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POLITICAL POINTS
Secret Weapon for Bush?
By JOHN TIERNEY

To Bush-bashers, it may be the most infuriating revelation yet from
the
military records of the two presidential candidates: the young George
W.
Bush probably had a higher I.Q. than did the young John Kerry.

That, at least, is the conclusion of Steve Sailer, a conservative
columnist
at the Web magazine Vdare.com and a veteran student of presidential
I.Q.'s.
During the last presidential campaign Mr. Sailer estimated from Mr.
Bush's
SAT score (1206) that his I.Q. was in the mid-120's, about 10 points
lower
than Al Gore's.

Mr. Kerry's SAT score is not known, but now Mr. Sailer has done a
comparison
of the intelligence tests in the candidates' military records. They
are
not
formal I.Q. tests, but Mr. Sailer says they are similar enough to
make
reasonable extrapolations.

Mr. Bush's score on the a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=air%20force"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=air%20force"
onmouseover="window.status='Air Force'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"Air Force/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"Air Force/a Officer
Qualifying Test at age 22 again
suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about
the
95th
percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's
I.Q.
was
about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's
extrapolation
of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test.

Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware,
called
it a
creditable analysis said she was not surprised at the results or that
so
many people had assumed that Mr. Kerry was smarter. "People will
often
be
misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something
complicated
they can't understand," Professor Gottfredson said.



http://www.nytimes.com/pages/politics/trail/

That's odd, the study below seems just as plausible, and puts Bush
quite a bit lower:
WASHINGTON --In a report published Monday, the Lovenstein Institute

I knew that you'd be stupid enough to post that, so I intentionally
snipped the following part of the NY Times article just to make you
look
stupid. Congratulations for coming through as expected.



"Many Americans still believe a report that began circulating on the
Internet three years ago, and was quoted in "Doonesbury," that Mr.
Bush's
I.Q. was 91, the lowest of any modern American president. But that
report
from the non-existent Lovenstein Institute turned out to be a hoax."





That's our Bassy. ;-)

Uh, you can believe what you want, Jimmy, but it's a hoax only in the
minds of you right wing goose steppers. The folks in Germany during
Hitler's reign, for the most part, were the same, they'd never believe
their leader to be anything short of miraculous.

Did you miss this part: "...*non-existent* Lovenstein Institute "

Not a hoax? So then where's the Lovenstein Institute located?

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POLITICAL POINTS
Secret Weapon for Bush?
By JOHN TIERNEY

To Bush-bashers, it may be the most infuriating revelation yet from the
military records of the two presidential candidates: the young George W.
Bush probably had a higher I.Q. than did the young John Kerry.

That, at least, is the conclusion of Steve Sailer, a conservative
columnist
at the Web magazine Vdare.com and a veteran student of presidential
I.Q.'s.
During the last presidential campaign Mr. Sailer estimated from Mr.
Bush's
SAT score (1206) that his I.Q. was in the mid-120's, about 10 points
lower
than Al Gore's.

Mr. Kerry's SAT score is not known, but now Mr. Sailer has done a
comparison
of the intelligence tests in the candidates' military records. They are
not
formal I.Q. tests, but Mr. Sailer says they are similar enough to make
reasonable extrapolations.

Mr. Bush's score on the a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=air%20force"
onmouseover="window.status='a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=air%20force" onmouseover="window.status='Air Force'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"Air Force/a'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"Air Force/a Officer
Qualifying Test at age 22 again
suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about the
95th
percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's I.Q.
was
about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's
extrapolation
of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test.

Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware, called
it a
creditable analysis said she was not surprised at the results or that so
many people had assumed that Mr. Kerry was smarter. "People will often be
misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated
they can't understand," Professor Gottfredson said.



http://www.nytimes.com/pages/politics/trail/

That's odd, the study below seems just as plausible, and puts Bush
quite a bit lower:
WASHINGTON --In a report published Monday, the Lovenstein Institute

I knew that you'd be stupid enough to post that, so I intentionally snipped
the following part of the NY Times article just to make you look stupid.
Congratulations for coming through as expected.



