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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:58:05 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message ... Perhaps he's reacting subconsciously to Bush's repeated claims that we have 60 or 80 in the coalition. Don't ask for a specific number - it's close to one of the numbers I mentioned and it's not important. In terms of large material contribution (relative to the size of each contributor's POTENTIAL contribution), the actual number is closer to 2. If you include any country that's sent more than a dozen humans, it's what....maybe a dozen? A dozen is quite a few times more than none. What he's reacting to is the fact that he was wrong (yet again) and can't bring himself to admit he misspoke. And instead of simply saying he misspoke, he'll continue to drag himself down the rabbit hole of stupidity trying to defend a statement that's obviously false. That's his MO. Steve Well, I guess I'm interpreting things my own way: In terms of a military result, it probably didn't matter how many were in the coalition. But, the military result was the easiest part of this mess. The hardest part is still with us, and it really would've helped if we had more than a handful of helpers. The 50-75 countries who've agreed to just keep quiet are basically fluff. Meaningless. Not a coalition. But the 10-15 who are doing more than just keeping quiet are not meaningless. Are we taking the biggest burden? Of course. Are there other nations that are meaningful parts of a coalition? Also, of course. Steve |
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JohnH wrote in message
Then why all the ****in' and moanin'? I believe you misspelled two words. The correct spelling is ****ing, and moaning. See what happens when you start correcting grammer, spelling and syntax, when you can't debate? The thing to do would have, when you couldn't debate anymore, would have been to quit, as opposed to correcting spelling. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... JohnH wrote in message Then why all the ****in' and moanin'? I believe you misspelled two words. The correct spelling is ****ing, and moaning. See what happens when you start correcting grammer, spelling and syntax, when you can't debate? The thing to do would have, when you couldn't debate anymore, would have been to quit, as opposed to correcting spelling. Grammer? Doh! |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:48:04 -0500, JohnH wrote:
On 22 Dec 2003 07:59:46 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: JohnH wrote in message Then why all the ****in' and moanin'? I believe you misspelled two words. The correct spelling is ****ing, and moaning. See what happens when you start correcting grammer, spelling and syntax, when you can't debate? The thing to do would have, when you couldn't debate anymore, would have been to quit, as opposed to correcting spelling. Have you ever heard of a colloquialism? Debate what? Your grammar? Read, please, this sentence: The thing to do would have, when you couldn't debate anymore, would have been to quit, as opposed to correcting spelling. Do you find a boo-boo therein? Also, do you realize you are 'correcting' may grammar using the word 'grammer'? Why don't you just stop? My God, I couldn't take it any more. You're like the Energizer Bunny. John On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD Please change 'may' to 'my'. My May grammar and spelling is much better than my December grammar and spelling! John On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... Also, do you realize you are 'correcting' may grammar using the word 'grammer'? One of the funniest lines of the day! Thanks. |
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On 22 Dec 2003 07:55:42 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 19 Dec 2003 06:17:00 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 18 Dec 2003 10:26:03 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 18 Dec 2003 03:48:25 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:03:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message I'll tell you now. We had NEVER went to war against another country unprovoked, without reason, and without consent of our allies, that is, until now. cough cough vietnam cough cough LOL. He's one of yours. Those LOL's are annoying, and pretty third gradish, to start. Now, I would have thought you were used to people laughing at you by now. Is it about as annoying as you saying republicans shouldn't be allowed to breed? Where have we heard rhetoric like that before? Why from you, of course. And no, me saying republicans shouldn't be allowed to breed is called an OPINION, do you know what that is? Now, those LOL's serve WHAT purpose? Oh, I know, it's so even fools can make a point. If it annoys you, that's purpose enough. Your HEHHEE's don't bother me. It just shows what