happen. -- Looks like the dumfoch got himself a four-year term to further destroy what was once a great country. -- A Proud Member of the Bush Firing Squad ( ) Bush ( x ) Kerry And the Democratic party and their PR flacks under Clinton and McAuliffe show they picked about the worst candidate they could. When the party loses, why should the same DNC get to stay in charge? They bigger Dumfoch's? |
We moved from Illinois to Florida earlier this year. Did we cause this?
Never mind. Congats to the "red states." "Karl Denninger" wrote in message news:CA_hd.13368$233.13097@okepread05... In article , Harry Krause wrote: Looks like the dumfoch got himself a four-year term to further destroy what was once a great country. Won fair and square Harry.... despite stuffing the tabulators in Ohio, it wasn't enough - and Florida was won DECISIVELY. Looks like Ohio will be as well, with no chance of a recount (you have to be within 1/4 of 1% to get one in Ohio.) NM is nearly certain to go Bush shortly. Nevada may as well; too early to know at this point, but it doesn't matter.... -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
"Karl Denninger" wrote in message news:MuYhd.74464$bk1.47496@fed1read05... In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: In article , Gould 0738 wrote: I agree with both of those sentiments Chuck. It appeared you were basically calling the election for Kerry based on the exit polls. You mixed my comments up with another post to which I was responding. It ain't over yet. May not be over for days, but lets hope the will of the 50 states (the people don't count in this race) is clear by later toninght. I think it will be over later this evening - Florida is now roughly 75% in, including the "big" democrat counties. Ohio is tougher for me, because I don't have nearly as good a "feel" for the county breakdown there. As things sit right now Bush is ahead by close to 200,000 votes - to make up that differential Kerry has a hell of an uphill climb, given that his stronghold counties are either largely or entirely in at this point. The exit polls were pretty clearly wrong. -- Probably not. My guess is that "adjustments" were made on the receipt-less electronic voting machines in Florida and Ohio. Of course, with no paper trail, how would one prove this? How convenient. Right out of the Democrat Party playbook. "Even if you can't find evidence of fraud or intimidation, accuse people of it anyway." Never mind that the counties which went heavily Kerry are all run by Democrats. Up here in the Panhandle we use mark-sense paper ballots, which are easily recounted (either by machine or hand) Thus, you want to now accuse a Democrat Party machine, which ran the election in those counties, of committing fraud for the REPUBLICAN candidate? That stretches credibility just a TINY bit, don't 'ya think? poor harry.......just another union thug loser........ The early exit polls were flawed because they were too heavily weighted with women voters. -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
Oops. Bush is winning FL, the popular vote, and probably OH and the
presidency as of 0037 CST. Like you're influencing the vote. -- Keith __ "If you had to identify in a word, the reason why the human race has not achieved and never will achieve its full potential, that word would be "meetings." - Dave Barry "F330 GT" wrote in message ... F330 GT wrote: Tradesports Interactive now shows Bush pres @ 38, Kerry pres @ 62.4 a change of 15 points in the last few hours. Bush winning popular vote @ 25.1. Kerry wins popular vote @ 54.6. Follow the money.... The bettors know. Barry Oh, come on...I didn't get to vote that many times. Seriously, even the exit polling data spilling about is too preliminary for anyone to determine anything. -- You're probably right but the signs are looking real good. This site is a real time market for trading and as such is as close to a real time poll as you can get. Bush is dropping like a rock. He's now as 28 with Kerry at 71 to win. He's also falling fast in the Florida race, the Ohio race and the popular vote. It's not going to be as close as a lot of people think, if this proves true. Which, I hope it is. Check out: www.tradesports.com Barry |
Why are the GOP red and the DNC blue anyway??? Any history on this?
And if so... I wanna see the Dem's in blue ties and the Rep's in red ties. Enough issues to confuse, without using counterfeit ties. :) -W "lobo99" wrote in message news:dI_hd.457203$mD.25244@attbi_s02... We moved from Illinois to Florida earlier this year. Did we cause this? Never mind. Congats to the "red states." "Karl Denninger" wrote in message news:CA_hd.13368$233.13097@okepread05... In article , Harry Krause wrote: Looks like the dumfoch got himself a four-year term to further destroy what was once a great country. Won fair and square Harry.... despite stuffing the tabulators in Ohio, it wasn't enough - and Florida was won DECISIVELY. Looks like Ohio will be as well, with no chance of a recount (you have to be within 1/4 of 1% to get one in Ohio.) NM is nearly certain to go Bush shortly. Nevada may as well; too early to know at this point, but it doesn't matter.... -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
No! Don't vote for Kerry!
