"Jon Smithe" wrote in message news:99Cdd.162821$He1.96887@attbi_s01...
"Harry Krause" piedtypecase@a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=yahoo%20com" onmouseover="window.status='yahoo.com'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"yahoo.com/a wrote in message
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Perhaps you'll splash some oxalic acid in your eyes, John...then you can
sell your boat and get yourself a seeing-eye dog.

Aren't you sweet.

Anyone who is stupid enough to use oxalic acid without eye protection,
even after being warned not to, perhaps needs to find out why he was
warned. Here is a statement from a source for buying Oxalic acid:
Warning: Oxalic Acid is still and acid and should be treated with
respect, do not be lulled into complacency.
In its purified form, oxalic acid is a highly corrosive and toxic
substance.
Latex gloves should be worn at all times when using it and it should
always be mixed and used in a well-ventilated area.
The gasses given off are dangerous and have been suspected by some in
causing health problems.
Always protect your skin,wear a dust mask when mixing ANY powder, eye
protection is a must and whenever I am fooling around with chemicals I
always have a supply of fresh water available for flushing off spills.
If swallowed, give plenty of milk or water, preferably water. Do not
induce vomiting. Contact a poison control hotline. If inhaled take a
break and get some fresh air. If the nausea or headache persists,
contact the poison control hotline. Used Oxalic Acid should be
considered hazardous waste and should be disposed of properly.

"basskisser" wrote
Anyone who is stupid enough to use oxalic acid without
eye protection, even after being warned not to, perhaps
needs to find out why he was warned.

We could argue this until the end of time, but like I tried to say back up
the thread somewhere, I don't use protective gear with OA, but I'm not
saying nobody should. If you prefer to play it safe, by all means do so. I
have no intention of arguing against safety.

Here is a statement from a source for buying Oxalic acid:

Here's the MSDS for the product I use:
http://www.savogran.com/Information/Wood_Bleach_MS.pdf
About halfway down it lists the health risks. Short contact with skin
appears to be safe, but prolonged exposure can give you anything from
irritation to burns. Eye contact will give you severe irritation and "may
cause transient injury to the cornea," whatever that means.

Anybody using OA should take appropriate precautions to avoid those last
couple things because even a mild or transient injury is still not something
you ought to shoot for. What's appropriate in the precaution department is
really what we're all disagreeing about and I kind of see it as being up to
the individual to decide what constitutes an acceptable level of safety. My
idea of taking appropriate precautions is to avoid squirting the stuff on
myself. Yours may be to add the extra insurance of goggles and gloves.
Somebody more cautious might prefer to avoid using OA altogether. Maybe I'm
too complacent, but I see similar warnings on lighter fluid and super glue
and I don't use goggles or gloves with those, either. Maybe I'll be sorry
some day. If you don't want to be like me, by all means do what you think is
best.

don't con fuze de idgits withen dem facts, Joe. theys gits demselfs panties
ins a twist dat way.

From: "Joe Blizzard"
Date: 10/21/2004 10:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

"basskisser" wrote
Anyone who is stupid enough to use oxalic acid without
eye protection, even after being warned not to, perhaps
needs to find out why he was warned.

We could argue this until the end of time, but like I tried to say back up
the thread somewhere, I don't use protective gear with OA, but I'm not
saying nobody should. If you prefer to play it safe, by all means do so. I
have no intention of arguing against safety.

Here is a statement from a source for buying Oxalic acid:

Here's the MSDS for the product I use:
http://www.savogran.com/Information/Wood_Bleach_MS.pdf
About halfway down it lists the health risks. Short contact with skin
appears to be safe, but prolonged exposure can give you anything from
irritation to burns. Eye contact will give you severe irritation and "may
cause transient injury to the cornea," whatever that means.

Anybody using OA should take appropriate precautions to avoid those last
couple things because even a mild or transient injury is still not something
you ought to shoot for. What's appropriate in the precaution department is
really what we're all disagreeing about and I kind of see it as being up to
the individual to decide what constitutes an acceptable level of safety. My
idea of taking appropriate precautions is to avoid squirting the stuff on
myself. Yours may be to add the extra insurance of goggles and gloves.
Somebody more cautious might prefer to avoid using OA altogether. Maybe I'm
too complacent, but I see similar warnings on lighter fluid and super glue
and I don't use goggles or gloves with those, either. Maybe I'll be sorry
some day. If you don't want to be like me, by all means do what you think is
best.

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
don't con fuze de idgits withen dem facts, Joe. theys gits demselfs panties
ins a twist dat way.

Well, it confused YOU....*I* posted the facts.......idiot.

From: "Joe Blizzard"
Date: 10/21/2004 10:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

"basskisser" wrote
Anyone who is stupid enough to use oxalic acid without
eye protection, even after being warned not to, perhaps
needs to find out why he was warned.

We could argue this until the end of time, but like I tried to say back up
the thread somewhere, I don't use protective gear with OA, but I'm not
saying nobody should. If you prefer to play it safe, by all means do so. I
have no intention of arguing against safety.

Here is a statement from a source for buying Oxalic acid:

Here's the MSDS for the product I use:
http://www.savogran.com/Information/Wood_Bleach_MS.pdf
About halfway down it lists the health risks. Short contact with skin
appears to be safe, but prolonged exposure can give you anything from
irritation to burns. Eye contact will give you severe irritation and "may
cause transient injury to the cornea," whatever that means.

Anybody using OA should take appropriate precautions to avoid those last
couple things because even a mild or transient injury is still not something
you ought to shoot for. What's appropriate in the precaution department is
really what we're all disagreeing about and I kind of see it as being up to
the individual to decide what constitutes an acceptable level of safety. My
idea of taking appropriate precautions is to avoid squirting the stuff on
myself. Yours may be to add the extra insurance of goggles and gloves.
Somebody more cautious might prefer to avoid using OA altogether. Maybe I'm
too complacent, but I see similar warnings on a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=lighter%20fluid" onmouseover="window.status='lighter fluid'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"lighter fluid/a and super glue
and I don't use goggles or gloves with those, either. Maybe I'll be sorry
some day. If you don't want to be like me, by all means do what you think is
best.

yeah, that's wood bleach for you. sold in your local, friendly hardware store.
even you idiots are allowed to buy that incrediby dangeorous stuff.

From: (basskisser)
Date: 10/21/2004 8:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
news:99Cdd.162821$He1.96887@attbi_s01...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Perhaps you'll splash some oxalic acid in your eyes, John...then you can
sell your boat and get yourself a seeing-eye dog.

Aren't you sweet.

Anyone who is stupid enough to use oxalic acid without eye protection,
even after being warned not to, perhaps needs to find out why he was
warned. Here is a statement from a source for buying Oxalic acid:
Warning: Oxalic Acid is still and acid and should be treated with
respect, do not be lulled into complacency.
In its purified form, oxalic acid is a highly corrosive and toxic
substance.
Latex gloves should be worn at all times when using it and it should
always be mixed and used in a well-ventilated area.
The gasses given off are dangerous and have been suspected by some in
causing health problems.
Always protect your skin,wear a dust mask when mixing ANY powder, eye
protection is a must and whenever I am fooling around with chemicals I
always have a supply of fresh water available for flushing off spills.
If swallowed, give plenty of milk or water, preferably water. Do not
induce vomiting. Contact a poison control hotline. If inhaled take a
break and get some fresh air. If the nausea or headache persists,
contact the poison control hotline. Used Oxalic Acid should be
considered hazardous waste and should be disposed of properly.