a lunatic you are. about Vietnam, the reason I don't put it in the same class as this current lie-war we are in is multi-faceted, but to keep it simple, at least we had allies that were in agreement with us. I see. So you're saying that Vietnam is different than Iraq because we didn't have any allies that were in agreement with us, right? Oh, you disagree? So you are saying Vietnam IS just like Iraq? There are many reasons why Vietnam is not just like Iraq. You're just too stupid to point them out. You "reason" that we didn't have any allies is just pure crap. You don't know what you're talking about AT ALL. Now I have to ask ... which one was it that we didn't have any allies that were in agreement with is? We had VERY FEW allies in Iraq, with most of the world either not wanting to get involved, or showing total disdain for us. Our allies to countries ratio for Vietnam was MUCH higher. Ah, I see. You now went from none to VERY FEW allies. Ok, why don't you list all the allies we have providing material support (men, money, whatever) in Iraq vs. all the allies we had providing material support in Vietnam. This should be interesting. Steve Uh, for your information, our Allies in Vietnam OUTNUMBERED U.S. troops in every single year!!!! Bwaaahaaa!!!!! Need proof? No problem! The below website CLEARLY shows that in Vietnam, thanks to South Vietnam, Aust. N.Z., Thailand, Philippines, that the allied troops outnumbered us. Can you say the same about Iraq? Yes, I can. Because if you're including South VietNam as one of the allies in VietNam then I'm including non Baathist Iraq as one of the allies in Iraq. Well, if you can, then DO so. Provide proof. Ok. From http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...iz.html#People the population of Iraq is 24,683,313 (July 2003 est.) That same site used to have political party breakdown but now we have to get it elsewhere. http://english.people.com.cn/200305/...2_116531.shtml says that the total Baath party membership is around 1.5 million members with only a few dozen thousand as full members. I've seen other estimates of around 40,000 full members. But just for the sake of argument, we'll go with the 1.5 million members. That means that 23,183,313 Iraqis are allies of the US in Iraq. Now, do you tink that is more or less than the number of US troops in Iraq? Steve |
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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 22 Dec 2003 07:55:42 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 19 Dec 2003 06:17:00 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 18 Dec 2003 10:26:03 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 18 Dec 2003 03:48:25 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:03:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message I'll tell you now. We had NEVER went to war against another country unprovoked, without reason, and without consent of our allies, that is, until now. cough cough vietnam cough cough LOL. He's one of yours. Those LOL's are annoying, and pretty third gradish, to start. Now, I would have thought you were used to people laughing at you by now. Is it about as annoying as you saying republicans shouldn't be allowed to breed? Where have we heard rhetoric like that before? Why from you, of course. And no, me saying republicans shouldn't be allowed to breed is called an OPINION, do you know what that is? Now, those LOL's serve WHAT purpose? Oh, I know, it's so even fools can make a point. If it annoys you, that's purpose enough. Your HEHHEE's don't bother me. It just shows what a lunatic you are. about Vietnam, the reason I don't put it in the same class as this current lie-war we are in is multi-faceted, but to keep it simple, at least we had allies that were in agreement with us. I see. So you're saying that Vietnam is different than Iraq because we didn't have any allies that were in agreement with us, right? Oh, you disagree? So you are saying Vietnam IS just like Iraq? There are many reasons why Vietnam is not just like Iraq. You're just too stupid to point them out. You "reason" that we didn't have any allies is just pure crap. You don't know what you're talking about AT ALL. Now I have to ask ... which one was it that we didn't have any allies that were in agreement with is? We had VERY FEW allies in Iraq, with most of the world either not wanting to get involved, or showing total disdain for us. Our allies to countries ratio for Vietnam was MUCH higher. Ah, I see. You now went from none to VERY FEW allies. Ok, why don't you list all the allies we have providing material support (men, money, whatever) in Iraq vs. all the allies we had providing material support in Vietnam. This should be interesting. Steve Uh, for your information, our Allies in Vietnam OUTNUMBERED U.S. troops in every single year!!!! Bwaaahaaa!!!!! Need proof? No problem! The below website CLEARLY shows