-- Keith __ Money can't buy you happiness, but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery. -Spike Milligan "Don White" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... And that qualifies him as being a capable candidate for POTUS to you? You're probably right...better to vote for a boozing slacker. |
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 06:37:46 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote: Why are the GOP red and the DNC blue anyway??? Any history on this? Yes. As to it's political significance, I'm pretty sure it goes along the lines of red is a male dominate color (as in fire, blood, hunting, etc.) and blue is a feminine color (as in the color of depth for instance and in Egyptology, the color most associated with Amun and in Christian doctrine, St. Mary). Which, if broken down, red is a more aggressive color which can be viewed as a negative and blue is a more positive color which can be viewed as a positive. From that point you can probably extrapolate why the colors were used by the nets for thief graphics. [1] TTFN, Tom "Bodies are for hookers and fat people." Bender - "Futurama" [1] I always knew that psychology class would pay off - I just didn't think it would take 40 FREAKIN' YEARS!!!! :) |
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 01:36:53 GMT, "Don White"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message snip For the record, I didn't vote for President as it's a foregone conclusion here in CT for one and I just couldn't bring myself to vote for either of the two goons running. Voted for all the other offices though. Why didn't you support Ralph. After all, he warned us about the Corvair. Let you in on a little secret - Nader couldn't be elected Dog Catcher in his home town of Winstead. :) And I had a Corvair in high school - I lived through it. :) And it was a TURBO Corvair to boot. Take care. Tom "The beatings will stop when morale improves." E. Teach, 1717 |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... And that qualifies him as being a capable candidate for POTUS to you? You're probably right...better to vote for a boozing slacker. You are an idiot Don. |
In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: In article , Harry Krause wrote: Looks like the dumfoch got himself a four-year term to further destroy what was once a great country. Won fair and square Harry.... despite stuffing the tabulators in Ohio, it wasn't enough - and Florida was won DECISIVELY. Karl...I wouldn't take your word on change from a dollar. Oh c'mon Harry. The sKerry whine machine is out in full force this morning. He's down 135,000 votes, there are only 135,000 provisional ballots in Ohio, and he's still not conceding. Give me a break. KERRY LOST! Even assuming the provisions break 2:1 for him (unlikely), he STILL loses. He'd had to win EVERY provisional and EVERY absentee to win - it ain't gonna happen. Crybaby 2000 all over again, but this time he not only lost, he lost DECISIVELY. Besides the loss in the White House, the Republicans won in BOTH the House and Senate, including a CRUSHING blow in South Dakota with Daschle being sent home. It is entirely reasonable to conclude that the voters punished the Gore whine-babys for their 2000 games and the last 4 years of their obstructionism. If Kerry plays this game he will DESTROY the Democratic party and in '06 there will be a 60-seat Senate Majority. THEN the Democrats are doomed. But we KNEW he wouldn't accept the results of the election, didn't we? -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
"Karl Denninger" wrote in message news:Nm5id.13400$233.6447@okepread05... In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: In article , Harry Krause wrote: Looks like the dumfoch got himself a four-year term to further destroy what was once a great country. Won fair and square Harry.... despite stuffing the tabulators in Ohio, it wasn't enough - and Florida was won DECISIVELY. Karl...I wouldn't take your word on change from a dollar. Oh c'mon Harry. The sKerry whine machine is out in full force this morning. He's down 135,000 votes, there are only 135,000 provisional ballots in Ohio, and he's still not conceding. Give me a break. KERRY LOST! Even assuming the provisions break 2:1 for him (unlikely), he STILL loses. He'd had to win EVERY provisional and EVERY absentee to win - it ain't gonna happen. Crybaby 2000 all over again, but this time he not only lost, he lost DECISIVELY. Besides the loss in the White House, the Republicans won in BOTH the House and Senate, including a CRUSHING blow in South Dakota with Daschle being sent home. It is entirely reasonable to conclude that the voters punished the Gore whine-babys for their 2000 games and the last 4 years of their obstructionism. If Kerry plays this game he will DESTROY the Democratic party and in '06 there will be a 60-seat Senate Majority. THEN the Democrats are doomed. But we KNEW he wouldn't accept the results of the election, didn't we? -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