"Many Americans still believe a report that began circulating on the
Internet three years ago, and was quoted in "Doonesbury," that Mr. Bush's
I.Q. was 91, the lowest of any modern American president. But that report
from the non-existent Lovenstein Institute turned out to be a hoax."

And I knew you'd be stupid enough, or at least goose-stepper to the
party enough, that you'd not understand what you've read. Go he

http://www.lovenstein.org

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POLITICAL POINTS
Secret Weapon for Bush?
By JOHN TIERNEY

To Bush-bashers, it may be the most infuriating revelation yet from
the
military records of the two presidential candidates: the young George
W.
Bush probably had a higher I.Q. than did the young John Kerry.

That, at least, is the conclusion of Steve Sailer, a conservative
columnist
at the Web magazine Vdare.com and a veteran student of presidential
I.Q.'s.
During the last presidential campaign Mr. Sailer estimated from Mr.
Bush's
SAT score (1206) that his I.Q. was in the mid-120's, about 10 points
lower
than Al Gore's.

Mr. Kerry's SAT score is not known, but now Mr. Sailer has done a
comparison
of the intelligence tests in the candidates' military records. They
are
not
formal I.Q. tests, but Mr. Sailer says they are similar enough to make
reasonable extrapolations.

Mr. Bush's score on the a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=air%20force"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=air%20force"
onmouseover="window.status='Air Force'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"Air Force/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"Air Force/a Officer
Qualifying Test at age 22 again
suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about the
95th
percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's
I.Q.
was
about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's
extrapolation
of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test.

Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware,
called
it a
creditable analysis said she was not surprised at the results or that
so
many people had assumed that Mr. Kerry was smarter. "People will often
be
misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something
complicated
they can't understand," Professor Gottfredson said.



http://www.nytimes.com/pages/politics/trail/

That's odd, the study below seems just as plausible, and puts Bush
quite a bit lower:
WASHINGTON --In a report published Monday, the Lovenstein Institute

I knew that you'd be stupid enough to post that, so I intentionally
snipped
the following part of the NY Times article just to make you look stupid.
Congratulations for coming through as expected.



"Many Americans still believe a report that began circulating on the
Internet three years ago, and was quoted in "Doonesbury," that Mr. Bush's
I.Q. was 91, the lowest of any modern American president. But that report
from the non-existent Lovenstein Institute turned out to be a hoax."

And I knew you'd be stupid enough, or at least goose-stepper to the
party enough, that you'd not understand what you've read. Go he

http://www.lovenstein.org

http://urbanlegends.about.com/b/a/106301.htm

You are officially "King of the Dip****s"

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And I knew you'd be stupid enough, or at least goose-stepper to the
party enough, that you'd not understand what you've read. Go he

http://www.lovenstein.org

God, you must have grown up never having been trained in the use of vacuum
cleaners, you get sucked in so regularly. That is no legitimate site. They
claim to be a "...think tank employing high caliber historians,
psychiatrists, sociologists, scientists in human behavior, and
psychologists. Among their ranks are Dr. Werner R. Lovenstein,
world-renowned sociologist, and Professor Patricia F. Dilliams, a
world-respected psychiatrist."

And yet, their featured piece is written only to a ninth-grade level, and
rather poorly at that.

Note their disclaimers -- "... Copyrighted material used on Lovenstein.org
may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright owner.. "

In other words, they just steal stuff from other sites, or just make it up.

This is nothing more than yet another batch of anti-Bush brain vomit.

Now, you go check out urbanlegends.about.com/library/bliq-bush.htm

And please, ---- don't come back with the old "... I knew it was phony all
along..." line.

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"basskisser" wrote in message

And I knew you'd be stupid enough, or at least goose-stepper to the
party enough, that you'd not understand what you've read. Go he

http://www.lovenstein.org

God, you must have grown up never having been trained in the use of vacuum
cleaners, you get sucked in so regularly.

He just can't see throught the 'brown fog' where his head is at.