that in Vietnam, thanks to South Vietnam, Aust. N.Z., Thailand, Philippines, that the allied troops outnumbered us. Can you say the same about Iraq? Yes, I can. Because if you're including South VietNam as one of the allies in VietNam then I'm including non Baathist Iraq as one of the allies in Iraq. Well, if you can, then DO so. Provide proof. Ok. From http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...iz.html#People the population of Iraq is 24,683,313 (July 2003 est.) That same site used to have political party breakdown but now we have to get it elsewhere. http://english.people.com.cn/200305/...2_116531.shtml says that the total Baath party membership is around 1.5 million members with only a few dozen thousand as full members. I've seen other estimates of around 40,000 full members. But just for the sake of argument, we'll go with the 1.5 million members. That means that 23,183,313 Iraqis are allies of the US in Iraq. Now, do you tink that is more or less than the number of US troops in Iraq? Steve Uh, how about we, "for argument's sake" use the 40k number? |
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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 22 Dec 2003 07:55:42 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 19 Dec 2003 06:17:00 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 18 Dec 2003 10:26:03 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 18 Dec 2003 03:48:25 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:03:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message I'll tell you now. We had NEVER went to war against another country unprovoked, without reason, and without consent of our allies, that is, until now. cough cough vietnam cough cough LOL. He's one of yours. Those LOL's are annoying, and pretty third gradish, to start. Now, I would have thought you were used to people laughing at you by now. Is it about as annoying as you saying republicans shouldn't be allowed to breed? Where have we heard rhetoric like that before? Why from you, of course. And no, me saying republicans shouldn't be allowed to breed is called an OPINION, do you know what that is? Now, those LOL's serve WHAT purpose? Oh, I know, it's so even fools can make a point. If it annoys you, that's purpose enough. Your HEHHEE's don't bother me. It just shows what a lunatic you are. about Vietnam, the reason I don't put it in the same class as this current lie-war we are in is multi-faceted, but to keep it simple, at least we had allies that were in agreement with us. I see. So you're saying that Vietnam is different than Iraq because we didn't have any allies that were in agreement with us, right? Oh, you disagree? So you are saying Vietnam IS just like Iraq? There are many reasons why Vietnam is not just like Iraq. You're just too stupid to point them out. You "reason" that we didn't have any allies is just pure crap. You don't know what you're talking about AT ALL. Now I have to ask ... which one was it that we didn't have any allies that were in agreement with is? We had VERY FEW allies in Iraq, with most of the world either not wanting to get involved, or showing total disdain for us. Our allies to countries ratio for Vietnam was MUCH higher. Ah, I see. You now went from none to VERY FEW allies. Ok, why don't you list all the allies we have providing material support (men, money, whatever) in Iraq vs. all the allies we had providing material support in Vietnam. This should be interesting. Steve Uh, for your information, our Allies in Vietnam OUTNUMBERED U.S. troops in every single year!!!! Bwaaahaaa!!!!! Need proof? No problem! The below website CLEARLY shows that in Vietnam, thanks to South Vietnam, Aust. N.Z., Thailand, Philippines, that the allied troops outnumbered us. Can you say the same about Iraq? Yes, I can. Because if you're including South VietNam as one of the allies in VietNam then I'm including non Baathist Iraq as one of the allies in Iraq. Well, if you can, then DO so. Provide proof. Ok. From http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...iz.html#People the population of Iraq is 24,683,313 (July 2003 est.) That same site used to have political party breakdown but now we have to get it elsewhere. http://english.people.com.cn/200305/...2_116531.shtml says that the total Baath party membership is around 1.5 million members with only a few dozen thousand as full members. I've seen other estimates of around 40,000 full members. But just for the sake of argument, we'll go with the 1.5 million members. That means that 23,183,313 Iraqis are allies of the US in Iraq. Now, do you tink that is more or less than the number of US troops in Iraq? Steve Now, just what IS that Baath party's army called? You see, you absolutely talking ignorant here, the S.V. was a REAL army. You are making one up from a political party. |