"Karl Denninger" wrote in message news:Nm5id.13400$233.6447@okepread05... In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: In article , Harry Krause wrote: Looks like the dumfoch got himself a four-year term to further destroy what was once a great country. Won fair and square Harry.... despite stuffing the tabulators in Ohio, it wasn't enough - and Florida was won DECISIVELY. Karl...I wouldn't take your word on change from a dollar. Oh c'mon Harry. The sKerry whine machine is out in full force this morning. He's down 135,000 votes, there are only 135,000 provisional ballots in Ohio, and he's still not conceding. Give me a break. KERRY LOST! Even assuming the provisions break 2:1 for him (unlikely), he STILL loses. He'd had to win EVERY provisional and EVERY absentee to win - it ain't gonna happen. Crybaby 2000 all over again, but this time he not only lost, he lost DECISIVELY. Besides the loss in the White House, the Republicans won in BOTH the House and Senate, including a CRUSHING blow in South Dakota with Daschle being sent home. It is entirely reasonable to conclude that the voters punished the Gore whine-babys for their 2000 games and the last 4 years of their obstructionism. If Kerry plays this game he will DESTROY the Democratic party and in '06 there will be a 60-seat Senate Majority. THEN the Democrats are doomed. But we KNEW he wouldn't accept the results of the election, didn't we? -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind With a Guiliani/Powell ticket in 2008 the future of the Dems is bleak. |
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In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: In article , Harry Krause wrote: Looks like the dumfoch got himself a four-year term to further destroy what was once a great country. Won fair and square Harry.... despite stuffing the tabulators in Ohio, it wasn't enough - and Florida was won DECISIVELY. Karl...I wouldn't take your word on change from a dollar. Oh c'mon Harry. The sKerry whine machine is out in full force this morning. He's down 135,000 votes, there are only 135,000 provisional ballots in Ohio, and he's still not conceding. Give me a break. KERRY LOST! Even assuming the provisions break 2:1 for him (unlikely), he STILL loses. He'd had to win EVERY provisional and EVERY absentee to win - it ain't gonna happen. As I said, Karl, I wouldn't take your word on change from a dollar. That has nothing to do with Kerry's loss. No grace in defeat eh Harry? Let's be honest here, shall we? Bush got a majority of the popular vote. Clinton never managed that. Bush's party kicked Daschle out of the Senate. Clinton never managed to do anything like that at the ballot box. The Republicans picked up BOTH senate and house seats. Again, Clinton never managed any such thing. The bottom line is that the Democrats lost - and lost BADLY. The people have spoken. Send Michael Moore, Howard Dean and their brand of radical stupidity HOME, and the Democrat party has a chance to regain relevance. Keep up what you guys did this time, and next election the Republicans will have a 60-seat Senate majority - then the Democrats may as well fold the party entirely. It has to do with my belief that while you are a bright guy, you are slime. My reasons for feeling that way are known to you and have nothing to do with your political party of choice, although that is a symptom of your problem. Yeah, yeah. Can't respond to the points on the table, so you launch personal attacks. What else is new? -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
"Karl Denninger" wrote in message news:iU5id.3791 Bush got a majority of the popular vote. Clinton never managed that. Bush's party kicked Daschle out of the Senate. Clinton never managed to do anything like that at the ballot box. The Republicans picked up BOTH senate and house seats. Again, Clinton never managed any such thing. The bottom line is that the Democrats lost - and lost BADLY. The people have spoken. Send Michael Moore, Howard Dean and their brand of radical stupidity HOME, and the Democrat party has a chance to regain relevance. Keep up what you guys did this time, and next election the Republicans will have a 60-seat Senate majority - then the Democrats may as well fold the party entirely. Unfortunately he's correct here.... the backlash here in rec.boats is symptomatic of the entire country. Angry, hatefull, whining, democrats **can't** win. The party used to mean a lot more than "opposition". They didn't adress the real issues this round - and God knows there were plenty of good holes to attack from. The politics of insult and hate will always fail. As was proven in SD. -W |
Harry Krause wrote: Tell me, Karl, are you still helping husbands who want to dump their wives and kids minimize their spousal support and child support payments? How about Karl explains this right after you explain why your own children are estranged from you? What did you do to their mother that caused your children essentially disown you as their father? -- Charlie |
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