That is no legitimate site. They
claim to be a "...think tank employing high caliber historians,
psychiatrists, sociologists, scientists in human behavior, and
psychologists. Among their ranks are Dr. Werner R. Lovenstein,
world-renowned sociologist, and Professor Patricia F. Dilliams, a
world-respected psychiatrist."

And yet, their featured piece is written only to a ninth-grade level, and
rather poorly at that.

Note their disclaimers -- "... Copyrighted material used on Lovenstein.org
may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright owner.. "

In other words, they just steal stuff from other sites, or just make it
up.

This is nothing more than yet another batch of anti-Bush brain vomit.

Now, you go check out urbanlegends.about.com/library/bliq-bush.htm

And please, ---- don't come back with the old "... I knew it was phony all
along..." line.

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POLITICAL POINTS
Secret Weapon for Bush?
By JOHN TIERNEY

To Bush-bashers, it may be the most infuriating revelation yet from the
military records of the two presidential candidates: the young George W.
Bush probably had a higher I.Q. than did the young John Kerry.

That, at least, is the conclusion of Steve Sailer, a conservative
columnist
at the Web magazine Vdare.com and a veteran student of presidential
I.Q.'s.
During the last presidential campaign Mr. Sailer estimated from Mr.
Bush's
SAT score (1206) that his I.Q. was in the mid-120's, about 10 points
lower
than Al Gore's.

Mr. Kerry's SAT score is not known, but now Mr. Sailer has done a
comparison
of the intelligence tests in the candidates' military records. They are
not
formal I.Q. tests, but Mr. Sailer says they are similar enough to make
reasonable extrapolations.

Mr. Bush's score on the a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=air%20force"
onmouseover="window.status='a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=air%20force" onmouseover="window.status='Air Force'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"Air Force/a'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"Air Force/a Officer
Qualifying Test at age 22 again
suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about the
95th
percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's I.Q.
was
about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's
extrapolation
of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test.

Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware, called
it a
creditable analysis said she was not surprised at the results or that so
many people had assumed that Mr. Kerry was smarter. "People will often be
misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated
they can't understand," Professor Gottfredson said.



http://www.nytimes.com/pages/politics/trail/

That's odd, the study below seems just as plausible, and puts Bush
quite a bit lower:
WASHINGTON --In a report published Monday, the Lovenstein Institute

I knew that you'd be stupid enough to post that, so I intentionally snipped
the following part of the NY Times article just to make you look stupid.
Congratulations for coming through as expected.



"Many Americans still believe a report that began circulating on the
Internet three years ago, and was quoted in "Doonesbury," that Mr. Bush's
I.Q. was 91, the lowest of any modern American president. But that report
from the non-existent Lovenstein Institute turned out to be a hoax."

And I knew you'd be stupid enough, or at least goose-stepper to the
party enough, that you'd not understand what you've read. Go he

http://www.lovenstein.org

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm

Claim: According to a study by the Lovenstein Institute, President
Bush has the lowest IQ of all presidents of past 50 years.
Status: False.


Origins: No,
this isn't a real news report, nor does it describe a real study.
There isn't a "Lovenstein Institute" in Scranton, Pennsylvania (or
anywhere else in the USA), nor do any of the people quoted in the
story exist, because this is just another spoof that was taken too
seriously.

The article quoted above began circulating on the Internet during the
summer of 2001. In furtherance of the hoax, later that year pranksters
thought to register www.lovenstein.org and erecting a web site around
it in an attempt to fool people into thinking there really was such an
institute.

Gosh...I've been promoted to Major Exception!
Do I get a chevron or something?



With a little luck and hard work, I believe a Major Exception can be promoted
to a General Exception. :-)

Why are you conversing with a dirtbag like Smythe?

I'm a liberal, Harry. There are no dirtbags.Feeling self righteous or superior
to others isn't what liberalism is about. IMO. While there are no dirtbags,
there are some less enlightened folks with a few personal quirks, but then
again we all bear some sort of burden, right?