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On 23 Dec 2003 03:49:04 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 22 Dec 2003 07:55:42 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 19 Dec 2003 06:17:00 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 18 Dec 2003 10:26:03 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 18 Dec 2003 03:48:25 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:03:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message I'll tell you now. We had NEVER went to war against another country unprovoked, without reason, and without consent of our allies, that is, until now. cough cough vietnam cough cough LOL. He's one of yours. Those LOL's are annoying, and pretty third gradish, to start. Now, I would have thought you were used to people laughing at you by now. Is it about as annoying as you saying republicans shouldn't be allowed to breed? Where have we heard rhetoric like that before? Why from you, of course. And no, me saying republicans shouldn't be allowed to breed is called an OPINION, do you know what that is? Now, those LOL's serve WHAT purpose? Oh, I know, it's so even fools can make a point. If it annoys you, that's purpose enough. Your HEHHEE's don't bother me. It just shows what a lunatic you are. about Vietnam, the reason I don't put it in the same class as this current lie-war we are in is multi-faceted, but to keep it simple, at least we had allies that were in agreement with us. I see. So you're saying that Vietnam is different than Iraq because we didn't have any allies that were in agreement with us, right? Oh, you disagree? So you are saying Vietnam IS just like Iraq? There are many reasons why Vietnam is not just like Iraq. You're just too stupid to point them out. You "reason" that we didn't have any allies is just pure crap. You don't know what you're talking about AT ALL. Now I have to ask ... which one was it that we didn't have any allies that were in agreement with is? We had VERY FEW allies in Iraq, with most of the world either not wanting to get involved, or showing total disdain for us. Our allies to countries ratio for Vietnam was MUCH higher. Ah, I see. You now went from none to VERY FEW allies. Ok, why don't you list all the allies we have providing material support (men, money, whatever) in Iraq vs. all the allies we had providing material support in Vietnam. This should be interesting. Steve Uh, for your information, our Allies in Vietnam OUTNUMBERED U.S. troops in every single year!!!! Bwaaahaaa!!!!! Need proof? No problem! The below website CLEARLY shows that in Vietnam, thanks to South Vietnam, Aust. N.Z., Thailand, Philippines, that the allied troops outnumbered us. Can you say the same about Iraq? Yes, I can. Because if you're including South VietNam as one of the allies in VietNam then I'm including non Baathist Iraq as one of the allies in Iraq. Well, if you can, then DO so. Provide proof. Ok. From http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...iz.html#People the population of Iraq is 24,683,313 (July 2003 est.) That same site used to have political party breakdown but now we have to get it elsewhere. http://english.people.com.cn/200305/...2_116531.shtml says that the total Baath party membership is around 1.5 million members with only a few dozen thousand as full members. I've seen other estimates of around 40,000 full members. But just for the sake of argument, we'll go with the 1.5 million members. That means that 23,183,313 Iraqis are allies of the US in Iraq. Now, do you tink that is more or less than the number of US troops in Iraq? Steve Uh, how about we, "for argument's sake" use the 40k number? You're too funny! Ok dummy, we'll use the 40k number. That means that 24,543,313 Iraqis are allies of the US in Iraq. Now, do you think that higher number is more or less than the number of US troops in Iraq? Steve |
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On 23 Dec 2003 03:50:55 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 22 Dec 2003 07:55:42 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 19 Dec 2003 06:17:00 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 18 Dec 2003 10:26:03 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 18 Dec 2003 03:48:25 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:03:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message I'll tell you now. We had NEVER went to war against another country unprovoked, without reason, and without consent of our allies, that is, until now. cough cough vietnam cough cough LOL. He's one of yours. Those LOL's are annoying, and pretty third gradish, to start. Now, I would have thought you were used to people laughing at you by now. Is it about as annoying as you saying republicans shouldn't be allowed to breed? Where have we heard rhetoric like that before? Why from you, of course. And no, me saying republicans shouldn't be allowed to breed is called an OPINION, do you know what that