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Gary Warner October 18th 04 07:48 AM


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

The fact is that the support for Kerry is shallow, more "anti Bush" than
"pro Kerry" In past elections, the turn out is usually less when there

is
not the energy "for" a candidate. On the other hand, Bush's support is
quite strong.


Past elections don't mean a whole lot. I agree that normall when people are
not
"for" a candidate they stay home. But this year that are a lot of people
that
will go to the polls to get Bush out even if they aren't "for" Kerry.
And yes, I'll freely admit that there are many Bush supporters, and
many that will be energized to vote for him.

Actually, on second thought, you are absolutly correct, Bush's support IS
quite strong,
no need for you to go vote whatsoever.



Which is probably why the dems are reving up the 'suppressed vote" lie

and
mobilizing the trial lawyers.


Not that the professional & armchair dems don't spread crap too, but I kinda
figured we could *all* get behind the idea that everyone that is eligable
and wants
to should be able to vote and have it counted. After the fiasco of hanging
chads
in Florida - which was a disaster as far as counting every person's vote, no
matter what side you were one - I really would hope everyone could get
behind
efforts to make the vote safe. But whenever a person mentions efforts to
make
all the votes count correctly I see the responce of "oh, it's just a big lie
so when
the Dems loose...."




Jelle October 18th 04 12:31 PM

Harry Krause wrote:

[...ot...]
What I am woondering: Last time when babybush stole the election, protestors
only yelled nasty words at him. This time will they shoot him, when/if he
does it again? I'd hate to see Babybush erected as an Icon next to Kennedy,
but I will surely smile if that retarded minor is executed.

So, that will make me lots of friends ;-)

--
vriendelijke groeten/kind regards,

Jelle

begin msblaster.pif

NOYB October 18th 04 03:36 PM





"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:38:17 -0400, NOYB wrote:


In 1992, Clinton garnered only 43% of the vote. It's pathetic that a
President can be elected with such a low percentage of the population
supporting him. There was plenty of anti-Bush sentiment that year, but I
doubt many of the Perot supporters would have cast their votes for
Clinton
if Perot wasn't in the race. Most would have either stayed home, or
voted
for Bush as the lesser of two evils (at least in their minds). This
year,
there is no viable alternative to the incumbent...and Kerry hasn't done
anything to help his own chances. I still predict a Bush win by 4 to 6
percentage points.


Well, I see even you think the race is getting closer. Your prediction is
down from a 5-7% landslide. ;-)


LOL. Yup. If it's 4% or 7%, I guess I look like the dummy. But I can
always hold out hope that it's 5 or 6%...and then I can brag that I've been
right all along.





http://www.google.com/groups?q=lands...ink.net&rnum=2

Still, my guess is it's going to be considerable closer. Close enough
that we may not know the winner on Nov. 3.


Due to the provisional ballots, it doesn't have to be very close at all for
us to still not know the winner on Nov. 3rd. Somebody could win Ohio by
40,000 votes, and if there are 50,000 provisional ballots to be counted,
the provisional ballot lawsuits could keep the results in limbo for quite
awhile.

I think the provisional ballots are absurd...particularly if you request one
because you "forgot to register". If you have a current valid voter
registration card and a picture ID, and you show up at the correct polling
booth, there should be no need for a provisional ballot.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...-ballots_x.htm


NOYB October 18th 04 03:46 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message


Do either of you guys live in a Battleground state? If not, then the
opinions of people you know in those states do not matter. There are
three
people in my office (plus their spouses) who didn't vote for Bush in
2000.
All have stated that they will be supporting him this year.


They're hoping by saying that you'll stop pestering them.


Maybe. Of course,just to be sure that they don't vote for Kerry, then I'm
dropping the bomb on November 1st:

"Should *my* taxes go up (which they will) so that Kerry can pay for his
unaffordable, government-run health plan, then I'm dropping our group health
insurance policy (which I pay 85% of) and everybody is on their own. I also
won't be hiring the extra assistant that I usually hire when season
comes...which means we must struggle through our busy time with the people
we currently have, and everybody works that much harder."



That's not a threat. It's a reality. I provide health insurance for my
employees. If Kerry thinks he can provide it for them by hitting me with
higher taxes, then best of luck to him. If he thinks he is able to provide
them with government-controlled health insurance, and he uses my tax money
to do it, then effectively, I'm still paying for their insurance anyhow.




NOYB October 18th 04 04:02 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jelle wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

[...ot...]
What I am woondering: Last time when babybush stole the election,
protestors
only yelled nasty words at him. This time will they shoot him, when/if he
does it again? I'd hate to see Babybush erected as an Icon next to
Kennedy,
but I will surely smile if that retarded minor is executed.

So, that will make me lots of friends ;-)



It's not appropriate to talk or even think about shooting the president.


I suspect ol' jelle should be hearing from the USSS pretty soon.



Jelle October 18th 04 05:43 PM

NOYB wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jelle wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

[...ot...]
What I am woondering: Last time when babybush stole the election,
protestors
only yelled nasty words at him. This time will they shoot him, when/if
he does it again? I'd hate to see Babybush erected as an Icon next to
Kennedy,
but I will surely smile if that retarded minor is executed.

So, that will make me lots of friends ;-)



It's not appropriate to talk or even think about shooting the president.


I suspect ol' jelle should be hearing from the USSS pretty soon.


And NOYB marked another trait of a facist and opressive regime, I think
Harry was right in that respect.

Where I live the USSS has not much too say luckily, but they are very
welcome to call me. I hear intercontinental rates are pretty low these
days.

--
vriendelijke groeten/kind regards,

Jelle

begin executebushprogram.exe

NOYB October 18th 04 05:54 PM


"Jelle" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jelle wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

[...ot...]
What I am woondering: Last time when babybush stole the election,
protestors
only yelled nasty words at him. This time will they shoot him, when/if
he does it again? I'd hate to see Babybush erected as an Icon next to
Kennedy,
but I will surely smile if that retarded minor is executed.

So, that will make me lots of friends ;-)



It's not appropriate to talk or even think about shooting the president.


I suspect ol' jelle should be hearing from the USSS pretty soon.


And NOYB marked another trait of a facist and opressive regime, I think
Harry was right in that respect.

Where I live the USSS has not much too say luckily, but they are very
welcome to call me.


And I'm sure they will.



Gould 0738 October 18th 04 05:55 PM

Where I live the USSS has not much too say luckily, but they are very
welcome to call me. I hear intercontinental rates are pretty low these
days.

--
vriendelijke groeten/kind regards,

Jelle

begin executebushprogram.exe


You don't get it, Jelle. The USSS won't even be involved. If you live, you'll
be bedmates with a sweaty, 300-pound "terrorist" gangster down in Guantanamo.

NOYB October 18th 04 06:19 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Where I live the USSS has not much too say luckily, but they are very
welcome to call me. I hear intercontinental rates are pretty low these
days.

--
vriendelijke groeten/kind regards,

Jelle

begin executebushprogram.exe


You don't get it, Jelle. The USSS won't even be involved. If you live,
you'll
be bedmates with a sweaty, 300-pound "terrorist" gangster down in
Guantanamo.


....naked, with a leash around your neck.



Jelle October 18th 04 07:34 PM

NOYB wrote:

[...]
begin executebushprogram.txt

to start the bush program type ./bush --steal=election
to stop it type killall -9 bush


You don't get it, Jelle. The USSS won't even be involved. If you live,
you'll
be bedmates with a sweaty, 300-pound "terrorist" gangster down in
Guantanamo.

Yeah now that you mention it, these kinds of violations of the Geneva
convention (as going on in guantanamo) were not comitted by the european
fascist regimes, so that makes the USA less fascist in fact.

...naked, with a leash around your neck.

And when does this feast begin?
I do love homophobic and sadistic references. After all, what can you
expect when trolling in these waters ;)
Homophobics of the world, united, take cover!

--
vriendelijke groeten/kind regards,

Jelle

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