is? Now, those LOL's serve WHAT purpose? Oh, I know, it's so even fools can make a point. If it annoys you, that's purpose enough. Your HEHHEE's don't bother me. It just shows what a lunatic you are. about Vietnam, the reason I don't put it in the same class as this current lie-war we are in is multi-faceted, but to keep it simple, at least we had allies that were in agreement with us. I see. So you're saying that Vietnam is different than Iraq because we didn't have any allies that were in agreement with us, right? Oh, you disagree? So you are saying Vietnam IS just like Iraq? There are many reasons why Vietnam is not just like Iraq. You're just too stupid to point them out. You "reason" that we didn't have any allies is just pure crap. You don't know what you're talking about AT ALL. Now I have to ask ... which one was it that we didn't have any allies that were in agreement with is? We had VERY FEW allies in Iraq, with most of the world either not wanting to get involved, or showing total disdain for us. Our allies to countries ratio for Vietnam was MUCH higher. Ah, I see. You now went from none to VERY FEW allies. Ok, why don't you list all the allies we have providing material support (men, money, whatever) in Iraq vs. all the allies we had providing material support in Vietnam. This should be interesting. Steve Uh, for your information, our Allies in Vietnam OUTNUMBERED U.S. troops in every single year!!!! Bwaaahaaa!!!!! Need proof? No problem! The below website CLEARLY shows that in Vietnam, thanks to South Vietnam, Aust. N.Z., Thailand, Philippines, that the allied troops outnumbered us. Can you say the same about Iraq? Yes, I can. Because if you're including South VietNam as one of the allies in VietNam then I'm including non Baathist Iraq as one of the allies in Iraq. Well, if you can, then DO so. Provide proof. Ok. From http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...iz.html#People the population of Iraq is 24,683,313 (July 2003 est.) That same site used to have political party breakdown but now we have to get it elsewhere. http://english.people.com.cn/200305/...2_116531.shtml says that the total Baath party membership is around 1.5 million members with only a few dozen thousand as full members. I've seen other estimates of around 40,000 full members. But just for the sake of argument, we'll go with the 1.5 million members. That means that 23,183,313 Iraqis are allies of the US in Iraq. Now, do you tink that is more or less than the number of US troops in Iraq? Now, just what IS that Baath party's army called? You see, you absolutely talking ignorant here, the S.V. was a REAL army. You are making one up from a political party. Hilarious! Are you sure this isn't your 8yo daughter using your acount? Steve |
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"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
... That means that 23,183,313 Iraqis are allies of the US in Iraq. Now, do you tink that is more or less than the number of US troops in Iraq? No, it doesn't! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:12:31 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message ... That means that 23,183,313 Iraqis are allies of the US in Iraq. Now, do you tink that is more or less than the number of US troops in Iraq? No, it doesn't! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sure it does, by basskisser's rules. Steve |
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"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
... On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:12:31 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message ... That means that 23,183,313 Iraqis are allies of the US in Iraq. Now, do you tink that is more or less than the number of US troops in Iraq? No, it doesn't! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sure it does, by basskisser's rules. Steve Like Vietnam, it means there are X number of people, some of whom may assist us and some of whom may assist the enemy. That's the ONLY thing you can derive from the numbers. Period. |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:24:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:12:31 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message ... That means that 23,183,313 Iraqis are allies of the US in Iraq. Now, do you tink that is more or less than the number of US troops in Iraq? No, it doesn't! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sure it does, by basskisser's rules. Like Vietnam, it means there are X number of people, some of whom may assist us and some of whom may assist the enemy. That's the ONLY thing you can derive from the numbers. Period. Exactly. Which is why I didn't want to include either of them in the first place. But if basskisser wants to include the Vietnamese then I get to include the Iraqis. Steve |
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